[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Walsh going back to Pacers
Author Thread
GKFv2
Posts: 26752
Alba Posts: 114
Joined: 1/16/2007
Member: #1259
USA
3/23/2008  4:48 AM
James Dolan better have a Plan B.

Indiana Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh, who met with Dolan less than two weeks ago about replacing Knicks president Isiah Thomas, is leaning toward remaining with the Pacers, according to a team source. Walsh had an eight-hour meeting on Friday with the Pacers' co-owners, Herbert and Melvin Simon, and could have a deal announced by the end of the week.

The only sticking point concerns the future of Pacers president Larry Bird, who will have to hand control of the day-to-day operations back to Walsh. The Simon brothers are not sure whether to keep Bird in a different role or just sever ties with the Indiana legend. There are whispers that Bird's younger brother, who holds the title of premium services manager with the Pacers, already has resigned.

"Barring something crazy happening, Donnie is staying," the source said. "The players all got a sense on Friday that Donnie would be around."

Walsh was unavailable for comment yesterday. The Bronx native, who built the Pacers into a contender throughout the '90s, has established roots in the Hoosier State and was committed to returning the franchise to prominence. The Pacers have been one of the NBA's worst teams on and off the court over the last four years, starting with the melee in the stands with fans in Auburn Hills, Mich.

Where Dolan, the Garden chairman, turns now is anyone's guess. The Daily News reported last month that the Knicks had engaged in preliminary talks with Nets assistant GM Kiki Vandeweghe. Both sides denied talking.

With Walsh apparently out of the picture, former Lakers GM Jerry West could be in the Knicks' plans. Former Phoenix owner Jerry Colangelo wants the job, while former Knicks president Ernie Grunfeld, now with Washington, also could emerge as a candidate.

Nuggets VP of basketball operations Mark Warkentien and former Sixers GM Billy King could enter the picture. Also, former Knick players-turned-TV analysts Greg Anthony and Mark Jackson also would be under consideration.

The news of Walsh's probable return came on a night when Thomas and the Knicks turned 50 ... as in losses. The Knicks lost, 114-93, to the Timberwolves in Minneapolis Saturday night to fall to 19-50, including 11 losses in their last 12 games.

In two years, Thomas has 99 losses and is one loss away from becoming the second-fastest coach in franchise history to post 100. Eddie Donovan ranks first with 194. "Sometimes you stay in the business long enough, you're going to have a really bad year," Thomas said before last night's game. "Look at Doc (Rivers) and Nate McMillan last year. They had some pretty tough years and they persevered and they got through it. That's what I intend to do."

The Knicks had just 10 players in uniform, including Zach Randolph, who was held out for the second straight game as the Knicks focused on improving their draft position. Nate Robinson was sidelined with a sprained right knee and Quentin Richardson did not travel for personal reasons.

For the second straight game, the Knicks gave up 69 first-half points and were playing from behind. Ryan Gomes led the T-Wolves with 26 points and Malik Rose led the Knicks with 20.

Thomas continues to drop hints that he will return next season even though Dolan's actions indicate that he wants to make a change at the top. As it turns out, Walsh gave Thomas his first head coaching job and in three seasons with the Pacers, Thomas went 131-115 and reached the playoffs all three years. But with the Knicks, Thomas has a losing record as team president and his record as head coach is even worse. Last night, he did not seem thrilled as reporters peppered him with questions about losing 50 games.

"I've won a lot," Thomas said. "If you add up my ... if you want to just take two years, that's fine. But if you add up the body of work, I've definitely won more than I've lost. You have your share of losses. I've been fortunate enough to win a couple of championships along the way and the price you pay sometimes is you have some tough years."

Thomas won two titles as a Hall of Fame point guard for the Pistons but his post-playing career has been defined by losing. Thomas has a losing record as an executive with Toronto and New York and his career coaching record is 31 games under .500.

The Knicks have lost 50 or more games for the second time in three years and for the third time this decade. Prior to the 2001-02 season, the Knicks hadn't lost as many as 50 games since 1986-87.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
AUTOADVERT
knicksbabyyeah
Posts: 21472
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 8/19/2001
Member: #100
Netherlands
3/23/2008  11:28 AM
Grunfeld an option too? Nice.

