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If we don't get Derrick Rose or Beasley in the draft, then this is the kid we need !!
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BlacKat
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3/2/2008  9:12 AM
2 Darren Collison
Birthday:8/23/1987
NBA Postion:Point Guard
Ht:6-1Wt:170
College Team:UCLA

Strengths: Made a name for himself as a freshman as a lock down defender, with his tremendous reflexes, long arms and quick feet: Collison has the ability to make life hell for opposing point guards trying to bring the ball up the court … An absolute jet, has an extra gear which allows him to blow by virtually any college PG at will … His hand and foot speed put him in elite company … Mentally tough. Has a great motor, competes hard and doesn’t back down ... He steps his level of intensity up in important situations … Has really improved as a floor general and shows excellent vision and passing along with great ball handling ability … A smart decision maker who knows when to pull the ball out and when to attack the glass … Rarely makes bad judgments passing the ball … He’s just 6’ feet (barefoot) but has extremely long arms allowing him to play bigger than his actual size … His outside shooting has shown excellent improvement, and he has also developed an effective mid-range tear drop that he utilizes over shot blockers … His body control is tremendous … A real terror as an on ball defender, quick to pounce on any mistake made by opposing guards … If he gets a step on opponents in the open court, it’s usually too late to catch up to foul him …

Weaknesses: Still learning the ropes in his first full season as a college starting point guard … Lacks experience in big game situations leading a team, but appears primed to step into Farmar’s shoes and effectively lead the team as a sophomore … Has the makings of a star but will likely defer to more experienced players such as Mbah a Moute, Afflalo and Shipp with regard to go-to scoring until his time comes … Eventually will need to learn to take over in crunch time and become more selfish … He lacks great body strength. Could stand to bulk up some, at his current weight he is not able to absorb contact inside as well as bigger/stronger guards … He’s got solid leaping ability, but his greatest physical attribute is quickness … Can be posted up by taller and stronger guards … His speed gives him a huge advantage in the open court, must continue to improve in the half court set … Must improve on his 1:1 A/TO ratio as a freshman ...

Aran Smith - 11/21/2006
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arkrud
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3/2/2008  9:20 AM
Posted by BlacKat:

2 Darren Collison
Birthday:8/23/1987
NBA Postion:Point Guard
Ht:6-1Wt:170
College Team:UCLA

Strengths: Made a name for himself as a freshman as a lock down defender, with his tremendous reflexes, long arms and quick feet: Collison has the ability to make life hell for opposing point guards trying to bring the ball up the court … An absolute jet, has an extra gear which allows him to blow by virtually any college PG at will … His hand and foot speed put him in elite company … Mentally tough. Has a great motor, competes hard and doesn’t back down ... He steps his level of intensity up in important situations … Has really improved as a floor general and shows excellent vision and passing along with great ball handling ability … A smart decision maker who knows when to pull the ball out and when to attack the glass … Rarely makes bad judgments passing the ball … He’s just 6’ feet (barefoot) but has extremely long arms allowing him to play bigger than his actual size … His outside shooting has shown excellent improvement, and he has also developed an effective mid-range tear drop that he utilizes over shot blockers … His body control is tremendous … A real terror as an on ball defender, quick to pounce on any mistake made by opposing guards … If he gets a step on opponents in the open court, it’s usually too late to catch up to foul him …

Weaknesses: Still learning the ropes in his first full season as a college starting point guard … Lacks experience in big game situations leading a team, but appears primed to step into Farmar’s shoes and effectively lead the team as a sophomore … Has the makings of a star but will likely defer to more experienced players such as Mbah a Moute, Afflalo and Shipp with regard to go-to scoring until his time comes … Eventually will need to learn to take over in crunch time and become more selfish … He lacks great body strength. Could stand to bulk up some, at his current weight he is not able to absorb contact inside as well as bigger/stronger guards … He’s got solid leaping ability, but his greatest physical attribute is quickness … Can be posted up by taller and stronger guards … His speed gives him a huge advantage in the open court, must continue to improve in the half court set … Must improve on his 1:1 A/TO ratio as a freshman ...

