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TrueBlue
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3/14/2008  3:20 PM
Will it be the pick we select or is it one or a core of players currently on the roster?
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3/14/2008  3:25 PM
True,

I think I can answer for the majority of people on this site. We build around our young core of Lee, Balkman, Robinson, Chandler, and Morris unload all the over-paid, fat, malcontent vets, then we draft a top pick and use him as the center piece.
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3/14/2008  3:51 PM
Posted by bitty41:

True,

I think I can answer for the majority of people on this site. We build around our young core of Lee, Balkman, Robinson, Chandler, and Morris unload all the over-paid, fat, malcontent vets, then we draft a top pick and use him as the center piece.

So in other words the other pieces must go in order for the younger core and pick to develop properly. If the pick is truly going to be the centerpiece I think we have to make a trade to move up in the draft if we have a pick 5 or lower. If I'm understanding you correctly you'd like us to take an approach along the lines of the Blazers or Bulls? If so who would you say are both teams centerpieces? IMO I think the current players on the roster are somewhat irrelevant to keeping if the pick will truly be the centerpiece, take for instance like the Sonics. Durant is clearly the centerpiece and players like Wilcox, Ridnour, Collison, Sene, Swift aren't tantamount to retaining since they're building around Durant. Green obviously is a keeper but even Petro is an on the fense keeper IMO. With 13 picks from now until 2010 they'll be building through the draft. Could we turn our unwanted players into picks(no matter what value) to build around this yr's pick for 2-3yrs?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-14-2008 6:11 PM]
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3/14/2008  3:53 PM
Posted by bitty41:

True,

I think I can answer for the majority of people on this site. We build around our young core of Lee, Balkman, Robinson, Chandler, and Morris unload all the over-paid, fat, malcontent vets, then we draft a top pick and use him as the center piece.

You build with those young players. Hopefully the new GM can draft or trade some of those players for someone you can build around and develop a real core. I don't consider a bunch of role players and bench guys to be a core.
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3/14/2008  4:17 PM
I believe Cap'n Zeke should continue his long term plan to rebuild around his Li'l buddy, Marbury.
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3/14/2008  4:43 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by bitty41:

True,

I think I can answer for the majority of people on this site. We build around our young core of Lee, Balkman, Robinson, Chandler, and Morris unload all the over-paid, fat, malcontent vets, then we draft a top pick and use him as the center piece.

You build with those young players. Hopefully the new GM can draft or trade some of those players for someone you can build around and develop a real core. I don't consider a bunch of role players and bench guys to be a core.


I 100% concur. There's no way you approach the draft and say what player complements or will enhance the current young core. You draft the player that makes your future decisions to construct a team easier.

With this being said deciding on a coach is just as important if not more so in regards to Re/Builing?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-14-2008 3:43 PM]
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3/14/2008  4:55 PM
i know one thing rose would make finishers like chandler and balkman twice as good
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3/14/2008  5:08 PM
Eddy Curry. The Franchise.
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3/14/2008  5:09 PM
Oh wait. Or is that Marbury?
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3/14/2008  5:24 PM
if Isiah isn't gone, they should build around a large cement object, tie the franchise to it, and toss it into the east river.

Isiah hasn't built around anything except his own self inflated sense of judgment.


He has built around a collection of ill fitting, somewhat talented but flawed and incomplete players.
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if Isiah isn't gone, they should build around a large cement object, tie the franchise to it, and toss it into the east river.
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3/14/2008  5:48 PM
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3/14/2008  6:20 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Nobody.

You couldn't have simplified your answers anymore than you did.
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3/14/2008  6:34 PM
Here's the issue if we're bringing most of these guys back and by most I mean 90% of the roster I'm at wits ends knowing we either have to re-visit dumping the ball into Jabba Da Hut(possibly unlikely I SAY UGH.... "The NBA is moving away from the big man"), letting Zach Black Hole his way to Glory, or watch Nate and Crawford launch Skud Missiles dipped in Rucker Park sauce.

What style of offense will we run and will we ever shore up our defense? We're so messed up, it's very hard to pick where to start. My desire to hire a coach, even before the draft takes place is the first move we should make, after I SAY UGH is dealt with. Hire JVG, Fratello, Silas, or Carlisle(all defensive minded coaches). Every off-season move we make should be centered around acquiring defensive players. Basically build around DEFENSE.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-14-2008 5:46 PM]
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3/14/2008  6:37 PM
trading lee for a pick looks more and more enticing
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3/14/2008  6:39 PM
trading zbo james old man rose qbrick and cancerbury
for nothing would just be wonderful
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3/14/2008  7:04 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by bitty41:

True,

I think I can answer for the majority of people on this site. We build around our young core of Lee, Balkman, Robinson, Chandler, and Morris unload all the over-paid, fat, malcontent vets, then we draft a top pick and use him as the center piece.

So in other words the other pieces must go in order for the younger core and pick to develop properly. If the pick is truly going to be the centerpiece I think we have to make a trade to move up in the draft if we have a pick 5 or lower. If I'm understanding you correctly you'd like us to take an approach along the lines of the Blazers or Bulls? If so who would you say are both teams centerpieces? IMO I think the current players on the roster are somewhat irrelevant to keeping if the pick will truly be the centerpiece, take for instance like the Sonics. Durant is clearly the centerpiece and players like Wilcox, Ridnour, Collison, Sene, Swift aren't tantamount to retaining since they're building around Durant. Green obviously is a keeper but even Petro is an on the fense keeper IMO. With 13 picks from now until 20010 they'll be building through the draft. Could we turn our unwanted players into picks(no matter what value) to build around this yr's pick for 2-3yrs?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-14-2008 4:04 PM]


At some point the sonics are going to have to get some veteran pieces in order to win. Look around, there are no really young teams in the NBA that are contenders or even in the playoffs. Even the magic are a team of veterans not counting Howard of course...

I think you look at guys like lee and balkman and you can fit them around any good young player. chandler and morris, the jury is still out. Nate, you move him if you can get another good draft pick.

For me this draft is about getting in that top 3. Hopefully get rose, and go with the young guys mentioned to fill out the roster. How in the hell we move curry, zach, jeffries,Q and James is a friggin mystery... add in marbury and malik and it makes it even more of a job that requires divine intervention..
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Posted by TrueBlue:

Here's the issue if we're bringing most of these guys back and by most I mean 90% of the roster I'm at wits ends knowing we either have to re-visit dumping the ball into Jabba Da Hut(possibly unlikely I SAY UGH.... "The NBA is moving away from the big man"), letting Zach Black Hole his way to Glory, or watch Nate and Crawford launch Skud Missiles dipped in Rucker Park sauce.What style of offense will we run and will we ever shore up our defense? We're so messed up, it's very hard to pick where to start. My desire to hire a coach, even before the draft takes place is the first move we should make, after I SAY UGH is dealt with. Hire JVG, Fratello, Silas, or Carlisle(all defensive minded coaches). Every off-season move we make should be centered around acquiring defensive players. Basically build around DEFENSE.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-14-2008 5:46 PM]


ROFL .. that was hilarious...


[Edited by - tkf on 14-03-2008 7:05 PM]
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3/14/2008  7:10 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Will it be the pick we select or is it one or a core of players currently on the roster?

Is this a baited question?

Obviously the Knicks have to keep the young players and dump the old ones plus Q. Curry or Zach have to go......duh....

The question is "who are we building around" the answer is nobody. All the rest is just back and forth bull**** about how you are right and anything anyone else says is wrong.

I like Bitty's answer cuz there is no other answer. Knicks have to keep the kids and just keep adding on till they can make a move or find someone in the draft that you can build around.
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3/14/2008  7:18 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Will it be the pick we select or is it one or a core of players currently on the roster?

Is this a baited question?

Obviously the Knicks have to keep the young players and dump the old ones plus Q. Curry or Zach have to go......duh....

The question is "who are we building around" the answer is nobody. All the rest is just back and forth bull**** about how you are right and anything anyone else says is wrong.

I like Bitty's answer cuz there is no other answer. Knicks have to keep the kids and just keep adding on till they can make a move or find someone in the draft that you can build around.


Where is the back-and-forth in this thread? When did I say I was right and someone else was wrong?
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