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Watching this game right now vs the Magic.. man it genuinely seems like this whole Raptor team likes playing together, Calderon is just a leader out there with the way he runs the team on the floor. You got TJ Ford on the bench and he has no problem with Calderon playing right now instead of him. It seems like there are no ego's on this team.
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without bosh, they are totally 1 dimensional so they are easy to defend. not sure what tj was trying to do there going 1 on 5 tho.

but they play within themselves and are mostly efficient. only freelancer is delfino.

but they are soft, don't play defense, don't rebound and live and die by the jumper. but this is the stop gap team. it will look different in 2 years.
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Posted by djsunyc:

without bosh, they are totally 1 dimensional so they are easy to defend. not sure what tj was trying to do there going 1 on 5 tho.

but they play within themselves and are mostly efficient. only freelancer is delfino.

but they are soft, don't play defense, don't rebound and live and die by the jumper. but this is the stop gap team. it will look different in 2 years.

That's interesting. What do you think they are ultimately going to do roster-wise? Do you think they'll keep the Calderon/Ford combo? It didn't look like it was working when they were both in the game at the same time since the both of them are such prototypical PGs.
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Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

without bosh, they are totally 1 dimensional so they are easy to defend. not sure what tj was trying to do there going 1 on 5 tho.

but they play within themselves and are mostly efficient. only freelancer is delfino.

but they are soft, don't play defense, don't rebound and live and die by the jumper. but this is the stop gap team. it will look different in 2 years.

That's interesting. What do you think they are ultimately going to do roster-wise? Do you think they'll keep the Calderon/Ford combo? It didn't look like it was working when they were both in the game at the same time since the both of them are such prototypical PGs.

smitch is experimenting with small ball without bosh. they don't work well together and they hardly play together.

not sure what bc is gonna do. he has a bunch of expirings next season. and i think he keeps forderon together until the deadline and then probably moves one.

hawks offered childress for calderon and toronto decline. so it will take much more to get one of the raps pg's.

they need a bruiser down low and they need a big time sg/sf.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-04-2008 9:46 PM]
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Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

without bosh, they are totally 1 dimensional so they are easy to defend. not sure what tj was trying to do there going 1 on 5 tho.

but they play within themselves and are mostly efficient. only freelancer is delfino.

but they are soft, don't play defense, don't rebound and live and die by the jumper. but this is the stop gap team. it will look different in 2 years.

That's interesting. What do you think they are ultimately going to do roster-wise? Do you think they'll keep the Calderon/Ford combo? It didn't look like it was working when they were both in the game at the same time since the both of them are such prototypical PGs.

smitch is experimenting with small ball without bosh. they don't work well together and they hardly play together.

not sure what bc is gonna do. he has a bunch of expirings next season. and i think he keeps forderon together until the deadline and then probably moves one.

hawks offered childress for calderon and toronto decline. so it will take much more to get one of the raps pg's.

they need a bruiser down low and they need a big time sg/sf.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-04-2008 9:46 PM]


DJ who do you see as a good matchup for the Raps in the playoffs?.... hopefully them being at full strength?
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Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

without bosh, they are totally 1 dimensional so they are easy to defend. not sure what tj was trying to do there going 1 on 5 tho.

but they play within themselves and are mostly efficient. only freelancer is delfino.

but they are soft, don't play defense, don't rebound and live and die by the jumper. but this is the stop gap team. it will look different in 2 years.

That's interesting. What do you think they are ultimately going to do roster-wise? Do you think they'll keep the Calderon/Ford combo? It didn't look like it was working when they were both in the game at the same time since the both of them are such prototypical PGs.

smitch is experimenting with small ball without bosh. they don't work well together and they hardly play together.

not sure what bc is gonna do. he has a bunch of expirings next season. and i think he keeps forderon together until the deadline and then probably moves one.

hawks offered childress for calderon and toronto decline. so it will take much more to get one of the raps pg's.

they need a bruiser down low and they need a big time sg/sf.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-04-2008 9:46 PM]


DJ who do you see as a good matchup for the Raps in the playoffs?.... hopefully them being at full strength?

they would lose to boston, detroit and the cavs - probably in 5 games.

they can beat all the other teams and probably would beat all the other teams.

but right now, it's a virtual lock that boston, detroit and the magic will be the top 3 seeds. cle and the raps will fight for homecourt with the 4/5 seed. but it won't matter b/c lebron sh ts on the raptors and cavs could sweep.

bargs' dissapointing season hurt the team alot (especially with garbajosa out).
and bosh, for all his greatness, is handcuffed a little by his frame so when postseason comes along, and defenses lock down, it's tougher for him to manuever in the paint, and then he becomes a hesitant jumpshooter not knowing what to do when he gets the ball.
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Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

without bosh, they are totally 1 dimensional so they are easy to defend. not sure what tj was trying to do there going 1 on 5 tho.

but they play within themselves and are mostly efficient. only freelancer is delfino.

but they are soft, don't play defense, don't rebound and live and die by the jumper. but this is the stop gap team. it will look different in 2 years.

