Posted by bitty41:

Both of them would have been absolutely horrible for the Knicks if you believe these rumors. Umm a Western Conference source why would a Western Conference source have inside knowledge about a Knicks and Nets trade sounds a little suspect to me.

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by bitty41:

Both of them would have been absolutely horrible for the Knicks if you believe these rumors. Umm a Western Conference source why would a Western Conference source have inside knowledge about a Knicks and Nets trade sounds a little suspect to me.

One of the articles said yesterday that the Milwaukee GM called Kevin Pritchard to get info on Zach. Could be that teams are pumping the Blazers for info and that is why there is a Western Conf. source leaking the rumors.

BTW, wasn't there a Zach/Richard Jefferson deal close to coming true around draft time? I guess the Nets are soured on him significantly since then.

[Edited by - vdesai on 01-17-2008 10:27 AM]

Posted by bitty41:

Both of them would have been absolutely horrible for the Knicks if you believe these rumors. Umm a Western Conference source why would a Western Conference source have inside knowledge about a Knicks and Nets trade sounds a little suspect to me.

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by VDesai:

I wouldn't call getting Vince Carter one of the worst moves they've made in recent years. They got him for practically nothing and the first year he was there he literally carried them on his back to the playoffs- he was playing MVP level ball. Now of court RJ was injured at the time.

Now the Nets should've recognized soon enough that the double wing attack really wasn't sustainable and made a move on one while the value was sky high.

He was playing at MVP level when did this happen? Not since he came south of the border he hasn't this guy has always been and will continue to be a mirage. Oh he looks amazing in some meaningless game but when it comes to crunch time against the likes of Eric Snow watch out b/c he will fold.

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by VDesai:

I wouldn't call getting Vince Carter one of the worst moves they've made in recent years. They got him for practically nothing and the first year he was there he literally carried them on his back to the playoffs- he was playing MVP level ball. Now of court RJ was injured at the time.

Now the Nets should've recognized soon enough that the double wing attack really wasn't sustainable and made a move on one while the value was sky high.

He was playing at MVP level when did this happen? Not since he came south of the border he hasn't this guy has always been and will continue to be a mirage. Oh he looks amazing in some meaningless game but when it comes to crunch time against the likes of Eric Snow watch out b/c he will fold.

Short memory? Do you remember when he came to the Nets his first year? He basically carried them from a losing record into the playoffs. You might hate him, but there was no doubt he was playing at the highest level when he was acquired then.

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by VDesai:

I wouldn't call getting Vince Carter one of the worst moves they've made in recent years. They got him for practically nothing and the first year he was there he literally carried them on his back to the playoffs- he was playing MVP level ball. Now of court RJ was injured at the time.

Now the Nets should've recognized soon enough that the double wing attack really wasn't sustainable and made a move on one while the value was sky high.

He was playing at MVP level when did this happen? Not since he came south of the border he hasn't this guy has always been and will continue to be a mirage. Oh he looks amazing in some meaningless game but when it comes to crunch time against the likes of Eric Snow watch out b/c he will fold.

Short memory? Do you remember when he came to the Nets his first year? He basically carried them from a losing record into the playoffs. You might hate him, but there was no doubt he was playing at the highest level when he was acquired then.

Again I repeat Carter plays great in the regular season its just that he has this medical condition wait let me see if I can remember the name ah yes its called: CHOKING. So he may have led the Nets for those last 10 games of the season that year but what you failed to mention was his complete disappearing act in the Indiana series in which the Nets were swept.

Posted by bitty41:

Yea im sure people like King would have loved this deal and praised as Isiah finally getting something (along with drafting David Lee) then we would of course spend the rest of the season watching him and Crawford compete for who can chuck up more shots.

pretty much the same mentality that brought Zach here to begin with, only replace Curry w/Jamal in your scenario... neither Vince nor Zach addresses any of our needs to help balance out the roster... both have equally bad contracts that run the same length... Vince is probably a better box office draw though, which is the only reason why this move might appeal to Dolan.

so much for any "likely" Zach trades w/the Nets... like i said in another thread, the only way we're getting rid of Zach is if we throw in some other incentive, like some of our youth or our draft pick... if Isiah gives up Lee or the draft pick to unload Zach, he's an even bigger moron than i thought he was.