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EnySpree
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1/7/2008  7:41 AM
We talk about the kids faults so much that we rarely rave about the kid.......

He has proven that he can put the ball in the basket. He can score on anyone. I will even say he is one of the best scorers at his position.....Im calling him a point guard.

His defense has been getting better on the ball. He still finds himself behind a lot of picks but the guy has been getting after it.

He pushes the ball upcourt exteamly fast. He looks like a blur. When he pushes the ball it looks like the game is going in slow motion around him.

He is an elite jumpshooter. Yes elite. He rarely misses open three pointers.

As a point guard? He's finally understanding that even though his offense is clicking, he has to use that to get other guys involved.

Energy? The guy is pure energy. Nobody on the team plays with the same fire. Even with all the negativity surrounding the team, nate still comes out like a fireball.

Nate is an awesome 6th man. If the Knicks weren't the worst team in the league he would get mention.

Oh yeah defense.....Nate jumps up to defend the rim more than anyone on the team! Rebounding too. He's just a special player.

With this 8 win team......Nate should get his props for giving his all. I know we have been talking about trading him but if you take a step back, the dude has really been awesome.

I dunno if you guys agree.....but I just want to thank the dude for being who he is. If we really want to tank and think about next year, maybe Nate should get the START for the rest of the year. Nobody likes Marbs and the Knicks function fine with Craw playing the point.....maybe its Nates time. Playing him off the bench is retarded since the Knicks lack energy to start games.

Anyway, respect senor Nate....keep on giving 110%.
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1/7/2008  7:53 AM
i'm gonna assume ur being serious here about what ur saying... i think ur going overboard... i agree, he's probably the best jumpshooter we have, but elite? wow, don't think anyone will be putting him on Ray Allen's level quite just yet.

give him starter's minutes & he'll likely get you 15 & 4 on this current squad, maybe going up to the 17 range if u focus the offense to a perimeter attack... is that really the answer for us going forward? we have guys who can score from the perimeter... we need Nate to be an energizer & play defense... he's brought the energy no question, but he's not a defensive G... IMO he's strictly a 7th man off the bench behind D Lee at best on this current roster.
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1/7/2008  8:04 AM
Nate is a solid backup pg. I would like him to stay on the team in that role. Not sure if he will ever be a starter unless he improves his defense and his ability to run the offense. But he is, at the very least, a younger, more athletic Earl Boykins.
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1/7/2008  8:09 AM
Posted by TMS:IMO he's strictly a 7th man off the bench behind D Lee at best on this current roster.
IMO he will never be more than that on any team with chances of being succesful. That does not make Nate bad player, he is just a good player to spark the offense.
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1/7/2008  8:38 AM
Nobody is putting Nate next to Ray allen. Ray allen is the top of the food chain as far as shooters in the league. I just know if Nate is open that shot is going in. If elite is too strong I'll dumb it down to "as good as anybody in the league" like the nba announcers say so nobody can challenge their credibility.

Future wise, like I said nobody likes Marbs. Right now he is putting up 15/4. Eh......if Marbs is gonna put up 15/4 then Nate needs to be given the job.....@ the very least Isiah needs to stop DNP'ing him.

The Knicks are 8 and 20 something. If Isiah won't trade then make changes from within. Knicks main prob is energy to start games.....you don't have to ask Nate for more cowbell. He is the cowbell. His wife must love him (Alllll right!).

Going forward for the future:
David Lee
Chandler
Eddy curry
Nate
Craw
Balkman

These guys are the Knicks future. Again 8 wins and 20 plus losses? Wow.......if that isn't a time to start giving the young guys space I dunno what is. If Isiah is gonna be searching.....he needs to end it with the guys I mentioned period.
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1/7/2008  9:23 AM
i have no problem w/phasing out Marbs & starting Nate, but he's not a starting calibre player in my eyes... sorry about misunderstanding u but when someone says elite i assume they're referring to the best of the best... Nate is a solid jumpshooter but that's as far as it goes... if anything i think he's more effective of a scorer when he's penetrating into the paint using his quickness off the dribble & in transition.
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1/7/2008  10:01 AM
Nate has been one of the few bright spots on the team and as the team has plummeted, he has slowly matured and is simply doing literally everything he possibly can to win. Now he just has to do it properly, but I think he's showing he wants to do it and learn.

