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3/27/2008  9:08 AM


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/03/27/2008-03-27_james_dolans_preference_is_to_keep_isiah.html


James Dolan's 'preference' is to keep Isiah Thomas as Knicks coach

James Dolan will not stand in the way of Donnie Walsh removing Isiah Thomas as the Knicks' head coach, according to a team source, but Dolan has made it clear that his "preference" is to keep Thomas on the sidelines.

As absurd as it may sound, Dolan is not prepared to completely sever ties with Thomas, whose record as an executive and head coach is among the worst in franchise history. The Knicks have not had a winning season with Thomas in charge and he was also was at the center of an embarrassing sexual harassment case that saw a jury rule in favor of a former Madison Square Garden female executive.

"There isn't a basketball executive alive who would keep Isiah as head coach, but Jim is telling whoever he interviews, 'I would prefer to keep Isiah but you do what you have to do,'" said the source, who is close to Dolan, the Garden chairman. "If Isiah isn't the coach, Jim still wants him to stay in the organization in some capacity."

Even one Knicks player said Wednesday that it's time for Thomas to go.

"If they're going to keep him here, you can't keep him as the coach," said the player, before the Knicks held on to beat the woeful Miami Heat, 103-96 in overtime, Wedmesday night. "That won't work. He can't come back and coach the team."

The Knicks have a handshake agreement with Walsh, the former Indiana Pacers CEO, to run the basketball operation. The two sides are working to finalize the deal.

Dolan's presence, however, could complicate negotiations. Dolan's business relationships with Dave Checketts, Jeff Van Gundy, Lenny Wilkens, Marv Albert and Larry Brown did not end well, and Walsh knows all five. If Walsh reaches out to Brown, that could also work against the Knicks.

Brown was fired after one season as head coach, and although he feels betrayed by Thomas, Brown blames Dolan for making the last three months of his Knicks career miserable. Although Dolan knew that he was preparing to fire Brown, he still required Brown to attend workouts for prospective draft picks.

Dolan then refused to pay Brown and used a clause in Brown's contract that made NBA commissioner David Stern an arbitrator in the dispute. Brown felt that Dolan's intention was not only to keep from paying him but to damage his reputation as well.

That Dolan would like to retain Thomas in some capacity may raise red flags in Walsh's camp. Ever since Dolan took a more active role in the day-to-day operations of the club, the Knicks have become a laughingstock NBA franchise.

Wednesday night's victory upped Thomas' record to 43-100 in two seasons as Knicks head coach. His team is regarded as one of the least prepared and worst conditioned in the NBA.

Meanwhile, Thomas has essentially stopped working. He canceled practice on Tuesday and then conducted an 18-minute game-day shoot-around yesterday. He also continued his habit of showing up later than normal for games - which he has done more than a dozen times - blaming it on traffic.Yet when Thomas finally arrived last night, he told reporters, "I love the game. I love being around it."

Thomas' questionable work ethic is rubbing off on his players. While the Heat had eight players going through drills 90 minutes before tip-off, the Knicks' end of the court was vacant. Several players, including Malik Rose, David Lee and Mardy Collins, went through pregame drills, but the contrast was startling.

If Walsh agrees to run the Knicks, he likely will make a coaching change, and the most likely candidates are former Knick Mark Jackson, former Bulls coach Scott Skiles and current Celtics assistant Tom Thibodeau.

But first he will have to do something that Dolan, for whatever reason, is reluctant to do: fire Thomas. The Daily News reported last month that the Knicks spoke to former Nets assistant GM Kiki Vandeweghe and that Dolan expressed a desire to keep Thomas on the bench at that time, too. Both Vandeweghe and the Knicks have denied talking.


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3/27/2008  9:23 AM
NYK3 - you and Flip Bondy can go have a beer

The critical position is General Manager.

Isiah gets Frank Layden's spot
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3/27/2008  9:43 AM
Isiah doesn't have a clue what to do about a gameplan. He's gotta go......its not about having a guy coaching that can inspire or relate......Knicks missed the boat on Rick Adelman. Knicks need that type of coach.....a guy that knows what he is doing.
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3/27/2008  9:52 AM
I can honestly say off the top of me head I can not think of a more clueless guy to have be in charge of ANY aspect of your team than isiah.

I wish Dolan would just make him a regular scout. I am so full of spite for zeke. Make him sit amongst his peers earning his $6 mil or whatever where everyone knows he could't handle the job. Make him the most overpaid scout there is. Everyone will know it's not because of his merit.
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3/27/2008  9:55 AM
As suspected the guy isn't even trying as hasn't been for a long time yet Dolan still wants him employed. But he ran LB off because he talked through the media about the Trash Roster.? Dolan needs to be Kidnapped.
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3/27/2008  9:58 AM
Posted by misterearl:

NYK3 - you and Flip Bondy can go have a beer

The critical position is General Manager.