Aran Smith - 11/21/2006

Too small for NBA.
We already have Nate - the limit for midgets is reached.


[Edited by - arkrud on 03-02-2008 09:20 AM]
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3/2/2008  10:43 AM
D.J. Augustine is better.
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3/2/2008  11:22 AM
Jerryd Bayless, DeAndre Jordan, Donte Green or Eric Gordon.. In that order if Beasley or Rose are gone. In fact, Bayless might be better than Rose after its all said in done!

I am really hoping we draft him!!! Jerryd Bayless 6'3 182 Arizona.. Next PG of the NY Knicks
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3/2/2008  11:25 AM
Posted by Klytus:

D.J. Augustine is better.

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3/2/2008  12:56 PM
Collison is not the best guard prospect even at UCLA. Russell Westbrook is someone the Knicks should look at.
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3/2/2008  1:23 PM
Posted by JaydeeNYC:

Jerryd Bayless, DeAndre Jordan, Donte Green or Eric Gordon.. In that order if Beasley or Rose are gone. In fact, Bayless might be better than Rose after its all said in done!

I am really hoping we draft him!!! Jerryd Bayless 6'3 182 Arizona.. Next PG of the NY Knicks

Donte Greene is garbage.
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3/2/2008  1:38 PM
I'm starting to join Tyler Smith bandwagon... He might stay, but I was amazed by his awesome play against Memphis. Also, I love how his numbers have really improved, especially in areas of weakness from last season (except for a slight dip in FT) on fewer minutes played. (The NCAA granted him an eligibility exception from when he transferred from Iowa to Tennessee, so he could be near his sick dad).

Jerryd Bayless has to be the pick at number three though. He's grown on me throughout the season... even though I don't like "shoot-first points," which he is.

[Edited by - supremecommander on 03-02-2008 1:48 PM]
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3/2/2008  1:45 PM
If we got him he would not even get pt over Nate. Especially if Coach Eyebrows is still here. It would be like a wasted draft pick.
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3/2/2008  3:08 PM
Donte Greene is garbage.

Thats a matter of opinion.. I happen to think the kid is good, 6'10 do it all player; Plays Defense, (Man and Zone sets used mostly at Syracuse) above average perimeter scoring for a big, can play with his back to the basket.. and has a good coach that teaches how to play the game. He is exactly the type of player we could use IMO, why.. because he keeps opposing defenses honest. A Rashard Lewis type, less offense explosiveness.. but is a better individual defender!

I'd much rather have Bayless, or DeAndre Jordan based on need.. but if he were drafted by us... I wouldn't be disappointed.

Explain, why do you think he is garbage?



[Edited by - JaydeeNYC on 03-02-2008 3:17 PM]
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3/2/2008  3:13 PM
Posted by BigC:

If we got him he would not even get pt over Nate. Especially if Coach Eyebrows is still here. It would be like a wasted draft pick.

You can't draft a player this high.. talk about us needing a leader at the point guard position, banish your current starting point guard from appearing at games... and not give him PT. Would he start off top, probably not... But he certainly would get burn.

Jerryd Bayless is nice, is coming from a great collegiate basketball program and yes is more of a scorers point guard, but has proven to still be a playmaker when playing the PG position.
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3/2/2008  3:19 PM
Remember the "no more 6'8" power forward" cries of the early Isiah years?

I want a big team. Collins and Chandler are a good start and should friggin' play as many minutes as they can handle the rest of the year.

If we're going to go after smallish players this team will never crawl out of the toilet.

If Kiki comes in I think he'll embrace the Golden State model of tall agile players that can play multiple positions and Curry will fade into the background.
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If we don't get Derrick Rose or Beasley in the draft, then this is the kid we need !!

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