With this revelation:

Minnesota's Green Wants A Trade
January 26, 2008 - 7:29 am
RealGM Staff Report -
The Boston Globe has reported that the agent for Minnesota swingman Gerald Green has asked Timberwolves' vice president of basketball operations Kevin McHale and general manager Jim Stack to trade his client.

Green will make $1.4 million this year, and Minnesota opted to decline his option for next season.

He will become an unrestricted free agent this summer.Green Wants Trade

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +5.1 ppg, +1.5 rpg, and +0.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Gerald Green
6-8 SF / SG
4.8 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.2 apg in 12.0 minutes
Damien Wilkins
6-6 SG
9.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 25.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Wilson Chandler
6-8 SF
3.3 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.4 apg in 7.5 minutes
Fred Jones
6-2 SG
5.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 2.3 apg in 24.0 minutes


Chandler to Minny, Jones to Seattle-just like the proposed trade I posted before.

These are two minor trades that can pay off. No big money involved.

I can definitely picture:

Curry
Randolph
Wilkins
Green
Crawford

Green and Craw in the back court is sick(and I am not saying Green starts right away-long term).

Whatcha' think?

I agree with the theory of trying to trade for young players with low contract numbers that hasn't had a chance to get much playing time for whatever reason. Guys like Green, H.Armstrong, Justin Williams, M Almond, Tyrus Thomas, K. Lowry , etc.....

I like the idea of getting Green or Wilkins but maybe not both together. I see them both as Shooting Guards. Wilkins is built similar to Q Rich (6'6 225) minus the damaged back, but Wilk isn't long enough to guard most SF's.

I think this is the way the Knicks must move forward. Analyze other teams rosters for those diamond in the ruff type players who aren't going to hurt the salary cap much.



[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-01-2008 11:03 AM]

Posted by EnySpree:

Maybe we should make a diamond in the rough thread.

What you think of that plan?

I agree.

What's with the sudden feeling we're only a side-step trade away from competing these days?

Damien Wilkens and Gerald Green are NOT saving this team. They might make it WORSE to be honest!

Besides...we all know Isiah is drooling over trades for Arenas or Artest or Miles - where we give up all our expirings, our 08 pick, probably Lee or Balkman or Nate - and bring back one of the above three and a lot of garbage in return (like kenny thomas, SAR, Brad Miller, Bibby, LaFrentz, etc.... you know, typical Isiah trade, give up the farm, get "his man", take back a lot of garbage as collateral damage just to get the trade done)

bleh......Thomas is dangerous. Like George Bush dangerous (think Iran).

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by EnySpree:

Maybe we should make a diamond in the rough thread.

What you think of that plan?

I agree.

What's with the sudden feeling we're only a side-step trade away from competing these days?

Damien Wilkens and Gerald Green are NOT saving this team. They might make it WORSE to be honest!

Besides...we all know Isiah is drooling over trades for Arenas or Artest or Miles - where we give up all our expirings, our 08 pick, probably Lee or Balkman or Nate - and bring back one of the above three and a lot of garbage in return (like kenny thomas, SAR, Brad Miller, Bibby, LaFrentz, etc.... you know, typical Isiah trade, give up the farm, get "his man", take back a lot of garbage as collateral damage just to get the trade done)

bleh......Thomas is dangerous. Like George Bush dangerous (think Iran).

Who said anything about saving the season? You can still acquire talent, you can still judge what you need. This is the problem with the WHOLE Isiah reign. He constantly thinks he is one move away. Thin about the names he acquired. Jalen Rose, Steve Francis, Tim Thomas(who at the time was given a cornerstone contract in Milly). All moves to hit the home run. Totally ignoring the fact that you can acquire guys that fill roles and be better off than just acquiring the same type of second to third tier star.

