We've won 6 of our last 10 games. 5 of 7 if you wish to narrow it down. 14 of 42 if you choose to be realistic. Whichever you choose this is what's coming up:

AT Warriors 26-18
AT Lakers 27-14
AT Utah 25-18
AT Portland 25-18
AT Seattle 9-34

This will tell if the team is actually waking up or if it's just an opportunistic road that we took advantage of.

That road was:

W - 89-65, VS Detroit
Played 4 out of 5 nights on the road, including an overtime the night before, got into NYC at 4am.

W - 105-93, VS Washington
Played 4 out of 5 nights including the night before beating the Celtics, got into NYC at 2am the earliest.

W - 111-105, AT New Jersey.
We've had their number this year strange as it seems. They have lost their last 8 games - they aren't very good at all.

L - 98-111, AT Washington.

W - 88-84, AT Miami.
Miami sucks. Enough said.

L - 93-109, VS Boston.
Boston is formidable. Know what that means? Formidable? Look it up!



Now, lets look at what everyone is clamoring about this morning. We're 3 games out of the 8th seed with 40 games to go!

Indiana at 19-25 is presently holding the 8th seed. If you focus just on Indiana as a benchmark for success this would mean they could win 35 games and be the 8th seed.

So, for New York to win the 8th seed from them we must win 36 games. We would have to go 22-18 the rest of the way to achieve that goal.

However, you can not look at Indiana anymore for they are falling apart winning only 3 of their last 7 games.

What you must look at is other teams still above us who are also catching Indiana. Charlotte has won 5 of it's last 10. Chicago has won 4 of it's last 10.

It's not about who is presently in the 8th seed it's about everyone above us that we must leap frog.

That's a very tall order for a team who wishes the past week or so was indeed representative of it's actual season long success. However, it is not, and I have a strong feeling once this west coast swing is over you will see how tough it would be for the Knicks to make the playoffs.

Standing at 14-28 is nothing to be proud of no matter how you slice it. Just because Indiana is the 8th seed and they suck which has led to us being "only 3 games out" that really is not anything to be proud of.

What has happened to the Knick fan base where just making the playoffs, even if it means 35 wins will do it in a terrible conference, is the ultimate satisfaction?



Just trying to put things into perspective here........I still see nothing to get all excited about regardless of winning five of our last seven games. Try winning 15 of 21. That's what it's going to take, anyway, for them to really get going here in the standings.

Posted by Cosmic:

Standing at 14-28 is nothing to be proud of no matter how you slice it. Just because Indiana is the 8th seed and they suck which has led to us being "only 3 games out" that really is not anything to be proud of.

What has happened to the Knick fan base where just making the playoffs, even if it means 35 wins will do it in a terrible conference, is the ultimate satisfaction?

Just trying to put things into perspective here........I still see nothing to get all excited about regardless of winning five of our last seven games. Try winning 15 of 21. That's what it's going to take, anyway, for them to really get going here in the standings.

This was a very good post up until you got to this point. Who is it on this forum who is "proud" of the 14-28 record? I don't even see any of the Knicks saying they're proud of it either. Further who's "excited" about the recent winning streak? I just hear some recognition of the way the team is paying recently as being much better than it had been. Most of the threads have been about the future of the team and not so much about the recent play.

I don't like the idea of trying to make it seem like the wins are some kind of gift just cuz the competition may not have been super tough. The schedule is the schedule. The upcoming trip is notably tougher. Not just cuz it's full of winning teams, but that it's a West Coast trip. The odds are against them being successful, but that doesn't negate the wins they've just had, it merely reflects the level of competition and also the fact that the games are on the road where it's typically harder to win games anyway. If they can win at least 2 of 5 that would be a good trip for them.

We never handle wining well. We will go 1-4 out west and then talk o the playoffs will be over.

Its same team and same coaching.
We will be at 8th position one day and then will fall apart.
This team is terribly consistent to produce some new scenario

Silence! Silence I say!

The Knicks will win 5! Count them 5 of the next road games straight! mwwaaahahahaha.





[Edited by - enyspree on 26-01-2008 6:14 PM]

Isiah doesn't have a problem with high draft picks, he just made the mistake of overrating his teams and not expecting them to be lottery teams. So he traded away picks cuz he didn't think the team would lose big like they did.

Right now he's in a weird spot. He wants to win so that he doesn't force Dolan to fire him. Also he has no future in the NBA if he can't fix this mess and keep this job, since he's radioactive now. On the other hand his longterm success would be helped immensely with a high draft pick.

How does he continue the progress of the team he has, win enough to keep his job, while still keeping the team in the hunt for a stud that could change the teams fortunes for the future?

Posted by nixluva:

Isiah doesn't have a problem with high draft picks, he just made the mistake of overrating his teams and not expecting them to be lottery teams. So he traded away picks cuz he didn't think the team would lose big like they did.

Right now he's in a weird spot. He wants to win so that he doesn't force Dolan to fire him. Also he has no future in the NBA if he can't fix this mess and keep this job, since he's radioactive now. On the other hand his longterm success would be helped immensely with a high draft pick.

How does he continue the progress of the team he has, win enough to keep his job, while still keeping the team in the hunt for a stud that could change the teams fortunes for the future?

As people in Russia say:
"To eat the fish and sit on the dick at the same time"


[Edited by - arkrud on 01-27-2008 12:23 AM]