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2/11/2008  7:31 AM
An NBA source said yesterday that Sixers executive vice president Larry Brown has drawn interest as a candidate for the Chicago Bulls' head coaching job. The Bulls fired Scott Skiles on Dec. 24. Three days later, Jim Boylan was named interim head coach for the rest of the season. Brown, a former Sixers coach for six years, has been out of coaching since the 2005-06 season, when he went 23-59 with the New York Knicks.

This is just what we need LB getting a chance to lock and load with the bulls , when we could have had him in NY.
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2/11/2008  8:31 AM
Good for LB. You don't have to love the guy, but it still rings true that the one guy with credibility and the one guy who had a reputation for turning things around was trashed in NY by an overpowered, underintelligent GM and owner. I think we will see whatever team he winds up coaching having a nice rise.
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2/11/2008  8:37 AM
Larry could get Wallace in the right direction and work with Ty Thomas if the kid lets him in his head.

Thats actually a good fit.

The only problem I see is I might find myself following the Bulls a bit, as I have also taken an interest in the Lakers, Blazers and the Suns!

I would be interesting to see what he could do with them. Pau and Shaq on new teams is also of great interest.

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2/11/2008  11:58 AM
Who's gonna be the first to tell us Larry Brown will want to trade Deng for Theo Ratliff.

I mean Steve Francis.
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2/11/2008  12:04 PM
I dont want Larry "overrated" Brown here. I think he is already satisfied with 30 million $ for "coaching" for a season here. The fact that Isiah is doing incredibly bad does not make his job (nor his attitude) in the Knicks look any better to me.
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2/11/2008  12:04 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Who's gonna be the first to tell us Larry Brown will want to trade Deng for Theo Ratliff.

I mean Steve Francis.

No not trade but rather...... waive Deng, Gordon, Hinrich, and Noch
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2/11/2008  12:16 PM
I think they will do what the pistons did- let him 'just' coach - and thats it. Personnel will be with Paxson. Its different wen you hve an 'establihed' GM - instead of a new (second/third) choice GM. Like the Pistons with Dumars- he will basically be asked to only coach- and you can be sure he won't be that highly paid either.
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2/11/2008  12:34 PM
It'll be a little thank you for helping them to get the #2 and #9
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2/11/2008  12:36 PM
Posted by iyamwutiam:

I think they will do what the pistons did- let him 'just' coach - and thats it. Personnel will be with Paxson. Its different wen you hve an 'establihed' GM - instead of a new (second/third) choice GM. Like the Pistons with Dumars- he will basically be asked to only coach- and you can be sure he won't be that highly paid either.

He'll probably get $6mil/yr and have the same clout he's had in the past for the most part. The only thing he won't be doing is making calls to other GM's in player trades. Which he probably didn't want to do it initially when he came here to coach but when he saw how much of PATHLOGICAL EGOTIST I SAY UGH truly was he started flexing his juice card. LB has had major influence with GM's he's worked under in the past, so don't think he'll be just some flunkie coach at his next gig.
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2/11/2008  12:47 PM
Posted by martin:

It'll be a little thank you for helping them to get the #2 and #9

At least they pretty much wasted both those picks. Paxson did a good job building a potential contender then proceeded to destroy it with stupid draft picks and signings and a reluctance to make the big splash needed to take them further.

GOOD I say. Let them rot with Ben Wallace I say. Let them sign Larry Brown to take them down even further!

Match made in HEAVEN imo (for us) and HELL for them (GOOD!)


Same old Larry: You can bet he sees the team falling apart, maybe this time will just bide his time while stinking it up, and convince the Bulls to fire Paxson and name him GM - something he has been coveting ever since Dumars told him to STFU on trade demands, ever since the Cavs said "we're only looking for a coach not for a GM Larry *click*, ever since he tried to pull the Knicks apart and also get dual role (which may have been for the best, but, the way he went about it SCREW HIM regardless of how bad Isiah has been).


So, yes, Larry to Chicago? Please....make it happen!!!!!
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2/11/2008  12:57 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by martin:

It'll be a little thank you for helping them to get the #2 and #9

At least they pretty much wasted both those picks. Paxson did a good job building a potential contender then proceeded to destroy it with stupid draft picks and signings and a reluctance to make the big splash needed to take them further.

GOOD I say. Let them rot with Ben Wallace I say. Let them sign Larry Brown to take them down even further!

Match made in HEAVEN imo (for us) and HELL for them (GOOD!)


Same old Larry: You can bet he sees the team falling apart, maybe this time will just bide his time while stinking it up, and convince the Bulls to fire Paxson and name him GM - something he has been coveting ever since Dumars told him to STFU on trade demands, ever since the Cavs said "we're only looking for a coach not for a GM Larry *click*, ever since he tried to pull the Knicks apart and also get dual role (which may have been for the best, but, the way he went about it SCREW HIM regardless of how bad Isiah has been).


So, yes, Larry to Chicago? Please....make it happen!!!!!


Cos you need to give LB a little more credit. Was he bad here? Of Course! With reason. He didn't give a Rats Ass after 25gms in because he saw how bad things truly was. Instead of letting I SAY UGH and Dolan push him around he pushed back in sabatoging type manner. What's funny LB supposedly is such a bad coach in many fans eyes here yet 2yrs removed from his time spent I SAY UGH with a better roster can barely keep pace with LB and he hasn't had near the roster tinkering or GM looking over his shoulder as LB had when he was here.

I remember Lenny Wilkens put it best reflecting on his situation he said "It was the worst mistake decision of my life accepting to come here as coach"

NUFF CED!



