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EnySpree
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3/19/2008  6:09 PM
Can anybody explain this experience.....full monty please.
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3/19/2008  6:11 PM
After you explain obama first. And I don't want to hear about the hope things. I want real experience.
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3/19/2008  6:14 PM
Posted by 4949:

After you explain obama first. And I don't want to hear about the hope things. I want real experience.

Typical......

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3/19/2008  6:19 PM
In my opinion she is scary in her leanings towards the far left.

If Obama did not have wife/preacher who possibly hate my people, I would have made up my mind about voting for him by now.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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3/19/2008  6:24 PM
Posted by simrud:

In my opinion she is scary in her leanings towards the far left.

Well I'll tell you man. Obama in chicago, is described as the most liberal of all the candidates. Now whether he is or not, you have to know that, that' scares a lot of folks to.
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3/19/2008  6:25 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by 4949:

After you explain obama first. And I don't want to hear about the hope things. I want real experience.

Typical......

Hey, at least we can laugh about it.
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3/19/2008  6:27 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by 4949:

After you explain obama first. And I don't want to hear about the hope things. I want real experience.

Typical......


I think I hear crickets.... For the life of me I don't understand why Obama's camp or really any of the other Democratic candidates never challenged Clinton on her experience claim.
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3/19/2008  6:28 PM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton got to work on health care reform within days of her arrival at the White House as first lady in 1993, newly released documents show.

The National Archives on Wednesday released 11,000 pages of Hillary Clinton's schedule as first lady.

Her first meeting on the subject came on January 23, 1993, only three days after her husband Bill Clinton's inauguration as president, and dozens of related events followed.

Despite her efforts, the Clinton health care reform foundered in Congress.

The National Archives on Wednesday released more than 11,000 pages of Sen. Hillary Clinton's schedule when she was first lady.

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign pushed for the documents' release, arguing that their review is necessary to make a full evaluation of Clinton's experience as first lady.

The documents cover nearly 2,900 days. An additional 27 days will be posted in the near future, the archives said.

The documents are among those at the center of a legal battle between the archives and Judicial Watch, a conservative public interest group that has long urged a speedier release of files from the Clinton White House years.

Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, said the trove of documents "shows she was a co-president," revealing an "extraordinary extent of meetings for an unelected official to be meeting with cabinet officials."

[Edited by - mythfaze on 03-19-2008 6:28 PM]
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Posted by mythfaze:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton got to work on health care reform within days of her arrival at the White House as first lady in 1993, newly released documents show.

The National Archives on Wednesday released 11,000 pages of Hillary Clinton's schedule as first lady.

Her first meeting on the subject came on January 23, 1993, only three days after her husband Bill Clinton's inauguration as president, and dozens of related events followed.

Despite her efforts, the Clinton health care reform foundered in Congress.

The National Archives on Wednesday released more than 11,000 pages of Sen. Hillary Clinton's schedule when she was first lady.

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign pushed for the documents' release, arguing that their review is necessary to make a full evaluation of Clinton's experience as first lady.

The documents cover nearly 2,900 days. An additional 27 days will be posted in the near future, the archives said.

The documents are among those at the center of a legal battle between the archives and Judicial Watch, a conservative public interest group that has long urged a speedier release of files from the Clinton White House years.

Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, said the trove of documents "shows she was a co-president," revealing an "extraordinary extent of meetings for an unelected official to be meeting with cabinet officials."

[Edited by - mythfaze on 03-19-2008 6:28 PM]


Hilary is NO Eleanor Roosevelt! Co-President does anyone else have a problem with someone who is not an elected official or an bonafide member of the President's candidate serving a "Co-President"?
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3/19/2008  6:39 PM
I'm a democrat and I'm voting for the democratic nominee.

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3/19/2008  6:40 PM
I'm a registered republican but I voted for Obama in the NJ Primary and I plan on voting for him in the election. If Hillary wins the nomiation, I will not be voting for her, I'll just have to vote for McCain.
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3/19/2008  6:46 PM
Why? Obama is totally anti war and supporting the war is probably McCain's platform. That's kind of comprimising isn't it?
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3/19/2008  6:58 PM
There are many other issues outside of the war though.