Now I agree he's not an elite player. Maybe he can become a top shooter someday, but that's gonna take a lot of hard work. He can definitely become a real good bench player on many teams though and there's no shame in that, and I'm sure Nate knows it.

Kudos to Nate for finally putting his head on his shoulders.
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1/7/2008  10:03 AM
You Isiah is about to DNP Nate for about a week and a half for no reason again........ just to spice things up.

Nate could be the best 6th man in the league, if he wasn't a Knicks right now.
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1/7/2008  10:10 AM
The kid is a bonehead which does not bode well for projecting any type of clutch play should the team actually become competitive and actually press to win games.

All I know is we got lots of guys who can score but we don't win games.

He certainly has talent to light it up but so much of his time is garbage time.

Im not saying its all his fault by any means, but Im not excited about any of our players.
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1/7/2008  10:18 AM
I think Nate can play a couple of different ways. He can play off the ball with two other guards on the floor and just hit open jumpers. And he can play as the ball handler when you have a fast defensive lineup out there. I still think we should have a group of players that come off the bench at the same time, like Nate, Lee, Balkman, Chandler, and keep Craw on the floor or play JJ2 at center and take advantage of his versatility.

If he's pressing the other point guard on D, then he's a great strength. That is the key to his value.
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1/7/2008  10:23 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Nobody is putting Nate next to Ray allen. Ray allen is the top of the food chain as far as shooters in the league. I just know if Nate is open that shot is going in. If elite is too strong I'll dumb it down to "as good as anybody in the league" like the nba announcers say so nobody can challenge their credibility.

Future wise, like I said nobody likes Marbs. Right now he is putting up 15/4. Eh......if Marbs is gonna put up 15/4 then Nate needs to be given the job.....@ the very least Isiah needs to stop DNP'ing him.

The Knicks are 8 and 20 something. If Isiah won't trade then make changes from within. Knicks main prob is energy to start games.....you don't have to ask Nate for more cowbell. He is the cowbell. His wife must love him (Alllll right!).

Going forward for the future:
David Lee new player
Chandler new player
Eddy curry new player
Nate new player
Craw new player
Balkman new player

These guys are the Knicks future. Again 8 wins and 20 plus losses? Wow.......if that isn't a time to start giving the young guys space I dunno what is. If Isiah is gonna be searching.....he needs to end it with the guys I mentioned period.

i adjusted your going forward plan above...now really take a look at the new guys I suggest. THAT's what our future should look like.
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1/7/2008  10:26 AM
since his 2 dnp's in mid december:

12/19 cle: 5-10, 0-2 50%
12/21 cha: 8-14, 3-4 57%
12/23 lal: 5-15, 1-7 33%
12/26 orl: 6-12, 3-5 50%
12/30 chi: 7-17, 3-8 41%
1/2 sac: 5-11, 2-5 46%
1/4 sas: 5-9, 2-3 56%
1/5 hou: 9-13, 5-7 70%

we haven't had a knick shoot that well in that long stretch of games in a long long time. he's our best shooter and it seems like now that he's the 6th man, and he's allowed to score, he's doing it in a very efficient manner.
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1/7/2008  10:28 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

since his 2 dnp's in mid december:

12/19 cle: 5-10, 0-2 50%
12/21 cha: 8-14, 3-4 57%
12/23 lal: 5-15, 1-7 33%
12/26 orl: 6-12, 3-5 50%
12/30 chi: 7-17, 3-8 41%
1/2 sac: 5-11, 2-5 46%
1/4 sas: 5-9, 2-3 56%
1/5 hou: 9-13, 5-7 70%

we haven't had a knick shoot that well in that long stretch of games in a long long time. he's our best shooter and it seems like now that he's the 6th man, and he's allowed to score, he's doing it in a very efficient manner.

thats why you were rocking his jersey on saturday night at da club huh?
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1/7/2008  11:03 AM
Nate is on the wrong team and has always been. He's a very good scorer and could be a top notch 6th man on an uptempo team but he will never be what he can be here.
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1/7/2008  1:20 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

since his 2 dnp's in mid december:

12/19 cle: 5-10, 0-2 50%
12/21 cha: 8-14, 3-4 57%
12/23 lal: 5-15, 1-7 33%
12/26 orl: 6-12, 3-5 50%
12/30 chi: 7-17, 3-8 41%
1/2 sac: 5-11, 2-5 46%
1/4 sas: 5-9, 2-3 56%
1/5 hou: 9-13, 5-7 70%

we haven't had a knick shoot that well in that long stretch of games in a long long time. he's our best shooter and it seems like now that he's the 6th man, and he's allowed to score, he's doing it in a very efficient manner.