That's interesting. What do you think they are ultimately going to do roster-wise? Do you think they'll keep the Calderon/Ford combo? It didn't look like it was working when they were both in the game at the same time since the both of them are such prototypical PGs.

smitch is experimenting with small ball without bosh. they don't work well together and they hardly play together.

not sure what bc is gonna do. he has a bunch of expirings next season. and i think he keeps forderon together until the deadline and then probably moves one.

hawks offered childress for calderon and toronto decline. so it will take much more to get one of the raps pg's.

they need a bruiser down low and they need a big time sg/sf.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-04-2008 9:46 PM]


DJ who do you see as a good matchup for the Raps in the playoffs?.... hopefully them being at full strength?

they would lose to boston, detroit and the cavs - probably in 5 games.

they can beat all the other teams and probably would beat all the other teams.

but right now, it's a virtual lock that boston, detroit and the magic will be the top 3 seeds. cle and the raps will fight for homecourt with the 4/5 seed. but it won't matter b/c lebron sh ts on the raptors and cavs could sweep.

bargs' dissapointing season hurt the team alot (especially with garbajosa out).
and bosh, for all his greatness, is handcuffed a little by his frame so when postseason comes along, and defenses lock down, it's tougher for him to manuever in the paint, and then he becomes a hesitant jumpshooter not knowing what to do when he gets the ball.


I can't figure Bargs out. The guy can flat out shoot and actually plays good man D but it seems like he doesn't know if he has star power. Bargs has a lot of work to do and I mean a lot. Hindsight doing the draft over again should Calangelo have traded the pick down to 5 or 6?
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3/4/2008  10:18 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

without bosh, they are totally 1 dimensional so they are easy to defend. not sure what tj was trying to do there going 1 on 5 tho.

but they play within themselves and are mostly efficient. only freelancer is delfino.

but they are soft, don't play defense, don't rebound and live and die by the jumper. but this is the stop gap team. it will look different in 2 years.

That's interesting. What do you think they are ultimately going to do roster-wise? Do you think they'll keep the Calderon/Ford combo? It didn't look like it was working when they were both in the game at the same time since the both of them are such prototypical PGs.

smitch is experimenting with small ball without bosh. they don't work well together and they hardly play together.

not sure what bc is gonna do. he has a bunch of expirings next season. and i think he keeps forderon together until the deadline and then probably moves one.

hawks offered childress for calderon and toronto decline. so it will take much more to get one of the raps pg's.

they need a bruiser down low and they need a big time sg/sf.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-04-2008 9:46 PM]


DJ who do you see as a good matchup for the Raps in the playoffs?.... hopefully them being at full strength?

they would lose to boston, detroit and the cavs - probably in 5 games.

they can beat all the other teams and probably would beat all the other teams.

but right now, it's a virtual lock that boston, detroit and the magic will be the top 3 seeds. cle and the raps will fight for homecourt with the 4/5 seed. but it won't matter b/c lebron sh ts on the raptors and cavs could sweep.

bargs' dissapointing season hurt the team alot (especially with garbajosa out).
and bosh, for all his greatness, is handcuffed a little by his frame so when postseason comes along, and defenses lock down, it's tougher for him to manuever in the paint, and then he becomes a hesitant jumpshooter not knowing what to do when he gets the ball.


I can't figure Bargs out. The guy can flat out shoot and actually plays good man D but it seems like he doesn't know if he has star power. Bargs has a lot of work to do and I mean a lot. Hindsight doing the draft over again should Calangelo have traded the pick down to 5 or 6?

not sure either. when he gets going early, he has a huge night. but when he doesn't, they really don't run any plays for him so he's just another jump shooter out there. his game has expanded as he's driving alot more but it's the catch-22 of trying to develop a young player and trying to win games at the same time - i don't think that can happen unless the team was already a big winner in the first place.

bc could've traded down b/c nobody in the top5 would've taken him. but he was still the right gamble to make. aldridge would not work with bosh. only really debatable player is roy b/c he's a player the raptors could use.
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Posted by TrueBlue:
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Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

without bosh, they are totally 1 dimensional so they are easy to defend. not sure what tj was trying to do there going 1 on 5 tho.

but they play within themselves and are mostly efficient. only freelancer is delfino.

but they are soft, don't play defense, don't rebound and live and die by the jumper. but this is the stop gap team. it will look different in 2 years.

