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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/080122&%20%20sportCat=nba&%20%20lpos=spotlight&%20%20lid=tab7pos2

"He does not belong here.



Here, in this joyless arena (Madison Square Garden). Here, with this clueless, combative coach (Isiah Thomas). Here, with this snide, vindictive owner (MC Smooth-J Dolan). Here, with one point guard who doesn't pass (Nate Robinson) and another who doesn't play (Stephon Marbury).



Malik Rose is stuck on the bench of the NBA's most embarrassing franchise.
Here, with this heartless forward who visits strip clubs on bereavement leave (Zach Randolph), with this heartless starting center who can't rebound (Eddy Curry), with this heartless backup center who can't, well, do much of anything (Jerome James). Here, on this roster of the New York Knickerbockers.


Malik Rose would never admit this. He does what good and righteous players have done for decades: talks about the Knicks turning the corner and being a part of something special, and standing behind Dolan and Thomas and Marbury as they struggle to right a battered and hole-pocked ship.



Yet this is not where he belongs. No way.



To be blunt, Malik Rose is too good for these Knicks -- too good of a teammate, too good of a person. In the immediate aftermath of player introductions, Rose routinely embraces each New York starter in a firm hug while whispering, "Go get 'em" or "Make it your night." During timeouts, as the eyes of the starters stray from Thomas' clipboard to watch the gyrating (and scantily clad) Knicks City Dancers, Rose -- a reserve forward and one of the last men off New York's bench -- leans in as if he were studying details of the Malta Summit.



"You never know," says the 12th-year Drexel product, "when you might be needed."



Rose is the guy who shows up early for practice, who leaves late, who roots for the men playing ahead of him, who refuses to move on until he makes 80 percent of his shots during shooting drills. "Why?" he asks rhetorically. "Because I know I need to shoot a very high percentage to stay on the court. So I always hold myself to that standard."



Again, Malik Rose does not belong here.



In a locker room full of doorknobs, he is a Tiffany bracelet. To a media corps harassed, stymied and intimidated by Dolan's manipulative and oppressive tactics, he is, officially and unofficially, the go-to guy. Rose answers all the questions, tackles all concerns and speaks up for teammates when they are too ashamed to speak for themselves.



Following most of New York's 28 defeats this season, the same pattern has developed: Thomas takes a handful of queries, then vanishes. Three or four Knicks take a handful of queries while their teammates hide in the showers. Dolan, being the wimpiest of wimps, doesn't even appear. Rose, meanwhile, answers all.



Again, he does not belong here.



Were there a God monitoring the daily NBA agate, Rose never would have been involved in that putrid trade three years ago, when the San Antonio Spurs shipped him (along with a pair of first-round draft picks) to New York for two rusted, half-empty tin cans (aka Jamison Brewer and Nazr Mohammed). No, Rose would still be in San Antonio, the city he adopted while enjoying seven and a half blissful years as a Spur. Though he was never a regular starter, Rose served as San Antonio's off-the-bench igniter; a fist-pumping, body-slamming, 6-foot-7, 255-pound cannonball who thrived at sledgehammering Shaquille O'Neal during some of those epic Lakers-Spurs battles.



More important, he became the Spur in the community. Rose opened a restaurant in the city's Quarry Market, "Malik's Philly Phamous," where he could often be found slinging cheesesteaks and cracking jokes. Though he never averaged more than 10.4 points or 6.4 rebounds, the San Antonio Business Journal named Rose one of the city's "40 under 40." Whenever there was an appearance to be made or a charity to endorse, Rose always materialized.



Rose was so beloved that, the night of the trade, Don Harris of WOAI-TV drove out to his house to give the new ex-Spur a chance to bid everyone farewell. In a remarkable bit of hometown journalism that can be seen here, Harris handed Rose the microphone and allotted him all the time he wanted. "Thank you for everything you've given me and allowed me to do," Rose said. "Thank you for allowing me to make Texas my home … San Antonio my home. First and foremost, I wanna say thanks to [coach Gregg Popovich]. Pop has been great. And we've had our ups and downs, sometimes we've hated each other, but I know he knows that through it all I've respected him and loved him as a person and a lot of his views and a lot of his positions on things on life, not just basketball. I think he's a brilliant person with a beautiful heart and I wish nothing but the best for him …"



The interview extends beyond five minutes, a hurting Rose addressing a hurting city. It is as "un-Knicks" as one can get, chock full o' pain and compassion and feeling.



