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Cosmic
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4/18/2008  9:18 AM
Here is the list of players that Isiah Thomas has acquired during his 4.75 seasons as General Manager of the New York Knicks


John Amaechi*
Trevor Ariza
Vin Baker
Renaldo Balkman
Steven Barber*
Matt Barnes
Andre Barrett*
Megke Bateer*
Jamison Brewer
Rodney Buford*
Jackie Butler
Kelvin Cato
Wilson Chandler
Milone Clark*
Mardy Collins
Jamal Crawford
Eddy Curry
Elton Brown*
Antonio Davis
Dan Dickau*
Steve Francis
Channing Frye
Otis George*
Penny Hardaway
Allan Houston*
Jermaine Jackson
Jerome James
Jared Jeffries
Dermarr Johnson
Fred Jones
Jared Jordan*
David Lee
Stephon Marbury
Paul Miller*
Nazr Mohammed
Randolph Morris
Tracy Murray*
Demetris Nichols*
Moochie Norris
Zach Randolph
Quentin Richardson
Nate Robinson
Jalen Rose
Malik Rose
Walker Russell Jr.*
Bruno Sundov
Maurice Taylor
Kurt Thomas (re-signed)
Tim Thomas
Cezary Trybanski
Nikoloz Tskitishvili*
Ime Udoka
Jerome Williams
Roderick Wilmont*
Qyntel Woods
Brent Wright*


* - Player barely played, camp/preseason invite that was cut, player that was waived after trade, ect...



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Here is a list of draft picks relinquished, acquired, and own picks used by Isiah Thomas in 4.75 years as GM of the New York Knicks:


Picks RELINQUISHED:

2004 first round pick (#16-Kirk Snyder)
2005 second round pick (#37-Ronny Turiaf)
2005 second round pick (#54-Dijon Thompson)*
2006 conditional first round pick (#2-LaMarcus Aldridge)
2006 second round pick (#32-Steve Novak)
2007 first round pick (#9-Joakim Noah)*
2007 second round pick (#38-Kyrylo Fesenko)
2008 second round pick (?-?)
2009 second round pick (?-?)
2010 conditional first round pick (lottery protected through 2010, well into the 20's per some sources) (?-?)

* - SWAPS (Thompson for Nate, Noah for Chandler)


Picks GAINED:

2005 first round pick (#21-Nate Robinson)*
2005 first round pick (top 21 protected 2005-09) (#30-David Lee)
2006 first round pick (top 10 protected) (2006 #29-Mardy Collins)
2006 first round pick (#20-Renaldo Balkman)
2007 first round pick (#23-Wilson Chandler)*

* - SWAPS (Thompson for Nate, Noah for Chandler)

OWN Picks USED:

2004 second round pick (#43-Trevor Ariza)
2005 first round pick (#8-Channing Frye)

Both players since traded.
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4/18/2008  9:41 AM
if you have the time do one of Billy King, I really hate he keeps on being mentioned as a possible candidate for the gm position
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4/18/2008  9:56 AM
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

if you have the time do one of Billy King, I really hate he keeps on being mentioned as a possible candidate for the gm position


Well, you can sift through if you choose, I just compiled it all from a site.


Here's Kings time frame in Philly:



 06/02/97  	 76ers  	 Billy King  	   	 hired as VP of basketball administration 
05/19/98  	76ers  	Billy King  	  	promoted to GM 
04/05/00  	76ers  	Billy King  	  	re-signed as GM to a multi-year contract extension 
05/26/03  	76ers  	Billy King  	  	hired as president (in addition to GM) 
12/04/07  	76ers  	  	Billy King  	fired as president & GM




Here has what has happened during that time frame:


billy king sixers moves

On the second page, most of the way down, you see where he was promoted to GM so I guess you can take it from there but as president he probably had a say in the first page and a half, no?


Also of note is Pat Croce also had a huge hand in helping to build that sixers team that went to the finals so I have a hard time giving Billy King full congrats on doing that - i don't know if he could have done it without Croce there.
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4/18/2008  10:25 AM
That took some time I'm sure but to dumb it down in his 4 1/2 yrs we don't have one bonafied starter, All-Star, Superstar, or Franchise player. In other words he didn't leave us a nice foundation.




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 04-18-2008 09:31 AM]
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4/18/2008  10:52 AM
Those picks he gave up only Aldridge hurts. At least I am telling that to myself so I don't comit harakiri.
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4/18/2008  11:11 AM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Those picks he gave up only Aldridge hurts. At least I am telling that to myself so I don't comit harakiri.

No... every first round pick he gave up definitely hurt because we could have controlled who we picked. We go over this time and time again. The players selected at those spots aren't necessarily the players we would have chosen or even needed at the time of choosing. Take for instance Kirk Snyder pick at 16, maybe if we actually had the pick we select Josh Smith, Kevin Martin, J.Smith, Jameer Nelson instead. Heck maybe we even move up a spot or two on draft day and select the number 15 pick Al Jefferson or Andris Biendrins at 11. We'll never know because we traded the pick well in advance. This is the primary way you have to look at giving up picks, not who was actually selected by other teams at those spots. Although you can use it a means of comparison still.
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4/18/2008  11:59 AM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Those picks he gave up only Aldridge hurts. At least I am telling that to myself so I don't comit harakiri.

Rudy Gay has me crying my eyes out. Its unfortunate that he's in such a crappy organization this guy should be styling and profiling in the NBA playoffs right now.
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4/18/2008  11:58 PM
I noticed something very striking about this guys moves/picks:

In all of those years, a decade and the well over a hundred, maybe close to two hundred moves, not once has he brought a true, bonnified superstar to a team. Andre and Webber were the closest he could get to that kind of player.

I find that very striking!

With that, I think I can safely say that we'll have another isiah on our hands, making nothing but peanut moves.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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