That's interesting. What do you think they are ultimately going to do roster-wise? Do you think they'll keep the Calderon/Ford combo? It didn't look like it was working when they were both in the game at the same time since the both of them are such prototypical PGs.

smitch is experimenting with small ball without bosh. they don't work well together and they hardly play together.

not sure what bc is gonna do. he has a bunch of expirings next season. and i think he keeps forderon together until the deadline and then probably moves one.

hawks offered childress for calderon and toronto decline. so it will take much more to get one of the raps pg's.

they need a bruiser down low and they need a big time sg/sf.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-04-2008 9:46 PM]


DJ who do you see as a good matchup for the Raps in the playoffs?.... hopefully them being at full strength?

they would lose to boston, detroit and the cavs - probably in 5 games.

they can beat all the other teams and probably would beat all the other teams.

but right now, it's a virtual lock that boston, detroit and the magic will be the top 3 seeds. cle and the raps will fight for homecourt with the 4/5 seed. but it won't matter b/c lebron sh ts on the raptors and cavs could sweep.

bargs' dissapointing season hurt the team alot (especially with garbajosa out).
and bosh, for all his greatness, is handcuffed a little by his frame so when postseason comes along, and defenses lock down, it's tougher for him to manuever in the paint, and then he becomes a hesitant jumpshooter not knowing what to do when he gets the ball.


I can't figure Bargs out. The guy can flat out shoot and actually plays good man D but it seems like he doesn't know if he has star power. Bargs has a lot of work to do and I mean a lot. Hindsight doing the draft over again should Calangelo have traded the pick down to 5 or 6?

yea, they should have traded the pick. Hindsight of course, but bargs is another bigs with a nice set shot, he can put the ball on the floor, but does't have that stop and start ability like dirk once he does so, nor can he really hit shots off the dribble.. His skills probably looked great overseas where he is not athletically challenged as much when he gets to the hoop, but in the NBA I think he will be what he is now. A tall euro, with a great stroke on his set shot, can beat some bigs off the dribble, will have some trouble finishing at the rim.... will show flashes of being an allstar, but never on a consistent basis....
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Posted by djsunyc:
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Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

without bosh, they are totally 1 dimensional so they are easy to defend. not sure what tj was trying to do there going 1 on 5 tho.

but they play within themselves and are mostly efficient. only freelancer is delfino.

but they are soft, don't play defense, don't rebound and live and die by the jumper. but this is the stop gap team. it will look different in 2 years.

That's interesting. What do you think they are ultimately going to do roster-wise? Do you think they'll keep the Calderon/Ford combo? It didn't look like it was working when they were both in the game at the same time since the both of them are such prototypical PGs.

smitch is experimenting with small ball without bosh. they don't work well together and they hardly play together.

not sure what bc is gonna do. he has a bunch of expirings next season. and i think he keeps forderon together until the deadline and then probably moves one.

hawks offered childress for calderon and toronto decline. so it will take much more to get one of the raps pg's.

they need a bruiser down low and they need a big time sg/sf.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-04-2008 9:46 PM]


DJ who do you see as a good matchup for the Raps in the playoffs?.... hopefully them being at full strength?

they would lose to boston, detroit and the cavs - probably in 5 games.

they can beat all the other teams and probably would beat all the other teams.

but right now, it's a virtual lock that boston, detroit and the magic will be the top 3 seeds. cle and the raps will fight for homecourt with the 4/5 seed. but it won't matter b/c lebron sh ts on the raptors and cavs could sweep.

bargs' dissapointing season hurt the team alot (especially with garbajosa out).
and bosh, for all his greatness, is handcuffed a little by his frame so when postseason comes along, and defenses lock down, it's tougher for him to manuever in the paint, and then he becomes a hesitant jumpshooter not knowing what to do when he gets the ball.


I can't figure Bargs out. The guy can flat out shoot and actually plays good man D but it seems like he doesn't know if he has star power. Bargs has a lot of work to do and I mean a lot. Hindsight doing the draft over again should Calangelo have traded the pick down to 5 or 6?

not sure either. when he gets going early, he has a huge night. but when he doesn't, they really don't run any plays for him so he's just another jump shooter out there. his game has expanded as he's driving alot more but it's the catch-22 of trying to develop a young player and trying to win games at the same time - i don't think that can happen unless the team was already a big winner in the first place.

bc could've traded down b/c nobody in the top5 would've taken him. but he was still the right gamble to make. aldridge would not work with bosh. only really debatable player is roy b/c he's a player the raptors could use.

