Posted by Cosmic:

I have to ask though: What place would any of those type players serve on a team that's in "win now" mode? Would they even play? Why would they when our own potential diamonds are buried on our own bench?

Balkman
Mardy
Morris
Chandler

???????

[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-01-2008 11:49 AM]

Posted by EnySpree:

Lowry just put up a double double off the bench for Memphis......those guys are unfairly benching that kid for pretty boy Conley.......Lowry was benched for Damon now they have no use for him cuz the sweet conley is back. Fuck conley.......Lowry was hurt by the unfair benching and his production showed for a few weeks.....that kid is a good player. Fuck Memphis for messing around with this kid.

Again, my boy Charlie continues to put up numbers in minimal minutes.....last night the dude had starters numbers with minutes in the teens......**** the Bucks for benching Charlie Villenueva! That Yi guy is a bum. Charlie is not soft or a bust! The Bucks are beotches.

Posted by bigbeast:

Here you go ENY:

Kyle Lowry (defensive terror, bulldog strong, pass first leader)

Hilton Armstrong (capable of putting up Josh Boone #'s but is more athletic)

Gerald Greene (athletic freak. Call him a bust if you want, but her never got consitant chance to show what he can do)

Justin Williams (good rebounder, defender/shotblocker. Plays with intensity and passion. Would be a good match nes=xt to Randolph.)

Sergio Rodriguez (good pass first pg prospect)

Marcus Williams (if Thorn is serious about resigning Kidd, Williams may be available. Rumor is he was already offerd to Indy in a package)

Hakim Warrick (a bit of a tweener Pf/Sf but is a long athlete is is good on the boards, can block a shot and is a terrifc finisher. Also has excellent foot work on the blocks)

Tyrus Thomas (Seems to be in the dog house.)

Morris Almond (still a rook, but with Kover, Brewer, and CJ Miles...where is the playing time for Almond?)
add on...

[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-01-2008 11:27 AM]

[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-01-2008 11:32 AM]

[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-01-2008 11:34 AM]

Posted by Anji:

Most of those guys are on the bench for a reason...........

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by Finestrg:

Posted by bigbeast:

Here you go ENY:

Kyle Lowry (defensive terror, bulldog strong, pass first leader)

Hilton Armstrong (capable of putting up Josh Boone #'s but is more athletic)

Gerald Greene (athletic freak. Call him a bust if you want, but her never got consitant chance to show what he can do)

Justin Williams (good rebounder, defender/shotblocker. Plays with intensity and passion. Would be a good match nes=xt to Randolph.)

Sergio Rodriguez (good pass first pg prospect)

Marcus Williams (if Thorn is serious about resigning Kidd, Williams may be available. Rumor is he was already offerd to Indy in a package)

Hakim Warrick (a bit of a tweener Pf/Sf but is a long athlete is is good on the boards, can block a shot and is a terrifc finisher. Also has excellent foot work on the blocks)

Tyrus Thomas (Seems to be in the dog house.)

Morris Almond (still a rook, but with Kover, Brewer, and CJ Miles...where is the playing time for Almond?)
add on...

[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-01-2008 11:27 AM]

[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-01-2008 11:32 AM]

[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-01-2008 11:34 AM]

BINGO! Excellent, excellent post Big.

I basically agree with all these guys (I'm not a huge Warrick fan though - not sure he's a real diamond in the rough, but he's useful in a Renaldo Balkman sorta way, no doubt).

These are all the type of guys we should be interested in right now. No question about it. Too bad we have a GM/Team President that has absolutely no idea (A) how to properly evaluate talent, at least at the NBA level (even his draft selections have been questionable), and (B) how to identify team weaknesses and plug holes, either from within (Chandler/Balkman for Richardson, Randolph Morris for Curry, etc...) or via trade with young up-and-coming talent that might not be part of someone else's plans right now, but definitely someone we can use, like the guys on your list.

There's no way around this - this team will continue to flounder save for a brief, flukey hot steak here and there (that does nothing but adversely affect out crucial draft position) or get even worse (the thoughts of adding guys like T-Mac, Damon Stoudamire, etc. just make me cringe) as long as Isiah's at the helm. The proof is in the pudding - he's finished building this team and guess what? --- we're not even close to being a winner or becoming a winner anytime soon. Save for a nice piece here and there like a David Lee, he's failed miserably in putting this thing together. We need the type of guy in here now that will break this thing down, be patient and start to accumulate the type of low-cost, high reward/big potential talent bigbeast is talking about here. And if that doesn't happen anytime soon, this team's not even worth discussing anymore.



[Edited by - finestrg on 01-26-2008 2:54 PM]

My main objective would be for the Knicks to acquire another first round pick. But that aint happening. We dont have the resources to acquire a first rounder unless we are willing to move Lee.

Thats why I feel trying to acquire young, low risk/high reward player is the route we need to be looking into. These players are similar to picking up an additional draft pick. These players are young, and have yet to reach thier full potential due to inconsistant playing time.

Unfortunately, with Isiah recently saying that we need a KG, we can expect another starphuck type trade this summer