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Is Donnie Walsh Empowered To Get Tom Brokaw Back In The Front Row Or Is Cablevision That Poisonous?
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misterearl
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4/14/2008  9:03 PM
"I was in the front row for a while and then three rows back but not next year. I just think that they have failed their obligation to the city. I think that we have great sports franchises in New York. I think Fred Wilpon of the Mets and George Steinbrenner of the Yankees measure up and they bring to the community winning teams as best they can and make real statements about being supportive of the community. I don’t think that the Dolans have done that and I think the Garden has lost a lot of its luster as a result of their ownership and this is the first time that I have really said that out loud. But I feel very strongly about it and I think that it’s the least we can expect. They get these huge prices for people to sit in those seats, all kinds of tax advantages to owning the Garden and yet they operate as if they were a sovereign country and want to play only by their own rules. So I'm not very happy about that."

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4/14/2008  9:04 PM
Uh when did he say this and why?
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4/14/2008  9:19 PM
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Q. GKFv2 - Uh when did he say this....?

A. During a satellite radio interview over the weekend.

Q. GKFv2 - ...and why?

A. The Garden was more fun during the 1999 NBA Playoffs
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4/14/2008  9:27 PM
Why did this issue get brought up?
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4/14/2008  9:37 PM
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GKFv2 - Why did this issue get brought up?

A. Beacuse people can write on message boards until their fingers are numb, but when a person of influence such as Tom Brokaw (or anyone else in the expensive seats) complains publicly, the Dolan family is forced to listen.

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4/14/2008  9:55 PM
I think you misinterpreted my question.I meant why did the issue of the Dolans get brought up with Brokaw? Actually, a better question is how?
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4/14/2008  10:05 PM
Knicks were 9th in attendance in the league.

21 sell outs.

Pretty strong considering they won only 23 games.

It ain't special, but people are still going to see Isiah and his band clowns.
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4/14/2008  11:40 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Knicks were 9th in attendance in the league.

21 sell outs.

Pretty strong considering they won only 23 games.

It ain't special, but people are still going to see Isiah and his band clowns.

Is it really the ppl? I mean NYC is a melting pot. There are so many diff types of ppl goin to those games: the tourists, ppl who got tickets from their employers, someone just looking to do something other than dinner+movie, random people spending the night in the city and not wanting to go watch a broadway play, i mean there are probably like 0.01% of actual fans attending games at this point and thats being generous.

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4/15/2008  12:04 AM
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/2008/04/tom_brokaw_is_not_renewing_his.html


This was gutsy by Brokaw. I think the way the Knicks operate--as I said in another post--is their goal is to win 41 games and make the playoffs so they can do just enough to keep peak attendance levels and have the ability to raise prices. Obviously there are some smart posters here--some who probably work for the Knicks. I can tell from their views that this is the way the Knicks are. Would the NY Knicks ever risk their lottery pick on a Dirk Nowitski a Kevin Garnett a Kobe Bryant--no no no. They will always go for a Channing Frye type they will go for the player who they believe thinks that can help them the most. IMHO--the Knicks total lack of execution out of the draft has beena huge reason why they have failed--even back into the great years of the 90's--they could never make one draft pick really count other than Ward who was really a secondary player although valuable to the team.


I don't know if hiring a 67-68 year old man the right choice for the franchise. To me this is not a move that looks like the Knicks are interested in winning a championship because it will take 4-5 good years and perfect execution to get back. I think Donnie Walsh was hired to get them back to 41 games.
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4/15/2008  12:24 AM
Would the NY Knicks ever risk their lottery pick on a Dirk Nowitski a Kevin Garnett a Kobe Bryant--no no no. They will always go for a Channing Frye type they will go for the player who they believe thinks that can help them the most.

It's unfortunate that I Agree completely. Ah well. Anyway, if the Knicks drafted any of those three, their careers probably wouldn't be as special as they've been elsewhere. The Knicks suck at drafting and developing players... I'm not sure how much of it is ****ty scouting and how much of it is ****ty developing, but both come into play here.
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4/15/2008  12:27 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:


Would the NY Knicks ever risk their lottery pick on a Dirk Nowitski a Kevin Garnett a Kobe Bryant--no no no. They will always go for a Channing Frye type they will go for the player who they believe thinks that can help them the most. IMHO--the Knicks total lack of execution out of the draft has beena huge reason why they have failed--even back into the great years of the 90's--they could never make one draft pick really count other than Ward who was really a secondary player although valuable to the team.

Just curious Briggs.. who do you view as a 'safe pick' this year? Brook Lopez?
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Would the NY Knicks ever risk their lottery pick on a Dirk Nowitski a Kevin Garnett a Kobe Bryant--no no no. They will always go for a Channing Frye type they will go for the player who they believe thinks that can help them the most. IMHO--the Knicks total lack of execution out of the draft has beena huge reason why they have failed--even back into the great years of the 90's--they could never make one draft pick really count other than Ward who was really a secondary player although valuable to the team.

Just curious Briggs.. who do you view as a 'safe pick' this year? Brook Lopez?

Hopefully our safe pick is Derrick Rose or Michael Beasley. The less this organization has to think about anything --the better. I think that the atmosphere that Dolan has created stifles the ambition of the personnel staff.
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4/15/2008  12:40 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/2008/04/tom_brokaw_is_not_renewing_his.html


This was gutsy by Brokaw. I think the way the Knicks operate--as I said in another post--is their goal is to win 41 games and make the playoffs so they can do just enough to keep peak attendance levels and have the ability to raise prices. Obviously there are some smart posters here--some who probably work for the Knicks. I can tell from their views that this is the way the Knicks are. Would the NY Knicks ever risk their lottery pick on a Dirk Nowitski a Kevin Garnett a Kobe Bryant--no no no. They will always go for a Channing Frye type they will go for the player who they believe thinks that can help them the most. IMHO--the Knicks total lack of execution out of the draft has beena huge reason why they have failed--even back into the great years of the 90's--they could never make one draft pick really count other than Ward who was really a secondary player although valuable to the team.