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2/11/2008  1:13 PM
What got Larry in trouble was his conduct and how he went about seeking change. Not his record, his conduct, and it rightfully got him tossed.

Now, to try a new way of explaining my POV I will put myself into LB's shoes.

I took the job knowing the roster was terrible and I'd need to have it torn down in order to succeed with it. My desire is to either have a yes-man GM at my disposal or to be GM myself.

Therefore I will coach the season, I will figure out who I truly like and dislike, and after a very poor season as the summer moves forward and Isiah is home grinning and stuffing his face with his crappy popcorn I will request a private meeting with Dolan and Mills.

I will go into that meeting telling them that in order for this team to be successful that major changes would be needed. I would explain to them that Isiah is in love with his roster but he is delusional in believing it would ever bring success. I would tell them that to allow Isiah to continue to make trades would just add to the misery (as it has) and would bring you even further from success.

I would suggest a FO change. I would express willingness to take over that task.


.........instead what did he do? We all know what he did no reason to write another essay detailing each and every despicable move.

Larry screwed up plain and simple. He did so many things you just never do as a professional in a huge organization and he rightfully got canned for it.

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2/11/2008  2:15 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

What got Larry in trouble was his conduct and how he went about seeking change. Not his record, his conduct, and it rightfully got him tossed.

Now, to try a new way of explaining my POV I will put myself into LB's shoes.

I took the job knowing the roster was terrible and I'd need to have it torn down in order to succeed with it. My desire is to either have a yes-man GM at my disposal or to be GM myself.

Therefore I will coach the season, I will figure out who I truly like and dislike, and after a very poor season as the summer moves forward and Isiah is home grinning and stuffing his face with his crappy popcorn I will request a private meeting with Dolan and Mills.

I will go into that meeting telling them that in order for this team to be successful that major changes would be needed. I would explain to them that Isiah is in love with his roster but he is delusional in believing it would ever bring success. I would tell them that to allow Isiah to continue to make trades would just add to the misery (as it has) and would bring you even further from success.

I would suggest a FO change. I would express willingness to take over that task.


.........instead what did he do? We all know what he did no reason to write another essay detailing each and every despicable move.

Larry screwed up plain and simple. He did so many things you just never do as a professional in a huge organization and he rightfully got canned for it.


I agree with the fact he should have got canned if we're vacuuming him, separating him from all the other faulty characters at MSG. I'm arguing the fact we all should know the guy can still coach and to act as if he'll sabotage at his next stop in a Knickesque fashion is comical. All 29 other NBA teams aren't ran like ours. He'll go back to being the LB most know he's capable of, is, and will be.
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2/11/2008  4:44 PM
Cos I'd also like to add thinking LB should/could have toed the company line going to Dolan at season's end, to express need for change and be listened to, is far fetched. Cheaney and for the most part Wilkens toed that line and got booted in embarrassing fashion. You think LB wanted to go out like a SAPP without doing some damage? I think not, but in the end LB should have reasoned his reputation was far more valuable than the PUTRID regime and should have held back some. I'm happy he got paid though and look forward to him getting back on the sideline.
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2/11/2008  4:47 PM
What's the point of firing Skiles and then replacing him with Larry? They're basically the same kind of coach.
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2/11/2008  4:57 PM
LB has won College ABA and NBA championships, that seperates him from many coaches...HE'S A HALL OF FAMER
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2/11/2008  10:56 PM
Posted by playa2:

LB has won College ABA and NBA championships, that seperates him from many coaches...HE'S A HALL OF FAMER

Ha...Ha...
Another HALL OF FAMER...
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2/12/2008  4:28 AM
I would love more than anything else at this time, for Brown to gain respect once again.
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2/12/2008  9:18 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Cos I'd also like to add thinking LB should/could have toed the company line going to Dolan at season's end, to express need for change and be listened to, is far fetched. Cheaney and for the most part Wilkens toed that line and got booted in embarrassing fashion. You think LB wanted to go out like a SAPP without doing some damage? I think not, but in the end LB should have reasoned his reputation was far more valuable than the PUTRID regime and should have held back some. I'm happy he got paid though and look forward to him getting back on the sideline.

Well consider that Larry was the big splash and given a five year deal I do believe he could have bit his tongue and not gotten fired for the season and maybe gotten his way in the end. We'll never know unfortunately. Not that I believe Larry was going to save this team but he would have probably at least tried to do what most of us want done now: Tear down the roster.

As to Larry himself I never really was a fan of his "antics" lets say. Even if he never came to New York I'd still feel the same: I just don't like him.

I agree with the fact he should have got canned if we're vacuuming him, separating him from all the other faulty characters at MSG. I'm arguing the fact we all should know the guy can still coach and to act as if he'll sabotage at his next stop in a Knickesque fashion is comical. All 29 other NBA teams aren't ran like ours. He'll go back to being the LB most know he's capable of, is, and will be.

Can he still coach? Sure....yet his methods do not mix well with today's NBA. He could take over for Pop or Sloan and probably be very successful. He'd be a disaster with say Orlando, Chicago, Denver. It would depend entirely on the makeup of the team and whether or not he could also play GM. It'd have to be a perfect marriage: Either players in place that can handle an 80s style coaching - OR - he'd have to be allowed to bring in his own guys.

Otherwise, forget about it, as we witnessed all too closely.

It's a shame the majority of the NBA is made up of spoiled little immature brats with no spines always just looking to whine --- YET --- that's what it is and that's why guys like JVG, Larry, Brain Hill, Skiles --- ARE FAILURES --- unless they walk into a situation that suits them perfectly (such as the Spurs or Jazz).

Whatcha gunna do.
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