IN one sense I almost see that we should be more patient and let them work it out. I mean giving it half a season then bailing seems short sighted and impulsive given.

That would be reasonable if we thought that much brain power went into making this decision to begin with.

We could have bought out francis and kept Frye, who might have imporoved or at least was an asset at some level. Then we could have just dumped.

So many thought this was a bad Idea not because of Zach charactor, but his style of game when on the court with Eddy. So Zach in effect reduces Eddy and inhibits DLee.

On top of all the stupid things Isiah has done this really takes the cake.

If anything, you look to bring in assets to enhance what you have. Bring in a power forward to share min with DLee to open things up for Eddy and make him more effective, Bring in a point guard who has a talent for feeding the post, and bring in a sniper at the 3 for when it calls to open things up and spreat the defense.

I really don't love Crawford or Curry and don't think they have great value.

Daequan Cook
6-5 SG from Ohio State
7.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 20.0 minutes
Udonis Haslem
6-8 SF from Florida
12.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 1.5 apg in 37.4 minutes
Jason Williams
6-1 PG from Florida
8.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 4.8 apg in 31.1 minutes
Outgoing Players
Mardy Collins
6-6 SG from Temple
1.7 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.3 apg in 11.4 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG / PG from Michigan
20.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 41.7 minutes
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
13.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 26.6 minutes


I think this is a doable trade and I like what Haslem brings to the table and I think a lot of other teams do. It's an upgrade on defense you get another young asset and you shred contracts. You finish the year off you get your draft pick and you look to make trades in the offseason.

Miami

Crawford
Wade
Wright
Marion
Curry

Riley is known for making a lot questionable moves, this makes them a good team because of the defense and ability of wade and marion. You ask for another first round pick down the road i think they still would do it .

Knicks add Haslem/Cook to Balkman/Lee/Robinson/Chandler you shut Q down let him just relax and you play chandler 20 minutes a night along with the other young kids, don't take Zach off the floor let him build up any value and hope for Rose or Beasley and open up cap room, revamp the entire front office, coaching staff everyone gets fired.

if NY really is into dealing both with a full blown tank and rebuild in mind:

* Warriors have a 10 mill trade exception. any chance Zach is the small ball center Nellie is looking for?

Zach for Wright or O'Bryant and the T.E.

* Atlanta may want to stop relying on strictly jumpshots to win and may believe they have enough rebounding help D and athleticism on the front line with Smith and Horford to cover for Curry

Curry to the Hawks for Childress and Speedy

is it that or is Isiah asking for too much in return?

Posted by MS:

I really don't love Crawford or Curry and don't think they have great value.

Daequan Cook
6-5 SG from Ohio State
7.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 20.0 minutes
Udonis Haslem
6-8 SF from Florida
12.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 1.5 apg in 37.4 minutes
Jason Williams
6-1 PG from Florida
8.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 4.8 apg in 31.1 minutes
Outgoing Players
Mardy Collins
6-6 SG from Temple
1.7 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.3 apg in 11.4 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG / PG from Michigan
20.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 41.7 minutes
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
13.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 26.6 minutes


I think this is a doable trade and I like what Haslem brings to the table and I think a lot of other teams do. It's an upgrade on defense you get another young asset and you shred contracts. You finish the year off you get your draft pick and you look to make trades in the offseason.

Miami

Crawford
Wade
Wright
Marion
Curry

Riley is known for making a lot questionable moves, this makes them a good team because of the defense and ability of wade and marion. You ask for another first round pick down the road i think they still would do it .

Knicks add Haslem/Cook to Balkman/Lee/Robinson/Chandler you shut Q down let him just relax and you play chandler 20 minutes a night along with the other young kids, don't take Zach off the floor let him build up any value and hope for Rose or Beasley and open up cap room, revamp the entire front office, coaching staff everyone gets fired.

Haslem is far better than anything we're giving up. I can't see Miami doing that deal.

Posted by cooch2584:

I dont understand why your giving up Jamal. Hes our only scorer!!

Because we're trying to get a team to take back Curry.

And 25 wins is too many to shoot for.

And Crawford is never going to be part of a winning basketball team in NYC- not because he can't, but because we just won't have the all star talent while he is still in his prime.

Because MS hates Jamal more than anything in this world...well, hate to rain on your parade MS:

Going into tomorrow's game in Boston, the Knicks' last one before the All-Star break, Randolph is averaging 17 points and Curry has scored only 17 in the last two games combined, typical of his season-long struggles. The Knicks will not be represented by any players in New Orleans at the All-Star Game, only one season after the franchise touted Curry for a place on the East roster. But this season, Curry's scoring average has dropped from 19.5 points per game to 13.9, as his minutes have been cut, from 35 per game to only 26.

"The question is whether he's regressed or, is this it, he's not getting any better?" said the executive. "You have to remember, when Eddy came out of Chicago, he was regarded as someone who did not like to work and who did not like basketball. So do you blame Zach's presence, or do you say, Eddy doesn't have the upside the Knicks thought he had? In either case, the experiment with Zach has not worked."

The executives said that the Knicks want to hold onto several players, starting with David Lee and Nate Robinson, with Jamal Crawford also on that list.

Posted by cooch2584:

I dont understand why your giving up Jamal. Hes our only scorer!!

Jc may shoot alot, but in reality he is one of our worst scorers. And there-in-lies the problem.

you guys aren't trying to get cv ron ron or anyone else with any value
if this is the case we should get wallace and make no other moves until ofseason