It seems that the Kniks are the only ones with massive expiring contracts- particuarly Marbury. So this may be the best time for the Knicks to be the middle man in a trade for Kidd. The way I see it - there is only one tyeam -with resources to make it happen- Phoenix. Boston is tapped out - and if they do want to go over the cap they would have done it already. San Antonio has an MVP of the finals PG- so I don't think Kidd is going there. Dallas- may be a wildcard since according to hoops hype they have both Finley and Shaun Bradley (18.5+5.5) -who expire this year - but I have a feeling the Nets want some players as well- and it's not happening - in terms of anyone good- Devin Harris, Jason Terry etc - they really don't want to mess with their depth. http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

So the Knicks could:
1. Marbury + Lee+ Balkman + Cash - for Kidd and Boone and two first round picks (protected)- the nets get two players-we get a decent center/pf -who can actually shoot and also gets rebounds etc. We give up Balkman - who can't dribble or shoot or take it one on one to the hoop during a fast break (Lakers game-pitiful). Also - the Nets get their two first round NBA ready picks NOW.

2. We take Kidd and do one fo two scenarios:

a. Trade to dallas for the expiring contracts of Finley+ Bradley and give them Kidd and GET two late round first round pick.
b. Trade to Kidd to Phoenix + Cash + Q Richardson and Collins for Boris Diaw and two late round first picks.

As I said - since the Knicks are one of the few orgainzations that can actually take a financial hit (proven by being over the salary cap for the LAST 20 YEARS- this would be a great way to dump salary and get picks. We are going to lose either 2009 or 2010 pick to Utah - so might as well use the deep pockets of Dolan - to pick dump Marbs and pick up Boone and 2 picks from the nets since we in effect are giving them two first round picjks that are ready to play right away.

Dallas- means that by the end of this season we save 23 M- instead of waiting next year and get atleast 4 draft picks - two from Dallas and two from the Nets- everone wins- especially us!!

Phoenix although we pick up the long term contract of Diaw - he definitely better than both Lee and Balkman - in tersm of offense, passing etc. He would be perfect - because they ball handling would be spread out between Nate/Craw and Diaw - always giving us a ballhandler.

We will still have Malik's expiring contract end of next year- and by reducing the roster - we get more playing time for Mo Randolph and Wilson Chandler.

[Edited by - iyamwutiam on 01-30-2008 6:40 PM]

[Edited by - iyamwutiam on 01-30-2008 6:51 PM]

1. Knicks only have Fred Jones and Randolph Morris as expiring contracts!
2. Bradley retired right?
3. Your trades to Dallas and PHX don't work under the collective bargaining agreement.

I would keep Jones, Randolph, M Rose- that way we are really under the cap in a hurry.

how do u figure when it's gonna be 3 more years til Zach's contract comes off the books? we also have Curry, Jamal, Jefferies, Turd & Q's contracts to deal with also... the Knicks aren't getting under the cap in any hurry as long as we still have Zach's albatross contract combined w/those other guys.

Posted by kam77:

u cant trade a retired player

i think