I don't know if hiring a 67-68 year old man the right choice for the franchise. To me this is not a move that looks like the Knicks are interested in winning a championship because it will take 4-5 good years and perfect execution to get back. I think Donnie Walsh was hired to get them back to 41 games.

Seems like there is definately a pattern there, but knicks were never in the lottery back in the 90ies, after getting Ewing so we are only judging from recent years.

I don't know if i can agree with you on DW tho. Yeah he is old, but he is still sharp. He has a huge amount of experience. He's made some franchise type of draft picks. The one of the definate things he might be after now is perfecting his ways in order to get the Final Reward.

I definately want to see him at work, as a matter of fact, as a fan i can't wait

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4/15/2008  12:45 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
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Would the NY Knicks ever risk their lottery pick on a Dirk Nowitski a Kevin Garnett a Kobe Bryant--no no no. They will always go for a Channing Frye type they will go for the player who they believe thinks that can help them the most. IMHO--the Knicks total lack of execution out of the draft has beena huge reason why they have failed--even back into the great years of the 90's--they could never make one draft pick really count other than Ward who was really a secondary player although valuable to the team.

Just curious Briggs.. who do you view as a 'safe pick' this year? Brook Lopez?

Hopefully our safe pick is Derrick Rose or Michael Beasley. The less this organization has to think about anything --the better. I think that the atmosphere that Dolan has created stifles the ambition of the personnel staff.

While I definitely agree with that sentiment, the only 2 safe picks for anyone is Rose/Beasely but I'm talking about in terms of taking a guy because you're pretty sure what you're going to get from him rather than taking a chance on a guy who has potential but could be a bust. You know how we passed up Bynum for Frye, in all of Isiah's wisdom...

Whose that guy this year?
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Would the NY Knicks ever risk their lottery pick on a Dirk Nowitski a Kevin Garnett a Kobe Bryant--no no no. They will always go for a Channing Frye type they will go for the player who they believe thinks that can help them the most. IMHO--the Knicks total lack of execution out of the draft has beena huge reason why they have failed--even back into the great years of the 90's--they could never make one draft pick really count other than Ward who was really a secondary player although valuable to the team.

Just curious Briggs.. who do you view as a 'safe pick' this year? Brook Lopez?

Hopefully our safe pick is Derrick Rose or Michael Beasley. The less this organization has to think about anything --the better. I think that the atmosphere that Dolan has created stifles the ambition of the personnel staff.

While I definitely agree with that sentiment, the only 2 safe picks for anyone is Rose/Beasely but I'm talking about in terms of taking a guy because you're pretty sure what you're going to get from him rather than taking a chance on a guy who has potential but could be a bust. You know how we passed up Bynum for Frye, in all of Isiah's wisdom...

Whose that guy this year?

I think we have to find out where we actually pick before we can truly answer that--there is a player like that in every tier--the player who may be more advanced than other players who are not physically developed in game or body yet possess top 3 ceilings.
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4/15/2008  1:02 AM
briggs couldnt agree more, what can we do though other than hope for absolute ruin of the dolan fortune/family, as horrible as that may be.
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4/15/2008  3:11 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/2008/04/tom_brokaw_is_not_renewing_his.html


This was gutsy by Brokaw. I think the way the Knicks operate--as I said in another post--is their goal is to win 41 games and make the playoffs so they can do just enough to keep peak attendance levels and have the ability to raise prices. Obviously there are some smart posters here--some who probably work for the Knicks. I can tell from their views that this is the way the Knicks are. Would the NY Knicks ever risk their lottery pick on a Dirk Nowitski a Kevin Garnett a Kobe Bryant--no no no. They will always go for a Channing Frye type they will go for the player who they believe thinks that can help them the most. IMHO--the Knicks total lack of execution out of the draft has beena huge reason why they have failed--even back into the great years of the 90's--they could never make one draft pick really count other than Ward who was really a secondary player although valuable to the team.


I don't know if hiring a 67-68 year old man the right choice for the franchise. To me this is not a move that looks like the Knicks are interested in winning a championship because it will take 4-5 good years and perfect execution to get back. I think Donnie Walsh was hired to get them back to 41 games.

I dont know how on earth you are drawing these conclusions based on the hire of Donnie Walsh. Quite honestly, and I only say this because you know better, this is the kind of dart-throwing that gives the internet its rep as a petri-dish of short-sighted, and over baked criticism from self-important blowhards. Walsh is coming here with strong credentials and you are throwing him under the bus before he even has a chance?? Sad.

You're a fairly knowledgeable fan on the internet. You're not Jerry West, fam (who BTW, is old as hell himself). Walsh knows more than you --- hate to break it to ya.
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4/15/2008  8:55 AM
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sebstar - The passage from briggs post, "Obviously there are some smart posters here - some who probably work for the Knicks." is indicative of how quickly divergent opinion is typecast.

we have sadly entered the era where actual content and context is a distant third cousin to the over-baked discussion of that content. C'mon, if you really wanted to be informed why would anyone watch Fox and Friends?

All that matters is Donnie Walsh is in place as the executive (hopefully) in charge of my beloved Knicks. As you are a student of the knicks you already know the job description has been a political tennis ball since the days of Gulf+Western. The most critical decision is not only on General Manager, but the sequence of that hire with relation to head coach.

This is not a job for the faint of heart.

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