It speaks of a good man. A kind man. A decent man.



Malik Rose does not belong here."


By the way, when will the sucking end?




[Edited by - ub on 01-22-2008 10:49 PM]
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1/22/2008  11:08 PM
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1/22/2008  11:22 PM
The hell kind of nonsense is this??? P.R gone terribly wrong! Malik may be a nice guy and all, but he is a salary albatross whose expiration date in this league expired a long time ago. He is basically paid millions to watch games from the best seat in the house. Straight up, duke is a scrub who has been stealing paychecks for a minute.

Popovich probably smiled for a week straight after he shipped his sorry azz out of San Antonio. Talking about Nazr is a "half-empty, tin can". Man, Nazr shyts on this cat.
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1/22/2008  11:34 PM
Interesting responses. That's a lot of disrespect for someone who has acted entirely professionally. Does he deserve a lot of credit for acting like a professional while making millions? Maybe not, but it's quite a rarity on our team. Knock his contract and all that -- but Malik isn't responsible for his large contract. San Antonio is... and then Isiah took on the mammoth deal. So if the issue is Malik's contract, blame Isiah. If the issue is that you can't respect a man's man who comes out every night, does the right thing and deals with a group of misfits while holding his head up high, blame yourselves... because you're just like Isiah. If the Knicks had more good influences and less Cancerburys, who knows where we'd be.

Malik is not a great player by any stretch, but he wasn't expecting to come to New York and have his career die either while this pathetic group of childish misfits plays and disgraces the court every night.
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1/22/2008  11:47 PM
Good words Solace.....
https://www.youtube.com/user/RPreston01/videos
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1/23/2008  12:00 AM
Yeah - and don't forget the two draft picks that came with him- im other words we basicaly paid for two first roun ddraft picks - and Rose came with it
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1/23/2008  12:02 AM
I have no problem with Rose. He's the only one on the team that actually cares.
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1/23/2008  12:21 AM
The actual espn story has a link to the interview discussed at the end that some may want to also see. Thank you Solace (and others) who got the point of this post.
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1/23/2008  12:28 AM
Posted by Solace:

Interesting responses. That's a lot of disrespect for someone who has acted entirely professionally. Does he deserve a lot of credit for acting like a professional while making millions? Maybe not, but it's quite a rarity on our team. Knock his contract and all that -- but Malik isn't responsible for his large contract. San Antonio is... and then Isiah took on the mammoth deal. So if the issue is Malik's contract, blame Isiah. If the issue is that you can't respect a man's man who comes out every night, does the right thing and deals with a group of misfits while holding his head up high, blame yourselves... because you're just like Isiah. If the Knicks had more good influences and less Cancerburys, who knows where we'd be.

Malik is not a great player by any stretch, but he wasn't expecting to come to New York and have his career die either while this pathetic group of childish misfits plays and disgraces the court every night.

Lets avoid the scatterbrained reflexes and focus on the topic at hand. Malik. No Isiah, Marbury, or anyone else you want to throw into the automated cheap shot response pot.

Malik is not Nelson Mandela. He is not finding the cure for AIDS. He is a nice guy but how does that make him not only immune to criticism, but also justify a slobbering piece that positions him as some sort of tortured soul. Him playing on a bad team is not a human rights story. Malik is doing nothing special here. Nothing. Plenty of people could be "nice guys" if they were paid millions in the process.

Rose is incompetent at his job. How is that inaccurate? Yeah, you can blame Zeke for trading for him but why let Rose off the hook?

Still trying to figure out the unnecessary cheap shot directed at Nazr.
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1/23/2008  12:41 AM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by Solace:

Interesting responses. That's a lot of disrespect for someone who has acted entirely professionally. Does he deserve a lot of credit for acting like a professional while making millions? Maybe not, but it's quite a rarity on our team. Knock his contract and all that -- but Malik isn't responsible for his large contract. San Antonio is... and then Isiah took on the mammoth deal. So if the issue is Malik's contract, blame Isiah. If the issue is that you can't respect a man's man who comes out every night, does the right thing and deals with a group of misfits while holding his head up high, blame yourselves... because you're just like Isiah. If the Knicks had more good influences and less Cancerburys, who knows where we'd be.