You think Roy would have still been there at 5 even with Bargs on the board? I think so! What about Gay he's actually a 2-3 he could play with Bosh.
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I'm waiting to see what Colangelo does, everybody north of the border knows they need a bruiser in the low post, bosh is too thin.

But when the raptors brass go out and look for that guy he better not be a Euro soft guy.

The raptors need someone who is really athletic and thick to control the middle, but will that guy fit the chemistry ?

Colangelo knows he has to get a athletic shotblocker rebounder or sam mitchell is gonna lose it with this group as is.....bosh is not enough in the post.
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yup, this is the stopgap team, but i suspect it will look very different in 2 years.

gay would've helped but the raps only have 1 guy right now that can create on his own and that's tj. for that reason only, i think roy would've fit in better than gay.

smitch is gonna start beating down on some players soon.
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Posted by djsunyc:

yup, this is the stopgap team, but i suspect it will look very different in 2 years.

gay would've helped but the raps only have 1 guy right now that can create on his own and that's tj. for that reason only, i think roy would've fit in better than gay.

smitch is gonna start beating down on some players soon.

TJ has some issues with the Raptors for coming off the bench, it's on NOW.

http://www.thestar.com/article/309937

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You guys left off the 'C'

It's spelled C r a p t o r s.



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yup, this is the stopgap team, but i suspect it will look very different in 2 years.

gay would've helped but the raps only have 1 guy right now that can create on his own and that's tj. for that reason only, i think roy would've fit in better than gay.

smitch is gonna start beating down on some players soon.

TJ has some issues with the Raptors for coming off the bench, it's on NOW.

http://www.thestar.com/article/309937

not sure what's going on. they said before the game he had a talk with smitch and maurizio. the writer is basically speculating but i hope tj isn't becoming me-j. the strength of that team is chemistry. but if anybody disrupts it, bc will ship him out with the quickness - colangelo is gangsta.
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I think I jinxed them.. not 2 days after I post this thread and go on about how they like each other, TJ comes out with this.

Sorry DJ.
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So, T.J. huddles with his coach and his GM’s right hand man for a while before the game to go through some “personal issues.” What to make of it? Well, could be anything but it’s obvious something’s bothering him. The body language has sucked, his propensity to try and do too much was back again in Orlando and you should only hope he gets through it quickly. He wasn’t great in Miami but he wasn’t horrible. The easy thing to do is chalk it up to some simmering problem with Jose but, if you do, ask yourself, why now? Why not last weekend? Why not when he first came back? Maybe there are other life issues going on that are in his mind.
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yup, this is the stopgap team, but i suspect it will look very different in 2 years.

gay would've helped but the raps only have 1 guy right now that can create on his own and that's tj. for that reason only, i think roy would've fit in better than gay.

smitch is gonna start beating down on some players soon.

TJ has some issues with the Raptors for coming off the bench, it's on NOW.

http://www.thestar.com/article/309937

not sure what's going on. they said before the game he had a talk with smitch and maurizio. the writer is basically speculating but i hope tj isn't becoming me-j. the strength of that team is chemistry. but if anybody disrupts it, bc will ship him out with the quickness - colangelo is gangsta.


I think it has more to do with Bosh being down... T.J. wants to assume "THE MAN" role. If Bosh was healthy this wouldn't be that big an issue, although overall I feel T.J. wants to start. This is about a player wanting to save the day or play hero so to speak.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-06-2008 11:17 AM]
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Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by djsunyc:

yup, this is the stopgap team, but i suspect it will look very different in 2 years.

gay would've helped but the raps only have 1 guy right now that can create on his own and that's tj. for that reason only, i think roy would've fit in better than gay.

smitch is gonna start beating down on some players soon.

TJ has some issues with the Raptors for coming off the bench, it's on NOW.

http://www.thestar.com/article/309937

not sure what's going on. they said before the game he had a talk with smitch and maurizio. the writer is basically speculating but i hope tj isn't becoming me-j. the strength of that team is chemistry. but if anybody disrupts it, bc will ship him out with the quickness - colangelo is gangsta.


I think it has more to do with Bosh beng down... T.J. wants to assume "THE MAN" role. If Bosh was healthy this wouldn't be that big an issue, although overall I feel T.J. wants to start. This is about a player wanting to save the day or play hero so to speak.

i agree b/c it somewhat falls into what smitch said in the postgame after the orlando game - he said tj was trying to step up with bosh out but has to realize to involve his teammates more.
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