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NBA - toughest league to undo mistakes
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purple012870
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4/10/2008  2:37 PM
MLB = no cap, teams if they have financial means, they can overcome mistakes
NFL = no guaranteed contracts, ability to amortize signing bonus over multiple years

The NFL has the best salary. You don't earn your salary, you're gone. The NBA makes it awfully hard for bad franchises to survive mistakes. Matter of fact, in the case of the Knicks, not only haven't we been able to sign a significant FA since Allan Houston, but we're 3 years away from the next FA. I realize the Knicks made their bed here, but this is too harsh. I would be in favor of allowing teams to cut a player, pay the salary, incur some sort of salary cap penalty, but not be in a perm-a-cap-hell situation.
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purple012870
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4/10/2008  2:38 PM
I meant, the NFL has the best salary situation.
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4/10/2008  3:13 PM
Agreed. I've never been a fan of the current system. The trade restrictions are ridiculous too.
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4/10/2008  3:25 PM
Preaching to the choir.
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4/10/2008  3:46 PM
Mark Cuban on his blog said there should be a minimum age-22- for the benefit of the league- guys are somehow more mature - I would offer him a very mature Starbury who acts like he's a 3 year old.

But- if you want to fix the big problem with the league, you would do away with some level of guaranteed contracts.

Guys like Marbury that get maxed out and then act like prima donnas- that is what is doing the league in - not HS guys looking to cash in and play ball because god gave them a gift and it wasn't to be a book worm.

That said- most teams have done a good job managing their cap/roster.

BUT, Isiah & Dolan helped a LOT of teams out, big time.
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4/10/2008  4:06 PM
It is no mistake why the NFL is the premier league in all of sports.. they get it right with the salaries too... what they do, by not guaranteeing deals for long periods of time and giving huge signing bonuses is basically paying the player, the most money for the years, they feel he will be at his best, or when you will get the most out of him.. Yes you take a chance with the huge signing bonus look at michael vick, but how many teams have gotten burned by the likes of grant hill? signs long term, huge guaranteed deal and is injured 85% of his contract.....

I say, the NBA should give signing bounuses and not guarantee deals longer than 3 years with a TEAM option for 2 years, each year being picked up 1 at a time, at the teams discretion...
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4/10/2008  4:19 PM
I believe max contracts under the new CBA for free agents is 4 years, which is down from 6 so that's at least a good thing.
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4/10/2008  4:21 PM

Rules should be changed to help the knicks? Very few teams go over the cap so they are not all stupid.

I think the cap rule is excellent, but the lenght of contracts is crazy. NBA has shortend it last time out.

Cap was put in place to protect mid market teams from losing player like Orlando did with Shaq and left with nothing. At least if a player leaves a team it opens up a salary slot for another looking for a pay day.

It ain't perfect, but I thinks its better than Baseball.

Currently there are some teams that will never ever win in Baseball because they won't spend to even keep the good kids they keep developing.

So In a Way the NBA gets it right, and there are flaws.

Seems that when you are a fan of the knicks, and you have Tim Thomas, Eddy, Stephon, Francis and Jerome it seems we are getting duped over and over by the wrong type of player with the wrong type of contract!

I think Morons like Isiah is more of the problem then the rules.

The NFL gets it right but the one thing is that its very cap strict and its very hard to keep teams together. THe roster turns over so much it becomes hard for the causual fan to identify with the players.

Parity is best served this way and thats why you have so many teams ebbing and flowing every few years. NFL is a team league not the players league.

If you had this in the NBA you'd have a lot of turn over year to year.

That result may be mixed.

Good topic, you dig a hole like our morons did its hard to craw out from under.

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4/10/2008  4:52 PM
The best bet would be to allow front load renegotiations. Teams will still have to pay for there mistakes. But it allows them to recover from it quicker. Rather than having to wait out the length of a contract. Guys like Jerome James & Brian Cardinal who get full mid levels and then offer absolutely nothing to the team could get there money earlier and the team can then cut them next season and only have the remaining balance count against the cap.
They should allow the renegotiation for frontloading. In the end the player will still get the money he signed his contract for. This will give teams more flexebility. They will be able to pay the players they are trying to get rid of earlier. They should have it as a rule though that the player must *at least* make 1 mil each yr after, When a team frontloads.

Example Darius Miles has 2 yrs 18mil left on his contract. 08-09 He is set to make 9mil. 09-10 he is set to make 9mil. Portland would then be able to offer Miles 17mil for 08-09 and 1mil in 09-10. This allows them to pay him earlier and gain flexability from his contract earlier. I think it would be a really good idea.

Someone like Randolph. We would be able to renegotiate to pay him like 22mil in 08-09. 22mil in 09-10 and 4mil in 10/11.
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4/10/2008  4:54 PM
i say a team should be allowed to waive a player every other year, have the dollars come off the cap but the team is still on the hook for the contract.
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4/10/2008  5:28 PM

Dj, Its a good idea but what it does is reduce the tax.

Without it you'd have teams doing it and it would increase contract values even worse.

Remember, the cap is a form of revenue shareing. The league does well, the cap goes up.

With no cap as you suggest, Knicks could afford to bury the mistakes while milwaukee could not.

Front loading actually adds value to the players contract (time value of money!) so it costs the owners money.

I like "special knick rules" as much as the next guy, but the best way to undo this is by letting contracts just expire and have a plan!

We don't need a Lebron starphuch plan. Bad teams like ours should have had their own draft picks or traded them for good value.

But Isiah had a had his hard on for Eddy and here we are.
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