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BRIGGS
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3/6/2008  10:48 PM
1. Michael Beasley F
2. Derrick Rose G
3 Brook Lopez F/C
4. Anthony Randolph F
5 Hasheem Thabeet C

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3/6/2008  10:50 PM
Hasheem Thabeet is not a lottery pick and neither is Anthony Randolph.

My dream picks would be Derrick Rose if we have a chance at him and Joey Dorsey with out 2nd rounder. Both are from Memphis.

Dorsey is a great defensive player. Ben Wallace 2.0.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 03-06-2008 10:53 PM]
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3/6/2008  11:33 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Hasheem Thabeet is not a lottery pick and neither is Anthony Randolph.

My dream picks would be Derrick Rose if we have a chance at him and Joey Dorsey with out 2nd rounder. Both are from Memphis.

Dorsey is a great defensive player. Ben Wallace 2.0.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 03-06-2008 10:53 PM]

If Hasheem stayed in school 1 more year hed be pick 1. Randolph is something between a cross of chris bosh and brendan wright and could also be considered a player who could go 1 next year. I dont want eric gordon[to short] and bayless would be the only other consideration. at that point id rather trade down for a player like chris douglas roberts and see if we can pick up an additional 1 for next year with no protection. I want a high ceiling player.
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3/6/2008  11:35 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Hasheem Thabeet is not a lottery pick and neither is Anthony Randolph.

My dream picks would be Derrick Rose if we have a chance at him and Joey Dorsey with out 2nd rounder. Both are from Memphis.

Dorsey is a great defensive player. Ben Wallace 2.0.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 03-06-2008 10:53 PM]

Hasheem Thabeet is most definitely at lotto pick.
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3/6/2008  11:35 PM
by the way joey dorsey wont even crack round 1
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3/6/2008  11:36 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

by the way joey dorsey wont even crack round 1

2nd round pick.
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Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by GKFv2:

Hasheem Thabeet is not a lottery pick and neither is Anthony Randolph.

My dream picks would be Derrick Rose if we have a chance at him and Joey Dorsey with out 2nd rounder. Both are from Memphis.

Dorsey is a great defensive player. Ben Wallace 2.0.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 03-06-2008 10:53 PM]

Hasheem Thabeet is most definitely at lotto pick.

Uh...no. Mid-late first round is where he's slated and it's where he will go. This guy is another raw player. Saer Sene went 10 in a very weak draft. This guy ain't going lottery. Not every shot blocker with no offensive skills at all pans out. For every Dalembert there is a Ruben Boumtje Boumtje and a Mamadou N'Diaye.
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3/7/2008  12:05 AM
I would take a chance on Thabeet by trading down if the other options I want aren't there. Thabeet has homerun potential as a center. So does Deandre Jordan. Lopez seems like he will be a good NBA player but I don't see homerun potential in him.

1.Beasley
2.Rose
3.Jordan
4.Trade down for Thabeet
5.Trade the pick for Josh Smith, Okafor, Marion, Arenas, Brand.
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3/7/2008  12:05 AM
Thabeet is definitely not being drafted within the top 5. Players who have tons of skill/potential go 1-5. Thabeet reminds me of Johan Petro, he's just super raw but can become one badass player. I think his ceiling is Mutumbo-esque.
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3/7/2008  12:11 AM
U must mean the other guy Sonics drafted, Not Petro, but Sene. That would be a better comparison. Petro & Sene came from France & Senegal. Thabeet has been playing for Uconn and has been coached by there coaching staff for the last 3 yrs. I think that will make him WAY more ready for NBA than those 2 guys were.
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Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Thabeet is definitely not being drafted within the top 5. Players who have tons of skill/potential go 1-5. Thabeet reminds me of Johan Petro, he's just super raw but can become one badass player. I think his ceiling is Mutumbo-esque.

I've been back and forth with Thabeet because of his hands. Johan Petro isnt 7-3 275 or even close. Thabeet is a monster who can score rebound block shots and have a true impact on the game. He still is two years away. If he continues on his path in college--he would likely be pick 1 by next year--and Im sure you would see 2or 3 20 point 20 rebound 10 block games if he stayed for year 3. Not many guys can do that in any league. If a pro team is committed to working with him--you can teach what he has physically. Some people who say he is frail? Take a hard look at his body when he doesnt wear a shirt--he's very muscular with big legs and torso. He also has unsual coordination from soccer he is slowly integrating into basketball skills? Ever watch him shoot a FT? Much more coordinated than your ruben boumtje2 of the world. His hands are ONLY question mark. Hes a worker and cares.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 03-07-2008 12:17 AM]
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3/7/2008  12:19 AM
From NBADraft.NET

NBA Comparison: Dikembe Mutombo
Strengths: For his immense size, Thabeet is an above average runner of the court … Does a great job of getting initial post position by using his body wide and sealing off his defender … Has soft hands. Rarely does he bobble passes and catches with few problems no matter the distance or speed of the pass … Shot blocking skills are top shelf … His explosiveness: getting off the floor quickly is mind blowing for a player his size ... Physically he has all the tools needed to continue with his long arms and first-rate timing … Unlike many young players he has learned to be a very patient shot blocker that rarely bites on pump fakes … Has yet to even scratch the surface of his vast potential … Although still learning the game, he doesn’t have a lot of bad habits … Very coachable in that whatever flaws he has in his game can be easily corrected … Shows solid outlet passing ability which is rare for a player with his level of experience … Although his post moves are unrefined, Thabeet has shown reasonably good touch … Above average defensive rebounder … Shows decent upper body strength, which should greatly improve and great athleticism for his size…

