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2/7/2008  12:56 PM
http://www.thestar.com/article/299119

NBA players' financial security no slam dunk
TheStar.com - Sports - NBA players' financial security no slam dunk

January 31, 2008
Dave Feschuk

It was a decade ago Kenny Anderson, then a Boston Celtics point guard, set a standard that has helped define the filthy-rich silliness of NBA players.

With the league two months into a lockout, Anderson lamented times were so tight, he might have to pare down his fleet of luxury automobiles.

He confided to The New York Times he owned eight cars, including a Porsche, a Lexus and a Range Rover. He was thinking of shedding a Benz.

Seen 10 years down a prosperous road, Anderson's parking garage looks downright quaint. With the average player's salary having approximately doubled in a decade to $5.36 million (U.S.), the definition of NBA excess has become, well, more excessive.

"I've seen (an NBA player) having two cars a day to drive. You know, 14 cars," said Raptors sharpshooter Jason Kapono the other day. "Think about how absurd it is. You say 14 cars. All right, you may have some kids, a family of nine. But a single guy having 14 cars?

"It's one thing if Bill Gates wants to do that. But when you're 22 years old and you don't even have kids yet, it's not good."

Kapono, then, wasn't the least bit surprised when a representative of the NBA Players' Association addressed the Raptors recently on matters of financial prudence. A statistic was cited during the meeting that startled some of the hoopsters. It was said that 60 per cent of retired NBA players go broke five years after their NBA paycheques stop arriving.

"How could that be?" said Jamario Moon, the Raptors rookie. "I don't want to believe that stat."

But that stat, used by the players' association to get the attention of young millionaires, is thought to be an educated estimate.

"Sixty per cent is a ballpark. But we've seen a lot of guys who've really come into hard times five years after they leave the league," said Roy Hinson, the former NBA forward who's a representative for the players' association. "The problems are, for a lot of guys, they have a lot of cars, they have multiple houses, they're taking care of their parents. They're taking care of a whole host of issues. And the cheques aren't coming in anymore."

Experienced players like Kapono, who has played on four different teams in his five-year tenure, were not surprised by the number.

"You see how guys live," said Kapono. "A lot of players get in trouble because they want everyone around them to lead the same lifestyle. So you fall into a hole. You buy this big house now for those people, and they no longer want to drive the low-end car to go with the big house. So the big house leads to the big car, to the better clothes, to the better restaurants and stuff. It's a snowball effect. That's why the stat isn't as shocking, because I've witnessed it."

It's not just the spending, it's the scamming. Hinson – who, as it happens, said he knows of a current NBA player who owns 15 cars – said unwitting athletes have been charged as much as $5,000 a month for bill-paying services and as much as a $100,000 to have their taxes prepared by unscrupulous agents and business managers.

"If you never check up on someone," said Raptors guard Darrick Martin, "you become a target."

Public stories of NBAers in financial trouble occasionally make headlines. Back in October, Jason Caffey, who made an estimated $29 million during his eight-year NBA career, was in bankruptcy court seeking protection from his creditors, among them the seven women with whom he fathered eight children. And late last year Latrell Sprewell, who famously turned up his nose at a $21 million contract offer – "I've got to feed my family," was the money quote – had a yacht worth more than $1 million repossessed.

Hinson said the problems go far deeper than the headlines. The players' association has long recommended a financial firm that offers players free second opinions on their financial particulars, but getting players to act is a challenge.

"Sometimes you can stop the bleeding, and other times you can't stop the bleeding," said Hinson, who added that many players associate with "too many `yes' people."

"Sometimes you need someone to say, `No, you can't buy that.' I fell prey to that myself, and I know a lot of people I played with who had the same problem," said Hinson, whose 10-year career ended in the early 1990s.

"It takes a strong constitution and a good team of advisors around you to make sure you're doing the right things."

Common sense and honest advocates are sometimes in short supply in NBA circles, but they do exist.

"My approach is I want to enjoy my life for the long term, and I want my family and my kids to be able to enjoy it," said Kapono, 26. "So there's a fine line between extravagance and having fun and enjoying it at a reasonable rate.

"Going above and beyond isn't worth it. I don't want to be a part of that 60 per cent that's in trouble five years down the road. It's a short career and I'm blessed to be earning a great salary playing basketball. But if it ended, my contract only takes me to age 30. Life expectancy is 80-plus. So I've got another 50 years.

"Do I really need to buy another car?"