Most candidates don't match any person's set of opinions, we just have to pick what issues are most important.

I'm iffy on the Iraq war, support the Afghan war, but care a lot more about economic polices. You could say that a lot of money is being wasted in Iraq, but I doubt the government is capable of using any amount of money well.

[Edited by - simrud on 03-19-2008 6:58 PM]
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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3/19/2008  7:04 PM
I'm a registared democrat and I that's because they told me to chose when I was 18. They won't let you vote without a party. Besides they claim to be a party and I have yet to get crunk or supaman on any ho's.

Now.....for Mrs Clinton? Obama always challenges Clintons claim on experience. He did in their last debate, but Obama is so non abrasive, the anchors and Clinton just ignore he even said anything.

Co-president? So if Hilary is elected will bill be co-president? Ok sounds like some bush ****. Do they want to be King and Queen of CLINTONVAINIA TOO?

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3/19/2008  7:04 PM
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by 4949:

After you explain obama first. And I don't want to hear about the hope things. I want real experience.

Typical......


I think I hear crickets.... For the life of me I don't understand why Obama's camp or really any of the other Democratic candidates never challenged Clinton on her experience claim.

Not to insult anyone, but when HRs hire people, they hire on experiece, for the task they will be performing. Obama might actually be a good prez, but people do look at experience.
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3/19/2008  7:08 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why? Obama is totally anti war and supporting the war is probably McCain's platform. That's kind of comprimising isn't it?

Allan, do you think it would be fair for me to ask you 'why are you voting for Obama'? I don't think people should be questioning anyones vote. NYK4ever, just like me, should have a right to vote for whoever we want and give our own political views, without being questioned.
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3/19/2008  7:10 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I'm a registared democrat and I that's because they told me to chose when I was 18. They won't let you vote without a party. Besides they claim to be a party and I have yet to get crunk or supaman on any ho's.

Now.....for Mrs Clinton? Obama always challenges Clintons claim on experience. He did in their last debate, but Obama is so non abrasive, the anchors and Clinton just ignore he even said anything.

Co-president? So if Hilary is elected will bill be co-president? Ok sounds like some bush ****. Do they want to be King and Queen of CLINTONVAINIA TOO?

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3/19/2008  7:33 PM
Voting doesn't matter as long as there are Diebold Machines. Also, Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich would be the best fit if this were an honest election, but it's not and the media has a big part in making people decide who to vote for. McCain is horrible as is Hillary and Obama. America should be about Freedom and not about Dictatorship. Hillary in my honest opinion is a LIAR. They all are except for Ron and Dennis. Atleast Ron and Dennis woke a lot of people up to many truths. It's something to build upon. No matter who is picked in this election it's going to be the same thing. They all are funded by lobbyists. Ron and Dennis were not. These politicians are F__KING scum.
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3/19/2008  7:38 PM
Kucinish has certainly showed a lot of potential cheating at the polls. I read the list. At one polling place, Edwards, Obama and Hillary all lost anywhere from abotu 60 to 200 votes total, because of fraud. And that was just one place.

I'm afraid this is no room for honest people in this world of politics. Who ever can stab the hardest, wins. It's what they do when they get in, is what I'm concerned about.
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3/19/2008  7:41 PM
Posted by LongIslandKnicksFan:

Voting doesn't matter as long as there are Diebold Machines. Also, Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich would be the best fit if this were an honest election, but it's not and the media has a big part in making people decide who to vote for. McCain is horrible as is Hillary and Obama. America should be about Freedom and not about Dictatorship. Hillary in my honest opinion is a LIAR. They all are except for Ron and Dennis. Atleast Ron and Dennis woke a lot of people up to many truths. It's something to build upon. No matter who is picked in this election it's going to be the same thing. They all are funded by lobbyists. Ron and Dennis were not. These politicians are F__KING scum.


Kucinich I agree with many of his views but this country is entirely too conservative to ever treat him as legitimate presidential candidate. However Ron Paul makes me very uneasy and some of his views have racist overtones to them.

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