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Panos
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2/5/2008  9:58 AM
1. Garden roared louder last night for 3 non-key Giants in attendence yesterday than I've heard the Garden get in many years. Hear that Knicks/Isiah? That could be yours too, if you weren't so fugazy...
2. Speaking of fugazy... Tim Thomas, man, even seeing him on the Clippers, such a crying shame that he's such a lazy ass puss. He's so agile for a guy 6'10", it's really criminal that he lets it go to waste. Just glad he's outta here.
3. David Lee. For all you wanted to make fans' support of David Lee a racial thing, I'll have you know that the 2 guys in my section screaming loudest for David to come in the game whenever he was on the bench were African American.
4. This is the 6th game I've been to this year. All losses...
5. And while I think Isiah, Marbury, JJ1 and PussCurry deserve all their boos, I do feel bad for the likes of JJ2 (even tho he sucks), Mardy, etc. role players that are just deer caught in the headlights, and could just as well have lived quiet lives on the bench in some other town.

Just my musings... Earl, pass the donuts...
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2/5/2008  3:35 PM
The interesting thing to me is the only people who don't like David Lee, are the so-called ardent "lovers" (I freaking hate that term) and supports of Isiah. They only criticize him to be contrary to the people who are critical of Isiah.
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2/5/2008  3:42 PM
Why do you still attend games?
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2/5/2008  4:04 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Why do you still attend games?

I assume because tickets were bought before the bottom completely fell out.

Next season is when they see a dramatic drop in attendance.
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2/5/2008  4:08 PM
I cannot see any problem with people criticize DLee
He has flaws in his game he must work on.
Shooting, defense, post up...
It is all up to him to advance from OK player, he already is, to good player and even, who knows, solid player.
He is THE FUTURE.
Isiah, marbs, eddy, zack, craf all are the PAST.
Their train is long gone and some ghosts are still roaming around.
Please God let them go and stop their and our suffering
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Panos
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2/5/2008  4:13 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by GKFv2:

Why do you still attend games?

I assume because tickets were bought before the bottom completely fell out.

Next season is when they see a dramatic drop in attendance.

Correct. And, while the "lovers" have criticized me for "hating" on this sh!tty team, orange and blue still in my veins. So I bought tickets, while they read the box score and pass donuts. No matter, I just chant "Fire Isiah," doing my part to hasten that day's arrival.

Also, you often can't REALLY tell how a team plays together on TV. TV really isolates the view on a single player at a time. And until Marbs left, this team was ABYSSMAL at playing as a team. Now the bench is getting more minutes, and there is more effort and more teamwork.


[Edited by - panos on 05-02-2008 4:15 PM]
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2/5/2008  4:29 PM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by GKFv2:

Why do you still attend games?

I assume because tickets were bought before the bottom completely fell out.

Next season is when they see a dramatic drop in attendance.

Correct. And, while the "lovers" have criticized me for "hating" on this sh!tty team, orange and blue still in my veins. So I bought tickets, while they read the box score and pass donuts. No matter, I just chant "Fire Isiah," doing my part to hasten that day's arrival.

Also, you often can't REALLY tell how a team plays together on TV. TV really isolates the view on a single player at a time. And until Marbs left, this team was ABYSSMAL at playing as a team. Now the bench is getting more minutes, and there is more effort and more teamwork.


[Edited by - panos on 05-02-2008 4:15 PM]

I think people would prefer you stay and boo from home next season and not waste any money donating to Dolan's bank account.
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Panos
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2/5/2008  4:37 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by Panos:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by GKFv2:

Why do you still attend games?

I assume because tickets were bought before the bottom completely fell out.

Next season is when they see a dramatic drop in attendance.

Correct. And, while the "lovers" have criticized me for "hating" on this sh!tty team, orange and blue still in my veins. So I bought tickets, while they read the box score and pass donuts. No matter, I just chant "Fire Isiah," doing my part to hasten that day's arrival.

Also, you often can't REALLY tell how a team plays together on TV. TV really isolates the view on a single player at a time. And until Marbs left, this team was ABYSSMAL at playing as a team. Now the bench is getting more minutes, and there is more effort and more teamwork.


[Edited by - panos on 05-02-2008 4:15 PM]

I think people would prefer you stay and boo from home next season and not waste any money donating to Dolan's bank account.


"People" would prefer?
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2/5/2008  4:40 PM
Posted by VDesai:

The interesting thing to me is the only people who don't like David Lee, are the so-called ardent "lovers" (I freaking hate that term) and supports of Isiah. They only criticize him to be contrary to the people who are critical of Isiah.

