1. We can't live with the Jones Richardson Jefferies Balkman tandrum as role players. Way too much offensive innefiency. On good teams you need role players --not necesarily every night--step up and have some kind of offensive impact. This also plays to the theory of having a PG get some easy shots for these guys.
2. I think that we should start David Lee for Curry. I think Curry can get his 19-6 off the bench and use Lee as a guy who will give us more defense and energy into the starting line up where we get off to so many rough starts. There is no shame coming of the bench--it's not a demotion--simply it might be putting a player in his best position to have the most success to help the team win. No one can ignore how many times we've been down 10+ points in a game. We've been lucky to change momentum[very likely a sign of the other team letting down] in a few of our wins and comebacks. Put the core problem is BEING DOWN 10 POINTs to many times. I think changing Lee and Curry is the start of the help there.
3.
If I acknowledge this is what I have in a 9 man rotation

C-Lee
F Randolph
F
G J Crawford
G
C Curry
F Jefferies
G
G Nate

I need two guards and a F. I think that unless I can get a pure bonafide out of the draft--I may be willing to look into trading the pick like the Celtics did. I would like to see if we can fill one of these positions at the trade deadline using Jones Balkman CollinsChandler Morris[because we are not doing anything with these players--it would be one thing if we heard they were training with Bernard King's or Walt Fraizers daily and hiring a trainer etc... and get SOME PT but I hear 0 so to me so I can only equate them as expendable assets.

We are still miles away BUT I think we can salvage some things here IF we can add some really good pieces to the outline above and get away from players who are not bringing enough to the table.

The need to play atleast one defensive big in the front court to be a good team in the future. And the prospects of getting a player that turely works with Lee seems to be the least likely of them all. Even the greatest big of the 2000's Tim Duncan needs a Forward that is bigger then him or can hit some jumpshots. The prospects of finding a Center that allows Lee to start seems to be the lowest to me, seeing as that player needs to be better Offensively, Defensively and able to bang the other teams biggest front court player. Yao, Bynum, Stoudimere(maybe Bogat and Hawes) are the only players I can come up with. They were all top 10 picks and franchise centers.(as of right now)

I think a Move of Lee for Oakfor or Brand(with other peices) is maybe something the knicks should look into.

I agree briggs, but playing lee at center to start, may wear him down and keep him in foul trouble... Nate should be the spark off the bench, but why not this year, see if morris and chandler can play? why not? I mean we are what 13-28 or something like that.... what is there to lose, you see if chandler can play SF and morris center and if they can't, then we are in position for the lottery anyway...

What about trade Eddy, Zack, and Craf and develop players we have and we will get in trades and lottary.... Oh, sorry, I forget... This is NY not Portland...

[Edited by - arkrud on 01-21-2008 11:57 PM]

Posted by BRIGGS:

1. We can't live with the Jones Richardson Jefferies Balkman tandrum as role players. Way too much offensive innefiency. On good teams you need role players --not necesarily every night--step up and have some kind of offensive impact. This also plays to the theory of having a PG get some easy shots for these guys.
2. I think that we should start David Lee for Curry. I think Curry can get his 19-6 off the bench and use Lee as a guy who will give us more defense and energy into the starting line up where we get off to so many rough starts. There is no shame coming of the bench--it's not a demotion--simply it might be putting a player in his best position to have the most success to help the team win. No one can ignore how many times we've been down 10+ points in a game. We've been lucky to change momentum[very likely a sign of the other team letting down] in a few of our wins and comebacks. Put the core problem is BEING DOWN 10 POINTs to many times. I think changing Lee and Curry is the start of the help there.
3.
If I acknowledge this is what I have in a 9 man rotation

C-Lee
F Randolph
F
G J Crawford
G
C Curry
F Jefferies
G
G Nate

I need two guards and a F. I think that unless I can get a pure bonafide out of the draft--I may be willing to look into trading the pick like the Celtics did. I would like to see if we can fill one of these positions at the trade deadline using Jones Balkman CollinsChandler Morris[because we are not doing anything with these players--it would be one thing if we heard they were training with Bernard King's or Walt Fraizers daily and hiring a trainer etc... and get SOME PT but I hear 0 so to me so I can only equate them as expendable assets.

We are still miles away BUT I think we can salvage some things here IF we can add some really good pieces to the outline above and get away from players who are not bringing enough to the table.

I'd say this is what we have in a 8 man rotation for the future

Starters
C:
PF:
SF:
SG:
PG:
Reserves
C:
F: Lee
G:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BRIGGS:

1. We can't live with the Jones Richardson Jefferies Balkman tandrum as role players. Way too much offensive innefiency. On good teams you need role players --not necesarily every night--step up and have some kind of offensive impact. This also plays to the theory of having a PG get some easy shots for these guys.
2. I think that we should start David Lee for Curry. I think Curry can get his 19-6 off the bench and use Lee as a guy who will give us more defense and energy into the starting line up where we get off to so many rough starts. There is no shame coming of the bench--it's not a demotion--simply it might be putting a player in his best position to have the most success to help the team win. No one can ignore how many times we've been down 10+ points in a game. We've been lucky to change momentum[very likely a sign of the other team letting down] in a few of our wins and comebacks. Put the core problem is BEING DOWN 10 POINTs to many times. I think changing Lee and Curry is the start of the help there.
3.
If I acknowledge this is what I have in a 9 man rotation

C-Lee
F Randolph
F
G J Crawford
G
C Curry
F Jefferies
G
G Nate

I need two guards and a F. I think that unless I can get a pure bonafide out of the draft--I may be willing to look into trading the pick like the Celtics did. I would like to see if we can fill one of these positions at the trade deadline using Jones Balkman CollinsChandler Morris[because we are not doing anything with these players--it would be one thing if we heard they were training with Bernard King's or Walt Fraizers daily and hiring a trainer etc... and get SOME PT but I hear 0 so to me so I can only equate them as expendable assets.

We are still miles away BUT I think we can salvage some things here IF we can add some really good pieces to the outline above and get away from players who are not bringing enough to the table.

I'd say this is what we have in a 8 man rotation for the future

Starters
C:
PF:
SF:
SG:
PG:
Reserves
C:
F: Lee
G:

LMAO!