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What mock drafts say about our pick, across the board
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4949
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3/15/2008  1:11 PM
I went to as many sites as I could stand. Below are the number of times a player was picked for our more likely spot at 5.
A few dopes had us picking at #9 & #12.
One site had us winning the #1 with lottery odds at 88 for us vs. Miami 250. But didn't say who we'd pick.

Here's the list, mainly at the 5th pick position, unless stated otherwise:

O. J. Mayo - 15 (twice at the #2 pick)
Eric Gordon - 10
DeAndre Jordan- 7
Jerryd Bayless - 6
Dante Green - 5 (once at the #4 pick)
Brook Lopez - 3
Roy Hibbert - 3 (once at the #3 pick)
Brandon Rush 2 (once at the #9 pick)
Kosta Koufos - 1
Tyler Hansbrough - 1 (at the #12 pick)
Chase Budinger - 1
Marreese Speights - 1
Bill Walker - 1
Darrell Arthur - 1


What if we did' get the #1? Do we go after Beasley? I think it's a no brainer.

What if we got the #2? Do we take Mayo? Personallyl, I think he's a little over hyped, but I do like the way he can shoot from the outside.

I thought you guys should know the basic overall feeling out there in www land.



[Edited by - 4949 on 03-15-2008 1:18 PM]
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3/15/2008  1:20 PM
I sure would like Michael Beasley though.

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3/15/2008  2:33 PM
If the Knicks lose the lottery.....I'm starting to think the Knicks should trade the pick regardless. The Knicks should trade it for a lower pick and a player or an additional pick. Like if someone has a hard on for Eric Gordon or oj mayo.

Beasley is the real prize of this draft. The Knicks need this kid more than any team in the league.
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3/15/2008  2:38 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

If the Knicks lose the lottery.....I'm starting to think the Knicks should trade the pick regardless. The Knicks should trade it for a lower pick and a player or an additional pick. Like if someone has a hard on for Eric Gordon or oj mayo.

Beasley is the real prize of this draft. The Knicks need this kid more than any team in the league.

OJ Mayo is the real deal. I would be happy with any one of the top three: Beasley, Rose, & Mayo. After that, its a crap-shoot. If Knicks fall out of the top three picks, I would keep my own pick, but would look to trade a player or two for an addtional pick late lotto or mid first round.

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3/15/2008  2:46 PM
If Miami wins the first pick, then for us to have a shot at him is to hope we get the second pick. My thinking is' since Miami already has a scorer in Wade, it is possble that they might' bypass him, to get a center.

That's the only shot we have at him, other than winning the first pick ourselves.
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3/15/2008  2:47 PM
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by EnySpree:

If the Knicks lose the lottery.....I'm starting to think the Knicks should trade the pick regardless. The Knicks should trade it for a lower pick and a player or an additional pick. Like if someone has a hard on for Eric Gordon or oj mayo.

Beasley is the real prize of this draft. The Knicks need this kid more than any team in the league.

OJ Mayo is the real deal. I would be happy with any one of the top three: Beasley, Rose, & Mayo. After that, its a crap-shoot. If Knicks fall out of the top three picks, I would keep my own pick, but would look to trade a player or two for an addtional pick late lotto or mid first round.

So Beast, if we ended up with the #1, would you take Beasley or Mayo?
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3/15/2008  2:49 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

If the Knicks lose the lottery.....I'm starting to think the Knicks should trade the pick regardless. The Knicks should trade it for a lower pick and a player or an additional pick. Like if someone has a hard on for Eric Gordon or oj mayo.

Beasley is the real prize of this draft. The Knicks need this kid more than any team in the league.


makes no sense if we lose lottery just means lee and or nate have to go to get a better pick
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3/15/2008  3:11 PM
Posted by bigbeast:

OJ Mayo is the real deal.


With Mayo's 13 #five spot picks, that's a little hard to beleive. The stat upstairs is telling in more ways than one. It's one thing to pick him as our #5 the most times, but for most people out there to pick him in the #5 spot so many times can be argued.


[Edited by - 4949 on 03-15-2008 3:15 PM]
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3/15/2008  3:14 PM
id rather have rose than mayo
he's too short at 6'4
he's not a pg
and if he has ego problems this is the wrong place for him to be
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3/15/2008  3:44 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by EnySpree:

If the Knicks lose the lottery.....I'm starting to think the Knicks should trade the pick regardless. The Knicks should trade it for a lower pick and a player or an additional pick. Like if someone has a hard on for Eric Gordon or oj mayo.

