Posted by VDesai:

I've always liked Collison. I think Bayless is more of a scorer.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by VDesai:

I've always liked Collison. I think Bayless is more of a scorer.

Do you see Collison as a STAR or just a good NBA PG? I'm looking for a guy that has the kind of charisma players follow and the talent to stay on the floor. Often times you get only one of the two. A guy with character and leadership but mediocre skills or a stud with no team concept. Bayless looks like a younger version of Steph in a way only with leaderships skills:

"Strengths: In a word: special. Bayless combines incredible speed, quickness and athleticism with a high level of intelligence and composure ... Winners mentality ... He really excels on the offensive end of the floor with his scoring ability ... Has an extra gear blowing by defenders with ease, and needs just an inch of daylight to get his jumpshot off ... Excellent body strength for his age ... He understands how to create shots for himself and has incredible leaping ability ... Very strong offensively, great form on his shot ... Plays with a high level of intensity ... Good defender, team player. Has leadership ability ...

Weaknesses: Must become better at running the PG position ... More of a scoring point, but his PG abilities are improving ... Can be prone to trying to do too much, must be more patient and composed ... Still hasn't sustained himself as an elite level player for an extended period of time ... "

He seems to rate out as a better talent overall than Collison and he's a little taller which I like. I'm going to be looking into this a bit more seriously.

Posted by nixluva:

Even tho I agree we need a REAL PG, it's hard to find a guy that thinks pass 1st but actually has the talent to score, like Nash. That's what makes him so great. He's a threat every second he has the ball. You play on your heels with that guy cuz he can kill you both ways. I worry about a kid like Bayless being too shot happy, but at the same time I don't see us getting very far with an Eric Snow or Charlie Ward clone.

Unless Isiah goes into full tank mode right away, we'll never get high enough to have a chance at Derrick Rose, the player we really need. I don't think we'll be able to lose more than Minny, Miami and Seattle. The best we could get is #4 or if we get lucky with the ping pong balls.

At the moment I like the idea of Bayless, due to his overall package. I wish I had been able to see more of his games.

Collison tho seems like he's got more of the PG skills we're looking for and the defense we've been lacking at that position:

"Strengths: Made a name for himself as a freshman as a lock down defender, with his tremendous reflexes, long arms and quick feet: Collison has the ability to make life hell for opposing point guards trying to bring the ball up the court … An absolute jet, has an extra gear which allows him to blow by virtually any college PG at will … His hand and foot speed put him in elite company … Mentally tough. Has a great motor, competes hard and doesn’t back down ... He steps his level of intensity up in important situations … Has really improved as a floor general and shows excellent vision and passing along with great ball handling ability … A smart decision maker who knows when to pull the ball out and when to attack the glass … Rarely makes bad judgments passing the ball … He’s just 6’ feet (barefoot) but has extremely long arms allowing him to play bigger than his actual size … His outside shooting has shown excellent improvement, and he has also developed an effective mid-range tear drop that he utilizes over shot blockers … His body control is tremendous … A real terror as an on ball defender, quick to pounce on any mistake made by opposing guards … If he gets a step on opponents in the open court, it’s usually too late to catch up to foul him …

Weaknesses: Still learning the ropes in his first full season as a college starting point guard … Lacks experience in big game situations leading a team, but appears primed to step into Farmar’s shoes and effectively lead the team as a sophomore … Has the makings of a star but will likely defer to more experienced players such as Mbah a Moute, Afflalo and Shipp with regard to go-to scoring until his time comes … Eventually will need to learn to take over in crunch time and become more selfish … He lacks great body strength. Could stand to bulk up some, at his current weight he is not able to absorb contact inside as well as bigger/stronger guards … He’s got solid leaping ability, but his greatest physical attribute is quickness … Can be posted up by taller and stronger guards … His speed gives him a huge advantage in the open court, must continue to improve in the half court set … Must improve on his 1:1 A/TO ratio as a freshman ..."