Posted by Solace:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by McK1:
Camby's stats are great but...
D West is 1-a putting up 19 and 9 with 2+ assists and a 1+ blocks on the team with the 2nd best record in the West at 32-13.
Dirk is putting up 22 and 9 with 3+ assists and a block on the team with the 3rd best record at 31-13.
Boozer and Amare are having great statistical seasons as well plus their teams are in FIRST in their divisions and Amare's team has the best record at 33-13.
[Edited by - McK1 on 31-01-2008 8:50 PM]
Denver is 27-18. Melo has missed 5gms and are a 7th seed and a 1/2gm out of the division lead and have led the Division I believe most of the season. What else would Camby have to do to get voted in? If any other player not named Camby produce Camby's numbers they're in and we all know it.
I happy for West because it shows coaches are trying to recognize everyone but the system is about as unjust as it gets.
Portland went on that crazy run and held 1st in the division till Utah's latest surge.
the coaches don't hate Camby. Overall West is having a better season - he has got the points rebounds defensive numbers team record deserving of all-star status.
in a stacked West garbage points and cheating from the weakside D do not an all-star make
[Edited by - McK1 on 31-01-2008 9:41 PM]
Dude he was voted DPOY last yr, so no his play on the court isn't viewed as chump and cheating. He'll probably win it this yr. No way a player who's in the Top 2 considerations for a major Post-Season award, should not be an All-Star. And stop acting as if Camby can't put up points. He plays with two pretty good ball hogs. You've heard of them right? Allen Iverson and Carmelo Anthony. I know if West played with A.I. and Melo his numbers wouldn't be close to where they are now, but if Camby played with Paul his would stay the same if not possibly be better offensively. I'm not arguing Camby should take West's spot at all, I'm saying there's no way he should not be on it.
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-31-2008 10:19 PM]
Agreed. And let's be realistic: Camby is having a better statistical season than West. West is simply contributing more to a better team.
To me, the problem is as it's always been, just like the casual fan, the first stat that you see is points. So they weigh points and the others just fall off the page. To me it's insane, but it's the only explanation as to why Camby is not on the All-Star team. If we can't reward the defensive player of the year for having a sadistic season, then the league is hopeless.
Regardless of whose spot Camby should take, there's no way you can make that team and not have Camby on it.
[Edited by - Solace on Feb 01 2008 07:23 AM]
It's PURE GARBAGE and I remember distinctly Solace you and I had a conversation on how bad this process is. And the fact it would expose itself once more as a Fraud. Here we have the league using different criteria again. Back when the Pistons had the best record in the league 2-3yrs ago, the coaches/league reasoned "Hey We Got To Get As Many Pistons In As Possible Because They Have The Best Record In The League", there was tons of lobbying at the time. Now we're seeing a different criteria like with the Celtics. Ray Allen is having an All-Star Caliber season. His stats don't blow you away or anything but the Celtics have the best record in the league and Ray's numbers are good, but he didn't get in. It's believed the league didn't want to have 3 Celtics get in and have someone else get snubbed, well how come they didn't use this reasoning a couple yrs ago? This was also repeated assessing the results from the WCAS, can't have 3 Nuggets get in because 3 Celtics didn't get in. Honestly this exhibition game isn't about the fans, but more so who the league wants to get in an Promote.
I found it very fishy too that when T-Mac admitted he didn't deserve to be an All-Star. He didn't want to be one this season looking at how his season has gone after being a leading Top vote getter for almost 2mos straight. Allen Iverson's votes all of a sudden with 1-2days left to vote overtakes T-Mac. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? No one is being fooled by all this crap at least I'm not.
I also have a problem with players have Kick Tail seasons on bad teams who can't in because their teams have losing records. IMO All-Star means best player at various positions regardless of record. W's should be an added incentive . Seriously let's say Kevin Garnett's popularity wasn't as high as it has been particularly the last 3 seasons. Does anyone honestly believe if he didn't get voted in by the Fans the coaches would have snubbed him because he was on a losing team in Minnesota?
Would Camby have got in if the All-Star game wasn't in New Orleans?
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-01-2008 10:26 AM]
1/31/2008 7:49 PM