Beasley is the real prize of this draft. The Knicks need this kid more than any team in the league.

OJ Mayo is the real deal. I would be happy with any one of the top three: Beasley, Rose, & Mayo. After that, its a crap-shoot. If Knicks fall out of the top three picks, I would keep my own pick, but would look to trade a player or two for an addtional pick late lotto or mid first round.

So Beast, if we ended up with the #1, would you take Beasley or Mayo?

Beasley is the most talented player in the draft so I would definitely take him 1st. I do believe that Mayo is the second most talented player in this upcoming draft behind Beasley with Rose coming in at number 3.

Despite Mayo being a little more talented than Rose, IMO, if I'm the Knicks, I would still take Rose over Mayo if the opportunity presented itself because of the need for a point guard.
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3/15/2008  5:11 PM
Another interesting view here is, of the apporx. 56 sites I been to, about 50 of them consistently gave us the five spot.

So when you calculate it (minus two mocks), most people feel that we have only about a 7% chance of moving up natually. Sounds like we'll be forced to make a deal.

[Edited by - 4949 on 03-15-2008 5:12 PM]
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3/15/2008  9:49 PM
I dont see this love for Mayo. Derrick Rose has it all over him. I do think OJ Mayo is better than Gordon and Bayless, but by how much.

Beasley is amazing but he is going to have a horrible, me first attitude in the NBA and will be another thug ball player. This guy is arrogant in all the wrong ways. If we did get the #1 pick, Id trade down to #2 in a second.
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3/16/2008  5:50 AM
With Knicks luck , odds will say #5 pick and they move down to 8th or 9th.
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3/16/2008  9:07 AM
One thing to note: OJ Mayo isn't half the offensive & more importantly, defensive player Westbrook from UCLA is. Mayo & Gordon are really just undersized 2's (w/o the athetic ability that was billed). Westbrook = Monta Ellis.
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3/16/2008  10:03 AM
I personally don't think that mayo will be coming out this year. Mayo can stay at college one more year and be the first pick in the draft next year. None the less this was an intresting rundown of what we might get.
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3/16/2008  10:58 AM
I think the more Mayo stays the more his warts become evident.
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3/16/2008  1:10 PM
I am surprised that people aren't talking about Chris Lofton. HE is the real sleeper in the upcoming draft.

But the Knicks need a PG BADLY...and at that position, Augustin is the way to go.
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3/16/2008  2:17 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

If the Knicks lose the lottery.....I'm starting to think the Knicks should trade the pick regardless. The Knicks should trade it for a lower pick and a player or an additional pick. Like if someone has a hard on for Eric Gordon or oj mayo.

Beasley is the real prize of this draft. The Knicks need this kid more than any team in the league.


There is about two chances the Knicks get Beasley. One if thy win number one overall and two if Seattle win the the number one and the Knicks win number two. I don't see Seattle taking Beasley who is basically similar to Durant and Green. Rose fits the Sonics needs the best.
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3/17/2008  8:04 AM
OJ Mayo is another Stephon Marbury. No thanks. We need a pure point, not another selfish chucker. He is the last person this team needs right now.
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3/17/2008  12:21 PM
I've mentioned him before--and he's not worth a first round pick, however, he's a steal in the second--but Stephen Curry from, oddly, Davidson is worth a look. He's, what?, the fourth leading NCAA scorer and I'm pretty sure he leads in 3s and in 3s percentage. He was an even 6 feet last year but has apparently put on 3 inches and 20 lbs. He's a pure SG right now but he's scheduled to take over the point for the next two years. He's got the basic skills for it and he might be one of the rare examples of a successful transition. (The current Davidson PG, although not an NBA prospect is leading the NCAA in assists.) He's starting to get some press with the NCAA bid but I haven't seen anyone mention what was obvious at the beginning of the season--against NC, Duke, and UCLA, Curry was clearly the best player on the court. I've never seen a college player out shoot, say, Alan Houston or Reggie Miller and the kid always guards and shuts down the other team's best player regardless of size difference. His current game is old skool but he has the speed and ball smarts to play with anyone. I'm not the only person who thinks Curry's going to have a long NBA career. Anyway, Davidson plays Gonzaga in the first round and it's worth checking out Curry.
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