Malik is not a great player by any stretch, but he wasn't expecting to come to New York and have his career die either while this pathetic group of childish misfits plays and disgraces the court every night.

Lets avoid the scatterbrained reflexes and focus on the topic at hand. Malik. No Isiah, Marbury, or anyone else you want to throw into the automated cheap shot response pot.

Malik is not Nelson Mandela. He is not finding the cure for AIDS. He is a nice guy but how does that make him not only immune to criticism, but also justify a slobbering piece that positions him as some sort of tortured soul. Him playing on a bad team is not a human rights story. Malik is doing nothing special here. Nothing. Plenty of people could be "nice guys" if they were paid millions in the process.

Rose is incompetent at his job. How is that inaccurate? Yeah, you can blame Zeke for trading for him but why let Rose off the hook?

Still trying to figure out the unnecessary cheap shot directed at Nazr.

That's pretty harsh. You make being incompetent sound like a bad thing.
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1/23/2008  12:45 AM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by Solace:

Interesting responses. That's a lot of disrespect for someone who has acted entirely professionally. Does he deserve a lot of credit for acting like a professional while making millions? Maybe not, but it's quite a rarity on our team. Knock his contract and all that -- but Malik isn't responsible for his large contract. San Antonio is... and then Isiah took on the mammoth deal. So if the issue is Malik's contract, blame Isiah. If the issue is that you can't respect a man's man who comes out every night, does the right thing and deals with a group of misfits while holding his head up high, blame yourselves... because you're just like Isiah. If the Knicks had more good influences and less Cancerburys, who knows where we'd be.

Malik is not a great player by any stretch, but he wasn't expecting to come to New York and have his career die either while this pathetic group of childish misfits plays and disgraces the court every night.

Lets avoid the scatterbrained reflexes and focus on the topic at hand. Malik. No Isiah, Marbury, or anyone else you want to throw into the automated cheap shot response pot.

Malik is not Nelson Mandela. He is not finding the cure for AIDS. He is a nice guy but how does that make him not only immune to criticism, but also justify a slobbering piece that positions him as some sort of tortured soul. Him playing on a bad team is not a human rights story. Malik is doing nothing special here. Nothing. Plenty of people could be "nice guys" if they were paid millions in the process.

Rose is incompetent at his job. How is that inaccurate? Yeah, you can blame Zeke for trading for him but why let Rose off the hook?

Still trying to figure out the unnecessary cheap shot directed at Nazr.

Please don't take offense, but your post is incompetent. It's nice to have discussions where opinions can be stated, but in this case, you're just wrong. Malik gets credit for working hard. All of the other stuff you're mentioning isn't even interesting in the context of this conversation. Malik is what he is as a player. If you were expecting more than a role player off the bench, you were mistaken. Don't blame Malik for that. Until I see a post that proclaims that Malik could've been Charles Barkley if only he worked harder, I will live under the assumption that Malik was and was expected to be simply a role player and a positive influence on the team. Unless that's your argument, you've sorely missed the point.

[Edited by - Solace on Jan 23 2008 12:47 AM]
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1/23/2008  12:45 AM
Po po Malik is homesick- ahh San Anotnio where i I can get paid millions and on the side sling cheesteaks, crack jokes and show up at Charity balls - where i was 'someone'. Woe is me - woe is me
And to think i have suffered through all of this with out a whisper of discontent -

“What we've gone through is one of life's most cruel tests, a test of character and will and perseverance. This year has been very trying for us as players. I know it's been trying for everyone else, management and fans, especially. We're not giving up.”
Malik Rose quotes



[Edited by - iyamwutiam on 01-23-2008 12:48 AM]
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1/23/2008  1:03 AM
Posted by UB:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/080122&%20%20sportCat=nba&%20%20lpos=spotlight&%20%20lid=tab7pos2



[Edited by - ub on 01-22-2008 10:48 PM]