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playa2
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2/7/2008  1:01 PM
Now I see why Gold diggers make off like a bandit.
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2/7/2008  1:07 PM
its called stupid
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2/7/2008  1:13 PM
I am not suprised.. these guys spend money as if it is monopoly money and then 10 years they wonder where it all went... big spending, lavish living, can easily run through millions.. along with taxes and other crap too..
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2/7/2008  1:23 PM
When you sign a contract it doesnt include a brain transplant.
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2/7/2008  1:27 PM
Where are their parents in all of this , I mean where is the guidance.
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2/7/2008  1:27 PM
Ever watch MTV cribs?

Just their body language.....also you can see the "family" in the episodes just sitting around. Thats alot of plugs in that wall socket, you know?

No freakin way man. Family can use me for help but not to live like a king. no way......thats long money. you have to invest, and open businesses. You can only help people that can help themselves. It's a damn shame....

Maybe the guys should take business classes in college.....instead of african american studies or broadcasting. Nonsense.
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2/7/2008  1:29 PM
I think i've found my next career. Financial planner for NBA players.
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2/7/2008  1:50 PM
Posted by playa2:

Where are their parents in all of this , I mean where is the guidance.

thier parents are spending half the money lol
thats the only reason they had these brain dead kids lol
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2/7/2008  5:28 PM
Single parent homes with no kind of decent upbringing has to be the cause of why the value of money isn't taking serious by these young men.
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2/7/2008  5:50 PM
their broke cuz they got to feed thier famillys
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2/7/2008  8:30 PM
Posted by playa2:

Single parent homes with no kind of decent upbringing has to be the cause of why the value of money isn't taking serious by these young men.

You hit it right on the head playa. A lot of these guys come out of poverty and get almost no education and no guidance. Heck, their parents and their parents parents probably are the same, so if they have no motivation to go to classes and their teachers are just doing whatever the coaches want, then these kids are learning NOTHING except how to play basketball and banging chicks. Then suddenly they got the scouts kissing their arses and agents doing the same and what happens? They get the big bucks after living a life of educationless poverty. OF COURSE these guys are going to spend everything they have. They got chicks up on their left, right, and being sandwiched. For a lot of these kids, it's destiny b/c they flat out don't know better.

It's sad but the reality and it probably isn't going to change unless if either we cut down on the agent and force these kids to go to school for more years, OR give these kids not nearly as much media attention.
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2/7/2008  8:41 PM
a while ago david stern proposed a retirement fund when they were negotiating the CBA. the idea was that a percentage of a players' pay would be put into a retirement fund that they could draw from to cover the time between retirement and when their pension kicks in. I don't know the exact details of the proposal but it was rejected by the players union.

players aren't learning financial responsibility, like some have said they get caught up in living the high society life style and don't invest any money.

I think the NBA needs to implement some kind of program on financial education during rookie orientation that educates them on ways to start investing their money. I know that they already educate the players on the more common sophisticated scams that they should be aware of, but players are still throwing their money away.

or someone should just show them tape of TJ Ford whiplashing his spine and see that you could go from being a millionaire to possibly never playing again in an instant in their profession.

but at least it's not as bad as the NFL's so called pension system, which is a complete disgrace and is finally getting exposed
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2/7/2008  8:57 PM
This guys are very good consumers.
They do good things for US economy.
They are real American patriots. We need more people like this.
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2/7/2008  10:25 PM
There should be a 401K plan being offered along with some sort of pension/match contribution that goes to the plan. If players are too dumb to have an FA, assign one to them like a social worker or something. Or just have a target retirement plan that is actively managed based on a players age.
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2/8/2008  12:24 AM
Sebestain Telfair better stop buying $20,000 chains to wear at the clubs. The way his career has imploded- He'll literally be on the street in 2 years.

But we can always see him at the Sunday Summer games at the Orchad Beach basketball courts in the Bronx right?
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2/11/2008  7:11 PM
Posted by playa2:

http://www.thestar.com/article/299119

NBA players' financial security no slam dunk
TheStar.com - Sports - NBA players' financial security no slam dunk

January 31, 2008
Dave Feschuk

It was a decade ago Kenny Anderson, then a Boston Celtics point guard, set a standard that has helped define the filthy-rich silliness of NBA players.

With the league two months into a lockout, Anderson lamented times were so tight, he might have to pare down his fleet of luxury automobiles.

He confided to The New York Times he owned eight cars, including a Porsche, a Lexus and a Range Rover. He was thinking of shedding a Benz.

Seen 10 years down a prosperous road, Anderson's parking garage looks downright quaint. With the average player's salary having approximately doubled in a decade to $5.36 million (U.S.), the definition of NBA excess has become, well, more excessive.

"I've seen (an NBA player) having two cars a day to drive. You know, 14 cars," said Raptors sharpshooter Jason Kapono the other day. "Think about how absurd it is. You say 14 cars. All right, you may have some kids, a family of nine. But a single guy having 14 cars?