Nobody doesn't like David Lee.
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2/5/2008  5:26 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by VDesai:

The interesting thing to me is the only people who don't like David Lee, are the so-called ardent "lovers" (I freaking hate that term) and supports of Isiah. They only criticize him to be contrary to the people who are critical of Isiah.

Nobody doesn't like David Lee.


I think he's referring to the people who don't like that people like Lee better than Zach.
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2/5/2008  5:35 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by VDesai:

The interesting thing to me is the only people who don't like David Lee, are the so-called ardent "lovers" (I freaking hate that term) and supports of Isiah. They only criticize him to be contrary to the people who are critical of Isiah.

Nobody doesn't like David Lee.


I think he's referring to the people who don't like that people like Lee better than Zach.

This is wrong to say that some people better that others.
People are all same in what they can become but not all of them actually become something.
Both Lee and Zack are young man and they still have equal chance...






[Edited by - arkrud on 02-05-2008 5:35 PM]
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2/5/2008  5:39 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by VDesai:

The interesting thing to me is the only people who don't like David Lee, are the so-called ardent "lovers" (I freaking hate that term) and supports of Isiah. They only criticize him to be contrary to the people who are critical of Isiah.

Nobody doesn't like David Lee.


I think he's referring to the people who don't like that people like Lee better than Zach.

you guys hit arkrud-speak nail on the proverbial head.
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2/5/2008  5:53 PM
Posted by Panos:


4. This is the 6th game I've been to this year. All losses...

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I just hope that people will like me
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2/5/2008  6:27 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by GKFv2:

Why do you still attend games?

I assume because tickets were bought before the bottom completely fell out.

Next season is when they see a dramatic drop in attendance.

The knicks will still be among the top teams as far as attendance just because of the location and the enviroment.
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Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by VDesai:

The interesting thing to me is the only people who don't like David Lee, are the so-called ardent "lovers" (I freaking hate that term) and supports of Isiah. They only criticize him to be contrary to the people who are critical of Isiah.

Nobody doesn't like David Lee.


I think he's referring to the people who don't like that people like Lee better than Zach.

Lee is a tad bit over-rated, he is a poor man zachs. Zach can flat out score from evry part of the floor, and can flat out rebound as well as lee. But both have a low IQ and can not play defense well enough to be consider good all around players.

Im sure if you had a choice between Marcus Camby and David Lee (niether has a play design for them) you would go with camby even if they were the same age.
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2/5/2008  7:42 PM
Posted by knicks1248:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by VDesai:

The interesting thing to me is the only people who don't like David Lee, are the so-called ardent "lovers" (I freaking hate that term) and supports of Isiah. They only criticize him to be contrary to the people who are critical of Isiah.

Nobody doesn't like David Lee.


I think he's referring to the people who don't like that people like Lee better than Zach.

Lee is a tad bit over-rated, he is a poor man zachs. Zach can flat out score from evry part of the floor, and can flat out rebound as well as lee. But both have a low IQ and can not play defense well enough to be consider good all around players.

Im sure if you had a choice between Marcus Camby and David Lee (niether has a play design for them) you would go with camby even if they were the same age.

Of course I would, by a long shot. But that's not here nor there, because I'd take Camby by a long shot over Zach too.
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2/6/2008  1:08 PM
Posted by Panos:


3. David Lee. For all you wanted to make fans' support of David Lee a racial thing, I'll have you know that the 2 guys in my section screaming loudest for David to come in the game whenever he was on the bench were African American.

Hey man, while clearly Lee's popularity is linked to his play, and other factors, I think this example uses some logic that doesn't quite tell the whole story, and is a misrepresentation of the issue raised about race and David Lee's popularity. Seeing African-Americans cheering loudest for Lee does not necessarily nullify the argument that whites may be more inclined to like Lee than others.

There is plenty of research that demonstrates there is such racial preference and that we aren't really as "color blind." I would love the world to be that way, but I just don't think we should kid ourselves into thinking it's not a factor.
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2/6/2008  1:16 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by VDesai:

The interesting thing to me is the only people who don't like David Lee, are the so-called ardent "lovers" (I freaking hate that term) and supports of Isiah. They only criticize him to be contrary to the people who are critical of Isiah.

Nobody doesn't like David Lee.

There are few people here who are hypercrtical/one-note on Lee the same way people are on Curry. I think the people who do that with Curry go overboard too, but at least with Curry you have a lazy player who is obviously underachieving. Lee brings the most positives to this team of any player.
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