Isiah gets Frank Layden's spot

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Even one Knicks player said Wednesday that it's time for Thomas to go.

"If they're going to keep him here, you can't keep him as the coach," said the player, before the Knicks held on to beat the woeful Miami Heat, 103-96 in overtime, Wedmesday night. "That won't work. He can't come back and coach the team."
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3/27/2008  10:00 AM
Wednesday night's victory upped Thomas' record to 43-100 in two seasons as Knicks head coach. His team is regarded as one of the least prepared and worst conditioned in the NBA.
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3/27/2008  10:09 AM
Hopefully, Walsh "does what he has to do." and mop and rings Isiah out of this organization.
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3/27/2008  10:10 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by misterearl:

NYK3 - you and Flip Bondy can go have a beer

The critical position is General Manager.

Isiah gets Frank Layden's spot

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Even one Knicks player said Wednesday that it's time for Thomas to go.

"If they're going to keep him here, you can't keep him as the coach," said the player, before the Knicks held on to beat the woeful Miami Heat, 103-96 in overtime, Wedmesday night. "That won't work. He can't come back and coach the team."

I bet that player was Malik Rose. In fact I'm certain.
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3/27/2008  10:11 AM
I think Dolan should keep Isiah as GM, and make Donnie Walsh the coach.
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3/27/2008  10:22 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:

I think Dolan should keep Isiah as GM, and make Donnie Walsh the coach.

Lmao!

What he shoulda did was hire his boy bill laimbeer instead of Larry Brown.......he shoulda did a lot of stuff. Isiah is a dick bro. He just needs to go back to Chicago.
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3/27/2008  10:25 AM
If Walsh keeps Isiah as coach, he is going to start off without my respect, and I will expect nothing different from him.

Isiah did a decent job last year of being a coach. He wasn't great, but certainly better than this year.

We need a clean start and he has to go.
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3/27/2008  10:33 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Lmao!

What he shoulda did was hire his boy bill laimbeer instead of Larry Brown.......he shoulda did a lot of stuff. Isiah is a dick bro. He just needs to go back to Chicago.

Isiah's from Chicago? I didn't know that. Has he ever mentioned he was from Chicago before?

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3/27/2008  10:34 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

As suspected the guy isn't even trying as hasn't been for a long time yet Dolan still wants him employed. But he ran LB off because he talked through the media about the Trash Roster.? Dolan needs to be Kidnapped.


I know you say that in jest, but I am dead friggin serious.. I wish someone would kidnap this jackass....
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3/27/2008  10:36 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by TrueBlue:

As suspected the guy isn't even trying as hasn't been for a long time yet Dolan still wants him employed. But he ran LB off because he talked through the media about the Trash Roster.? Dolan needs to be Kidnapped.


I know you say that in jest, but I am dead friggin serious.. I wish someone would kidnap this jackass....

that- or his helicopter he rides to and from work goes down in the LI Sound with one missing, presumed dead.
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3/27/2008  10:46 AM
I really don't think Walsh will keep Isiah. It says that Dolan "prefers Isiah is kept but won't stand in the way of firing him." Sounds to me like Jimmy D just doesn't want to be the one to fire Isiah. Walsh will NOT want Isiah as coach and he will be gone.
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3/27/2008  10:56 AM
How do you know nyk4ever? Walsh has praised Isiah frequently as has dumbass Jermaine O'Neal who freaking loves Isiah. It's the one reason I have never wanted JO.
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3/27/2008  11:01 AM
James Dolan is going to keep Isiah around like Donald Stirling still has Elgin Baylor in charge. James Dolan is looking to overtake everyone for the worst owner in sports history.
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3/27/2008  11:13 AM
This is bad bad bad. Keeping Isiah in any capacity next year is just fodder to continue being the laughingstock of the league, an NBA flagship franchise no less. I don't know how much more stupid this can get. Dolan is just amazing.
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3/27/2008  12:26 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

How do you know nyk4ever? Walsh has praised Isiah frequently as has dumbass Jermaine O'Neal who freaking loves Isiah. It's the one reason I have never wanted JO.

I don't think it matters. Walsh would know that if he came into this situation and didn't get rid of Isiah that he would be perceived as a corporate lackey who is just towing the corporate line. Walsh came here to do things HIS way and HIS way only, he wouldn't have accepted the job otherwise.
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So Isiah might be sticking around after all!?!?!?!?!?!?

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