The NFL is the only league where fans from (ANY) city has a chance to win it all in any given yr.

the west has been dominant for years now micheal jordan has covered that up but the knicks indy and miami could never beat the western unless you believed in eastern media reports.

Posted by ARES:

the west has been dominant for years now micheal jordan has covered that up but the knicks indy and miami could never beat the western unless you believed in eastern media reports.

c'mon man. Dallas was making runs at the record for least wins in a season season in and season out. Portland was probably the DUMBEST team I ever saw, even with all their talent (They should've won at least one title), LA was being lead by people like Sedale Threatt (I think that was his name) and had bad coach after bad coach.

Houston was pretty damned good and, of course, won those back-to-backs. So was SA. Sacrmanento? Up and coming, but not yet a threat. Denver? get real. Phoenix lost it once KJ went down and Barkley left, but even before that I don't think they were a REAL threat. Seattle? Always one step behind. Almost there, but not quite. Who? Clippers, Golden State (Run TMC??), Minny???

Oh, there's Utah. The little team that could, yet never actually did.

i aint mad New yorkers feel like they actually had a champion ship team.

but no one else feels like that about those knicks team. especially the players.

they knew the knicks were warriors they would fight to the end. but knew at the end of the day the knicks didn't have enough talent and couldn't score to win a championship.

the knicks of the 90's remind me a lot of the 2003 piston team.

Bottom line... the good teams get the cream of the crop... sometimes at bargain rates like the Lakers enjoyed this year.

The bad teams can't lure anyone and are often faced with the prospect of overpaying to re-sign their own players or losing them to a contender for nothing... thus, they overpay and dig themselves into a deeper hole.

One of the problems of the system I brought up a few days ago. A GM of a mid to bad team has to ask himself this question... if I re-sign this player, would I be able to trade him down the road... if he can't (with the NBA CAP situation) ... he's making a mistake... a la Allan Houston.

[Edited by - Pike on 07/11/2003 10:30:36]

i agree that it is all in cycles. though i think the gap is MUCH larger than i have ever seen it in my 20 years of watching basketball. but the scale will tip again in five years when young players like james, milicic, kwame brown, butler and bosh mature ( unless there is another free agent exodus). i think indy could be a power house team if they make the right moves ( like a better coach). detroit, orlando, and miami could all be legit champioship contenders in the next five years because they either have great young players or assets to improve greatly. but the next few years will be ugly and it could damage the sport especially with the weak ratings the past few years for the finals. unless a eastern team makes a MAJOR move the east will be gridlocked in this mediocrity for a few years.

as far as when the east dominated, i thought the eastern teams were significantly better in the late 80's and early 90's. remember, detroit and chicago won championships in those years. during that period, boston , cleveland ( price and daugherty were devastating)and new york ( if the 91-92 knicks got passed chicago, they would have kicked everyone's ass with x-men and oak patrolling the lane)could have easily won championships. the big factor was defense. the great temas in the west like portland, phoenix and la played either so so defense or matador defense. they wanted to outgun their opponent. that is why someone like doug moe( remember that name?) was successfull with denver but came over to the east with philly and got his ass kicked. houston and sa won because they played great defense in the mid to late 90's. but i thought during that time the scale was even. the knicks could have easily won in 94 but bad decisions were made. so it is not " east coast" bias. it is pure facts.

i think it works

i don't think that is so, teams are getting better, houston phoenix, golden state damn it even memphis, all these team are in the west.

i know your points on strong and weak but the nets celtics knicks and buck are standing still or getting worst. and denver a team that is not strong is getting better. so it's definately a west east thing

Posted by ARES:

i don't think that is so, teams are getting better, houston phoenix, golden state damn it even memphis, all these team are in the west.

i know your points on strong and weak but the nets celtics knicks and buck are standing still or getting worst. and denver a team that is not strong is getting better. so it's definately a west east thing

Houston, Phoenix, Golden State and Memphis were in the bottom and lucked out in the lottery.

Nets got good due to draft picks and Thorn.

Knicks haven't been to the lottery till the last 2 years and we get late lottery picks at that. Plus we have Layden.

Bucks have always been good enough to stay status quo.

To get better in the NBA you need to hit rock bottom like Houston, San Antonio, Lakers, Sacramento and the like.

If you keep fighting for the 5th to 8th spot in the playoffs then you are going nowhere fast.