I'd like one of the Colangelo's the most of all, Grunfeld 3rd. West didn't do much in Memphis and in LA he made moves you cannot do anymore due to collective bargaining agreement changes. Or did you think him stealing Shaq from Orlando was still allowed these days?
Allanfan20
Posts: 35947
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
3/23/2008  11:40 AM
No thanks to Grunfield. His drafting has been not good to say the least, and we need to start building this team through good drafting and smart decision making. Grunfield has the smart decision making part, but when he was with NY, drafting was a different story.

Jerry West is too old for this type of job. No thanks to him. Quite possibly the same for Colangelo.

I wanna see if Greg Anthony can anything good.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
Panos
Posts: 30584
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 1/6/2004
Member: #520
3/23/2008  11:47 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

No thanks to Grunfield. His drafting has been not good to say the least, and we need to start building this team through good drafting and smart decision making. Grunfield has the smart decision making part, but when he was with NY, drafting was a different story.

Jerry West is too old for this type of job. No thanks to him. Quite possibly the same for Colangelo.

I wanna see if Greg Anthony can anything good.


No offense, Allanfan, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
No thanks to Coangelo and West, bring on Greg Anthony?! Seriously?
Now that's funny.
GoNyGoNyGo
Posts: 23559
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/29/2003
Member: #411
USA
3/23/2008  8:21 PM
thank god. Do not want Walsh. I am in for Colangelo, West or Kiki...in that order.
GKFv2
Posts: 26752
Alba Posts: 114
Joined: 1/16/2007
Member: #1259
USA
3/23/2008  8:42 PM
Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

thank god. Do not want Walsh. I am in for Colangelo, West or Kiki...in that order.

We aren't getting any of these guys. Isiah is coming back.

And even if Isiah wasn't coming back, Colangelo and West would never seriously consider working here.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 03-23-2008 8:43 PM]
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
Allanfan20
Posts: 35947
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
3/24/2008  1:34 AM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by Allanfan20:

No thanks to Grunfield. His drafting has been not good to say the least, and we need to start building this team through good drafting and smart decision making. Grunfield has the smart decision making part, but when he was with NY, drafting was a different story.

Jerry West is too old for this type of job. No thanks to him. Quite possibly the same for Colangelo.

I wanna see if Greg Anthony can anything good.


No offense, Allanfan, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
No thanks to Coangelo and West, bring on Greg Anthony?! Seriously?
Now that's funny.

Maybe I was exxagerating, but I just say that b/c they are like 2 million years old. They probably know King Tut.

In all seriousness, I would welcome Colangelo with open arms. He's kind of old though and that to me is kind of an issue.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
BlacKat
Posts: 20212
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/1/2008
Member: #1795
USA
3/24/2008  1:48 AM
John Thompson = President

John Thompson III = Head Coach

Mark Jackson = Assistant Coach

Patrick Ewing = Assistant Coach

John Starks = Assistant Coach
When opportunity knocks, make sure you open the door !!!
Bippity10
Posts: 13999
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/26/2004
Member: #574
3/24/2008  12:33 PM
Isiah will be here. There is a warning in there somewhere.
I just hope that people will like me
martin
Posts: 80162
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
3/24/2008  12:38 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

Isiah will be here. There is a warning in there somewhere.

is the warning in the first or second sentence?
Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
arkrud
Posts: 32217
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 8/31/2005
Member: #995
USA
3/24/2008  12:42 PM
Posted by BlacKat:

John Thompson = President

John Thompson III = Head Coach

Mark Jackson = Assistant Coach

Patrick Ewing = Assistant Coach

John Starks = Assistant Coach

Why this was blocked?
And who is John Thompson III?

[Edited by - arkrud on 03-24-2008 12:43 PM]
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
Bippity10
Posts: 13999
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/26/2004
Member: #574
3/24/2008  12:45 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Bippity10:

Isiah will be here. There is a warning in there somewhere.

is the warning in the first or second sentence?

Both.

My insider knowledge is unmatched and I should brag about it more.
I just hope that people will like me
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34080
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127

3/24/2008  2:37 PM
I like that West gets bumped up the list... I think he and Colangelo would be the most likely to accept the job, because their legacies are already cemented. Re-floating this sunk ship would propel them even further up the list of legendary GMs. I don't like that the options of qualified candidates have diminished though. That sucks.
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
Walsh going back to Pacers

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy