Perhaps the first sign of a future disaster
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matt
Posts: 22259 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 11/5/2003 Member: #487 USA |
3/13/2008 10:37 PM
Kinda interesting on why one has done so much better in his career when they were compared as being the same players. Huh
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4949
Posts: 29378 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/25/2006 Member: #1126 USA |
3/13/2008 10:55 PM
If you notice, starbury took on more attitude over the years and ended up being ineffective. And Iverson, never got that ring, but lead the league in scoring a few times and got an MVP award.
And if you notice also, it's kind of ironic how both played under Brown. Iverson had some trouble with Brown, but it didn't turn into a disaster. And with starbury, they didn't even last one year together, costing the Knicks 28 mil. Very telling stats. I'll never trust this' team again.
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ramtour420
Posts: 26775 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 3/19/2007 Member: #1388 Russian Federation |
3/13/2008 11:22 PM
starbury should never, under any circumstanses be compared to anyone- ever. He is truly a 1 of a kind, unique person.
Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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4949
Posts: 29378 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/25/2006 Member: #1126 USA |
3/13/2008 11:29 PM
Posted by ramtour420:  I'll never trust this' team again.
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
3/13/2008 11:35 PM
I will say this. Both guys were just electric, athletic young players. Marbury did help lead the wolves to the playoffs his rookie year, and both guys had all the physical gifts. I guess marbury just crumbled with the mental aspect of things.. I really hate that for him...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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TrueBlue
Posts: 29144 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 9/20/2006 Member: #1172 |
3/13/2008 11:46 PM
Posted by tkf: One player truly plays up to or arguably better than his perception of how good he thinks he is, the other player plays below his perception of how good he thinks he is. One player is correct about his own perception the other is wrong about his own perception. LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
3/13/2008 11:57 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:Posted by tkf: LOL.. that pretty much sums it up.. Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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toodarkmark
Posts: 21145 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/2/2004 Member: #515 USA |
3/14/2008 2:48 PM
Marbury ended up being a victim of his attitude. Iverson had his issues but matured slightly. If Marbury had to eat some humble pie during his time in Minnesota, things may have been different.
I put him in the Isiah Rider category of all world talent no mind having. I don't care what people think. People are stupid. - Charles Barkley
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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
3/14/2008 8:20 PM
Marbury was a better player then AI when they started their NBA careers.
AI has a Indomitable personality so his surroundings never effected his talent. Marbury was the cearly the opposite, which is why he would rather try to find the perfect place to play then make the perfect place to play. "Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
3/15/2008 5:45 PM
Marbury was not even close to being better than AI when they started their careers... AI won ROY in '96 & put up 24 / 8 / 4 / 2 #'s vs. Marbury's 16 / 8 / 3 / 1... yes, Marbury had to share the scoring load w/KG but AI also had to share the scoring load w/another 20+ ppg scorer, Jerry Stackhouse that year... AI has put up consistently jaw dropping statlines since he came into the league & did so for a championship contending team in the process... Marbury absolute best season he's ever had in '01 doesn't even beat AI's rookie season totals.
i'll agree w/u on the parts about their personalities tho... AI has that "F you, i'm gonna do it with or without your approval" mentality... Marbury has the "F you, i'm great, i don't gotta prove nothin' to nobody" type mentality. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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4949
Posts: 29378 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/25/2006 Member: #1126 USA |
3/15/2008 5:51 PM
One more thing about that last part. IA has always backed it up.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
3/15/2008 6:33 PM
funny thing was i remember having debates w/a few posters on this forum about how Marbury wasn't even in AI's league just a couple seasons ago... can't believe anyone would rank those guys in the same class as ballers... AI's going to the Hall of Fame... Marbury's already in the Hall of Shame.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Perhaps the first sign of a future disaster