Weaknesses: Offensively Thabeet remains raw and undeveloped … Struggles to maintain his position in the post where he tends to get rooted out by smaller players … Although as mentioned above he is an above average runner on the court he still could improve his foot speed … Like many players his age, Thabeet’s post footwork is a work in progress although to his credit it has improved since his breakout Global Games performance … Should continue to learn how to block out more aggressively when working for the offensive rebound … Movements are a bit mechanical but this doesn’t seem to affect his coordination right now … Free throw shooting is below average, however he does show good form and confidence with repetition he should become solid before the season is over … Back to the basket skills are in need of improvement … Not much of a face-up player … Offensive court awareness is evolving but still is a few steps behind. This is evident when he is finishing around the basket as he loses where he is in relation to the basket or rushes his shot …
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3/7/2008  12:56 AM
NBADraft.net is the worst site of all time. I can't remember any player int he first round they didn't compare to a legend. I remember Omar Cook being compared to Jason Kidd.
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3/7/2008  1:49 AM
Posted by GKFv2:

NBADraft.net is the worst site of all time. I can't remember any player int he first round they didn't compare to a legend. I remember Omar Cook being compared to Jason Kidd.

they only post those comparisons to display the absolute ceiling each prospect might project to be... it's not meant to be taken literally like these guys are gonna be these allstar calibre players anytime soon.
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Posted by newyorknewyork:

I would take a chance on Thabeet by trading down if the other options I want aren't there. Thabeet has homerun potential as a center. So does Deandre Jordan. Lopez seems like he will be a good NBA player but I don't see homerun potential in him.

1.Beasley
2.Rose
3.Jordan
4.Trade down for Thabeet
5.Trade the pick for Josh Smith, Okafor, Marion, Arenas, Brand.

i'm down w/that plan (except for Arenas, last thing we need is another freelancing shotchucker)... hopefully we land ourselves one of the top 3 picks when it's all said & done & don't have to worry about trading down for anyone... i'd love to acquire another later round pick if we can using maybe Malik's expiring as long as the contract we get back doesn't extend past 2010 & take the best shoblocker available at that spot.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-06-2008 11:59 PM]
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3/7/2008  2:27 AM
I have yet to see the hype surrounding DeAndre Jordan. I've seen him play in person a few times and he just seemed to disappear on the court. It seemed like he wasn't even the best big man on A&M.
I'm sure my sample size must be too small to judge, but can someone please give a mini scouting report...or at least explain why he's been talked of going so high in the draft?
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3/7/2008  9:42 AM
Posted by GKFv2:

Uh...no. Mid-late first round is where he's slated and it's where he will go. This guy is another raw player. Saer Sene went 10 in a very weak draft. This guy ain't going lottery. Not every shot blocker with no offensive skills at all pans out. For every Dalembert there is a Ruben Boumtje Boumtje and a Mamadou N'Diaye.

Just you watch, I guarantee Thabeet is not only a lotto pick when he comes out, but he's selected in the top 8. I don't base all my results off of some website, I actually watch the games, if you did too, you'd know how he's not "just another raw player." Watch the next UConn game(Sat, 4:00 vs Cincy) and tell me he's just another raw player. He's already the best defensive player in this draft if he comes out, which according to Briggs, it sounds like he will.
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3/7/2008  9:59 AM
Hasheem Thabeet is a top 10 pick without a doubt, borderline top 5.
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3/7/2008  2:51 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by GKFv2:

Uh...no. Mid-late first round is where he's slated and it's where he will go. This guy is another raw player. Saer Sene went 10 in a very weak draft. This guy ain't going lottery. Not every shot blocker with no offensive skills at all pans out. For every Dalembert there is a Ruben Boumtje Boumtje and a Mamadou N'Diaye.

Just you watch, I guarantee Thabeet is not only a lotto pick when he comes out, but he's selected in the top 8. I don't base all my results off of some website, I actually watch the games, if you did too, you'd know how he's not "just another raw player." Watch the next UConn game(Sat, 4:00 vs Cincy) and tell me he's just another raw player. He's already the best defensive player in this draft if he comes out, which according to Briggs, it sounds like he will.

What website? YOU don't know what you're talking about, not me. Thank God we don't have you running the team if you'd waste a top 10 pick on Hasheem Thabeet. Jesus.

I repeat: Hasheem Thabeet is not a top 10 pick in this draft. Maybe if this was the 2006 draft but not this draft. Hasheem Thabeet will go anywhere from 15-30. You can trade cash for another pick to get him. If you can't, you can try to get that defensive player by selecting Joey Dorsey in the late 1st, early 2nd round.

In this draft, you draft best player available and at 5, 6, or 7 Thabeet will NOT be the best player available.


[Edited by - gkfv2 on 03-07-2008 3:01 PM]
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3/7/2008  2:58 PM
Posted by GKFv2:



What website? YOU don't know what you're talking about, not me. Thank God we don't have you runningt he team if you'd waste a top 10 pick on Hasheem Thabeet. Jesus.

Yeah me and every other GM currently in the NBA.
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