"It's one thing if Bill Gates wants to do that. But when you're 22 years old and you don't even have kids yet, it's not good."

Kapono, then, wasn't the least bit surprised when a representative of the NBA Players' Association addressed the Raptors recently on matters of financial prudence. A statistic was cited during the meeting that startled some of the hoopsters. It was said that 60 per cent of retired NBA players go broke five years after their NBA paycheques stop arriving.

"How could that be?" said Jamario Moon, the Raptors rookie. "I don't want to believe that stat."

But that stat, used by the players' association to get the attention of young millionaires, is thought to be an educated estimate.

"Sixty per cent is a ballpark. But we've seen a lot of guys who've really come into hard times five years after they leave the league," said Roy Hinson, the former NBA forward who's a representative for the players' association. "The problems are, for a lot of guys, they have a lot of cars, they have multiple houses, they're taking care of their parents. They're taking care of a whole host of issues. And the cheques aren't coming in anymore."

Experienced players like Kapono, who has played on four different teams in his five-year tenure, were not surprised by the number.

"You see how guys live," said Kapono. "A lot of players get in trouble because they want everyone around them to lead the same lifestyle. So you fall into a hole. You buy this big house now for those people, and they no longer want to drive the low-end car to go with the big house. So the big house leads to the big car, to the better clothes, to the better restaurants and stuff. It's a snowball effect. That's why the stat isn't as shocking, because I've witnessed it."

It's not just the spending, it's the scamming. Hinson – who, as it happens, said he knows of a current NBA player who owns 15 cars – said unwitting athletes have been charged as much as $5,000 a month for bill-paying services and as much as a $100,000 to have their taxes prepared by unscrupulous agents and business managers.

"If you never check up on someone," said Raptors guard Darrick Martin, "you become a target."

Public stories of NBAers in financial trouble occasionally make headlines. Back in October, Jason Caffey, who made an estimated $29 million during his eight-year NBA career, was in bankruptcy court seeking protection from his creditors, among them the seven women with whom he fathered eight children. And late last year Latrell Sprewell, who famously turned up his nose at a $21 million contract offer – "I've got to feed my family," was the money quote – had a yacht worth more than $1 million repossessed.

Hinson said the problems go far deeper than the headlines. The players' association has long recommended a financial firm that offers players free second opinions on their financial particulars, but getting players to act is a challenge.

"Sometimes you can stop the bleeding, and other times you can't stop the bleeding," said Hinson, who added that many players associate with "too many `yes' people."

"Sometimes you need someone to say, `No, you can't buy that.' I fell prey to that myself, and I know a lot of people I played with who had the same problem," said Hinson, whose 10-year career ended in the early 1990s.

"It takes a strong constitution and a good team of advisors around you to make sure you're doing the right things."

Common sense and honest advocates are sometimes in short supply in NBA circles, but they do exist.

"My approach is I want to enjoy my life for the long term, and I want my family and my kids to be able to enjoy it," said Kapono, 26. "So there's a fine line between extravagance and having fun and enjoying it at a reasonable rate.

"Going above and beyond isn't worth it. I don't want to be a part of that 60 per cent that's in trouble five years down the road. It's a short career and I'm blessed to be earning a great salary playing basketball. But if it ended, my contract only takes me to age 30. Life expectancy is 80-plus. So I've got another 50 years.

"Do I really need to buy another car?"

I guess mewell fits that catergory. Somewhere I got to believe James Dolan is chuckling

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2/11/2008  11:00 PM
Posted by Starks1994:

Sebestain Telfair better stop buying $20,000 chains to wear at the clubs. The way his career has imploded- He'll literally be on the street in 2 years.

But we can always see him at the Sunday Summer games at the Orchad Beach basketball courts in the Bronx right?

Finishing bbal career is not the end of life.
Some of this mofos will still get cache for 20K chains...
Or may be get the bullet in the head...
But it's OK - dead people don’t need jewelry





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2/12/2008  3:55 AM
I personally don't care about rich guys or gold diggers. All I wanna know is 'what have you done for me lately'? Some people act like it's their' money.
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2/12/2008  9:07 AM
Posted by simrud:

There should be a 401K plan being offered along with some sort of pension/match contribution that goes to the plan. If players are too dumb to have an FA, assign one to them like a social worker or something. Or just have a target retirement plan that is actively managed based on a players age.

Only problem with 401k is the limit is, I believe, $15k per year. NBA players could put that away and not blink. The reality is that they'd have to have additional savings accounts, because the 401k alone doesn't do enough with the salaries they're making. It certainly would be a start, though.

I always find it funny when you pick up the paper once or twice a year and the front page talks about low test scores in history. The reality is that what they should be worried about is making sure every single kid is financially intelligent.
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