Wilkins is a defender(the best defender on Seattle). He can also score and rebound. He reminds me of Raja Bell. What may it cost us? An expiring contract? What is Fred Jones' 5 mil(or whatever it is) going to get us? It'll get us closer to the cap after it expires. And we'll still be over it. I'd take Damien Wilkins in a heartbeat. He would be an automatic starter for us at the 2 or 3. He'd give the team exactly what it needs at the 2 or 3, AND he'll be a solid player. No superstar ego. And we can get a solid role player(we have 1 solid role player in Lee. Maybe 2 others in Nate and Balkman.).

As for Green, get him, see what he got, and if it doesn't wor out at the end of the year let him walk(he's a FA). Get rid of one of the 2 young SF's since we don't have room to develop both and trade one in for a guy that showed some AMAZING potential last year. Look at some of the games he put together at the end of las year.Gerald Green

You wouldn't give up a role player(albeit a good one) for Green's potential? Everyone here keeps saying how we need a superstar but we don't have the means to acquire one and we have to get lucky in the draft. How about we be proactive. This kid showed some great potential last year.

This is called being creative with what you have. We are nowhere near a championship contender until we answer some valid questions. Curry or Randolph? Can Nate be a consistent 2 guard at his size since Jamal is obviiously better at the PG spot? What's up with the 3-spot?

I think the bottom line is we have alot of youth where they may or may not have a limited ceiling. How about we get a guy that may develop into a guy we may be able to build around?

[Edited by - joec32033 on 26 January 2008 13:18]

Posted by franco12:

what is damien wilkins upside? Fred Jones?

Now- Gerald Green might have upside- however, if he is unrestricted this summer, why trade for him? why not just sign him. We have no pure 2, and we could promise him lots of minutes there.

1-Damien Wilkins=Raja Bell. That is his upside. I would love to get him.

2-In order to sign Green, you'll probably have to offer a multi year deal. Possibly MLE dollars. Why take the chance he is a bust? It's all about minimizing risk. Take on Green for a few months. See what he has. He doesn't have what it takes? Let him walk and now you have the MLE to use on someone else. Also trading for him opens up a roster spot. Signing him means you would have to Cut someone. I would give up Balkman or Chandler for an early chance to Judge Gerald Green and first dibs on him if he does turn out to be something. He reminds me alot of Gerald Wallace when he first came into the league. All athlete, uber raw. High upside.

Posted by kam77:

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by franco12:

what is damien wilkins upside? Fred Jones?

Now- Gerald Green might have upside- however, if he is unrestricted this summer, why trade for him? why not just sign him. We have no pure 2, and we could promise him lots of minutes there.

1-Damien Wilkins=Raja Bell. That is his upside. I would love to get him.

2-In order to sign Green, you'll probably have to offer a multi year deal. Possibly MLE dollars. Why take the chance he is a bust? It's all about minimizing risk. Take on Green for a few months. See what he has. He doesn't have what it takes? Let him walk and now you have the MLE to use on someone else. Also trading for him opens up a roster spot. Signing him means you would have to Cut someone. I would give up Balkman or Chandler for an early chance to Judge Gerald Green and first dibs on him if he does turn out to be something. He reminds me alot of Gerald Wallace when he first came into the league. All athlete, uber raw. High upside.

MInnesota is 1-2 million over the luxury tax, you can bet they'll try to unload a contract or two.

I propose Buckner and Green for Fred Jones and Randolph Morris.

Dan Dickau's expiring deal would look really good right now, no?

i would love to get Greene, i think he's got definite star potential... i just don't see us getting him for that package you proposed.

he wouldn't be the first HS kid to take a while to mature... i don't see him becoming the next Kobe necessarily but we really haven't seen him get enough burn in NBA action to gauge his full potential... he's shown some flashes of brilliance & we definitely know he's got all the physical tools... he may well become the next Darius Miles, no doubt, but it's still way too early to call the kid a bust IMHO... he deserves a shot playing for a coach who believes in his ability & will give him a shot... unfortunately i don't see that happening in NY as long as Isiah's coaching "his" guys.

Posted by franco12:

what is damien wilkins upside? Fred Jones?

Fred Jones has only just begun to explore his upside.