Its a puff piece and there might even be a connection between the two. Pearlman's alma mater is Univ. of Delaware, which is in the same conference as Malik's alma mater Drexel. Those CAA boys, they stick together.
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1/23/2008  2:05 AM
this article suggests that Malik is the one Knick who is a dedicated hard worker w/enough integrity to take pride in preparing himself to play hard on every play... i have to disagree w/the author here... he's using Malik to satisfy his own personal agenda to take cheap shots at the rest of this roster... Malik has been nothing but a professional ever since he's been here, he's right about that, but so have guys like David Lee, Jamal Crawford, Jared Jefferies & Mardy Collins... the way the author makes it sound it's as if this entire roster is filled with selfish unprofessional primadonnas, & that's not been the case entirely.
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1/23/2008  2:13 AM
What has he done to aid the Knicks so far? Inspiring play? lemme think - NO - the ole pull the chair play while pulling the man down only works so much. Locker room presence? - umm NO - basically he comes to work each day and collect his millions just like everyone else on this team. He is a part of this team right? Therefore he also is a part of the problem - no one is beyond blame. Yes Malik was so much of a professional that while his teammates made it to practice one snowy day he couldn't get out of his driveway. The last time I checked you can call a car service from anywhere in the Tri-State area. So please pardon me if I don't hop on his bandwagon. If he was so much of a professional and really hated it here go talk to his coach/GM accept a buyout and move on. AS I said before about this obvious fluff piece whatever

[Edited by - buddapaw on 01-23-2008 02:14 AM]
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1/23/2008  2:25 AM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by Solace:

Interesting responses. That's a lot of disrespect for someone who has acted entirely professionally. Does he deserve a lot of credit for acting like a professional while making millions? Maybe not, but it's quite a rarity on our team. Knock his contract and all that -- but Malik isn't responsible for his large contract. San Antonio is... and then Isiah took on the mammoth deal. So if the issue is Malik's contract, blame Isiah. If the issue is that you can't respect a man's man who comes out every night, does the right thing and deals with a group of misfits while holding his head up high, blame yourselves... because you're just like Isiah. If the Knicks had more good influences and less Cancerburys, who knows where we'd be.

Malik is not a great player by any stretch, but he wasn't expecting to come to New York and have his career die either while this pathetic group of childish misfits plays and disgraces the court every night.

Lets avoid the scatterbrained reflexes and focus on the topic at hand. Malik. No Isiah, Marbury, or anyone else you want to throw into the automated cheap shot response pot.

Malik is not Nelson Mandela. He is not finding the cure for AIDS. He is a nice guy but how does that make him not only immune to criticism, but also justify a slobbering piece that positions him as some sort of tortured soul. Him playing on a bad team is not a human rights story. Malik is doing nothing special here. Nothing. Plenty of people could be "nice guys" if they were paid millions in the process.

Rose is incompetent at his job. How is that inaccurate? Yeah, you can blame Zeke for trading for him but why let Rose off the hook?

Still trying to figure out the unnecessary cheap shot directed at Nazr.


Did you get on Solace for bringing I SAY UGH and Marbury(who are at least employed by the Knicks) into the discussion unnecessarily and then proceed to reach to the high heavens and insert Nelson Mandela into the conversation? ROTFLOL! Your whole post is Bankrupt on this point alone.
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1/23/2008  9:47 AM
I agree. Malik Rose does not belong on an NBA roster anymore.
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1/23/2008  1:57 PM
I don't agree with making Malik out to be a saint, but the author is absolutely right in that Malik operates at a level of professionalism that the rest of this team, from the owner down, do not.

He could have easily bitched and moaned about the culture shock of going from a real organization to a side show, but didn't and has been a professional about it the entire time. He's also one of the few players on this team that embraces this city and doesn't stay hidden in some Westchester mansion because the Knicks aren't doing well. Half the players sit at home praying and waiting to be traded from here because of the big bad Knick fans and the media. Malik's one of the few who doesn't run from it.

I don't think some of you realize just how many thieves, crybabies, low lifes, underachievers and bottom feeders you have on this team and how many of them are perfectly fine with that as long as their checks come on the 15th and 30th. Malik is not one of those players. He's also one of the few with an IQ above his shoe size, on and off the court.

Granted, he has no place on this roster, skill wise, but to try and poke holes in a story about his professionalism and patience is misguided. It's not his fault he'd probably make a better coach and is already a better leader than the person getting paid to manage this team.
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1/23/2008  3:00 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:

Granted, he has no place on this roster, skill wise, but to try and poke holes in a story about his professionalism and patience is misguided. It's not his fault he'd probably make a better coach and is already a better leader than the person getting paid to manage this team.

I've always said that if he decides to , he'd be a hell of a head coach.

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Nice piece on Malik

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