DJ comes through in the clutch one mo gain.

I wouldn't say allowed to score.......I would say, in a team "full of scorers", Nate is the only one that's not afraid to score, besides Craw of course.

I'm begging fans to stop saying the Knicks are full of scorers cuz everyone on the team is too busy worried about the next man to play basketball. Even the "team leaders" Malik and Q. Malik said in the paper that he wished Isiah would tell him when he was going to play so he can prepare. Q had 2 shouting matches with Isiah in the middle of games.

Anyway, Nate is the only one not afraid. He's not afraid to get benched. He's not afraid to jump up and challenge the rim on defense. He's not afraid to get long rebounds or mix it up with the big boys inside. He is simply not afraid. A lot of his hot shooting games have been while leading a comeback from a 20pts down.

Again....if the Knicks could score they wouldn't go down by 20 all the time!

Whatever anybody thinks of Nate, check his last few games. He's been such a bonehead that he's been our most consistant contributer @ guard.

Again the Knicks are 8 and oblivion.....so Nate is better off the bench? Start eventually phasing out Marbs? wha?

Q is statrting cuz he's our best shooter/defender? Wha? Knicks need energy so they bench Balkman? Wha?

We keep talking Derrick Rose? Ok if the Knicks want ping pong balls.......sorry if the fans want ping pong balls.....then this should be Nate's show.....or is everyone afraid that he would start the Knicks on a roller coaster of winning?
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1/7/2008  1:25 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Nate is on the wrong team and has always been. He's a very good scorer and could be a top notch 6th man on an uptempo team but he will never be what he can be here.

I've always wondered what Nate would've been if he were with the Suns right now.
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1/7/2008  1:28 PM
Posted by K22:
Posted by VDesai:

Nate is on the wrong team and has always been. He's a very good scorer and could be a top notch 6th man on an uptempo team but he will never be what he can be here.

I've always wondered what Nate would've been if he were with the Suns right now.

Or in Portland instead of Jack.
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1/7/2008  1:35 PM
I don't like him as a basketball player, but I do think it's screwed up that he did every single thing the organization asked him to do over the summer and went above and beyond, taking it like a man instead of bitching and screwing up the locker room like the so-called captains of this team.

He made a genuine effort to improve his game and do the things asked of him like a professional when guys who've been in this league since he was in junior high were out showing us how they get closer to God and eating enough to put Oprah to shame, lead by a coach who was in trial every day for sexually harassing a man.

How does Isiah repay him? By yo-yoing him in and out of the lineup with no rhyme or reason. That "depends on the matchups" excuse was bull. You knew the guy was 5'7 when you drafted him. Every time the Knicks said "jump" he said "how high and when?" This cat was flying cross country at the drop of a hat at their request. He did everything except grow. When they told Eddy to jump they had to attach a twinkie to the top of the backboard.
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1/7/2008  1:39 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:

He made a genuine effort to improve his game and do the things asked of him like a professional when guys who've been in this league since he was in junior high were out showing us how they get closer to God and eating enough to put Oprah to shame, lead by a coach who was in trial every day for sexually harassing a man.

HAHAHAHA!!! Win.

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1/7/2008  1:50 PM
I really wonder what this team would look like if our lineup was:

Nate
Craw
Balkman
Lee
Whomever (or maybe play Lee at C, Balk at PF and Chandler at SF)

I think we've had the personnell to run a press and run style team- and I think this would really catch teams off guard in the Eastern conference. The one thing you have is by having a lot of flat talent is that you can run a press and have be able to sub freely. It may not work over long stretches, but we could use it to change the pace of ball games.

I think the Suns took a lot of people by surprise by running that fast a tempo. For a while there, they were leading the league in shot attempts by a significant margin. I think a lot of their initial success was that they brough back the running game to a league where that had gone really stale and it caught everyone off guard that they were playing such a different style of play. They also have excellent talent, so its not like it was a fluke, but you're seeing more and more teams go succesfully to the up tempo again, which dissapeared for more than a decade.
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