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kam77
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1/4/2008  9:25 PM
Is he a keeper? Do we move him to Center? Do we try to trade him?

His contract has three more years on it after this one and gets harder to trade.
This year he is 'only' making 13.3 but in a few years it ends at 17.3mil.
So if he is not a long term fit here, we should look to trade him soon.

So do you agree? Or should we keep the guy and build around him?
I assume most folks think he should be moved and we should commit to Dlee full-time.

With that in mind, would the LA LAkers be interested in Zach at all? His salary is a match with Lamar Odom. Lamar would instantly be our best passer and best option at SF. His contract is also over after next season, saving us two years on Zach's deal.

The Lakers would be getting a PF who is 2 years younger than Lamar and signed long-term to go with Bynum and Kobe. On paper, thats a team that looks very good out West. Although i don't know how Phil feels about Zach. Or Kobe.

What say ye, olde knicks forum. Would we be better off making that deal, and do you think the Lakers would accept?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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djsunyc
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1/4/2008  9:35 PM
out of this entire group, there is not 1 single keeper.

if zach was so desireable, we wouldn't have gotten him for francis/frye.

we got bamboozled.

lakers say NO - impedes bynum's growth.
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1/4/2008  9:41 PM
He's a keeper for now so we can lose as much as possible.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
kam77
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1/4/2008  9:45 PM
Posted by djsunyc:



lakers say NO - impedes bynum's growth.

I thought about this. They would actually make for a good frontcourt playing together since they play different positions and have strengths that only overlap when it comes to rebounding. Bynum isn't ready to be Kobe's sidekick and carry that offensive load just yet. So this would allow him to grow at his own pace on offense.

We really need the cap space... so I'd include anyone with a small enough contract short of Lee and the #1 pick to move ZBo.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/4/2008  9:48 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by djsunyc:



lakers say NO - impedes bynum's growth.

I thought about this. They would actually make for a good frontcourt playing together since they play different positions and have strengths that only overlap when it comes to rebounding. Bynum isn't ready to be Kobe's sidekick and carry that offensive load just yet. So this would allow him to grow at his own pace on offense.

We really need the cap space... so I'd include anyone with a small enough contract short of Lee and the #1 pick to move ZBo.

nope. that's now how it works. bynum needs touches. zach around equals zero touches.

come on kam...look at the cess pool that is the knicks offense and you think ANYBODY with another big man around wants zach?

teams that MAY be interested...seattle (although i don't know if presti will want to bring in this dunderhead), chicago (same goes for paxson) and that's all i can really think of. maybe we can deal with jordan down in charlotte since he's not a good gm either.
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1/4/2008  9:49 PM
I don't think Randolph would impede Bynum's growth. With a good coach like phil I think Randolph and be pretty good. anway the default answer to this question is yes you do trade Randolph because everyone on this roster save maybe 1 or 2 guys should be traded.
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1/4/2008  9:50 PM
maybe philly since dalembert requires zero touches.
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1/4/2008  9:56 PM
Posted by SlimPack:

I don't think Randolph would impede Bynum's growth. With a good coach like phil I think Randolph and be pretty good. anway the default answer to this question is yes you do trade Randolph because everyone on this roster save maybe 1 or 2 guys should be traded.

lakers had a shot to get him last year...and passed. odom does way more for that offense than zach would. that offense requires alot of passing. zach ain't the right fit for it.
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1/4/2008  9:58 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by djsunyc:



lakers say NO - impedes bynum's growth.

I thought about this. They would actually make for a good frontcourt playing together since they play different positions and have strengths that only overlap when it comes to rebounding. Bynum isn't ready to be Kobe's sidekick and carry that offensive load just yet. So this would allow him to grow at his own pace on offense.

We really need the cap space... so I'd include anyone with a small enough contract short of Lee and the #1 pick to move ZBo.

nope. that's now how it works. bynum needs touches. zach around equals zero touches.

come on kam...look at the cess pool that is the knicks offense and you think ANYBODY with another big man around wants zach?

teams that MAY be interested...seattle (although i don't know if presti will want to bring in this dunderhead), chicago (same goes for paxson) and that's all i can really think of. maybe we can deal with jordan down in charlotte since he's not a good gm either.

You may be on the money about Bynum needing the ball and the Lakers having no interest. I don't know. Zach has his warts but selfishness can be cured by a strong coach and a clear role as banana #2.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/4/2008  9:58 PM
Dallas could use someone like Zach- he would fit nicely with dirk & his bad habits (inability to pass) would be broken on that team.

However, his contract is a beast, and though small now, it balloons and no team would take him on.
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1/4/2008  9:59 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by djsunyc:



lakers say NO - impedes bynum's growth.

I thought about this. They would actually make for a good frontcourt playing together since they play different positions and have strengths that only overlap when it comes to rebounding. Bynum isn't ready to be Kobe's sidekick and carry that offensive load just yet. So this would allow him to grow at his own pace on offense.

We really need the cap space... so I'd include anyone with a small enough contract short of Lee and the #1 pick to move ZBo.

nope. that's now how it works. bynum needs touches. zach around equals zero touches.

come on kam...look at the cess pool that is the knicks offense and you think ANYBODY with another big man around wants zach?

teams that MAY be interested...seattle (although i don't know if presti will want to bring in this dunderhead), chicago (same goes for paxson) and that's all i can really think of. maybe we can deal with jordan down in charlotte since he's not a good gm either.

You may be on the money about Bynum needing the ball and the Lakers having no interest. I don't know. Zach has his warts but selfishness can be cured by a strong coach and a clear role as banana #2.

everyone in the league can succeed...but to trade for zach is a huge gamble. the lakers are not in a position to make a gamble. and zach is not only a gamble on the court, but a gamble on the cap as well. you have to find desperate teams to acquire a guy like zach.
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1/4/2008  10:00 PM
So what do we DO with him?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
kam77
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1/4/2008  10:05 PM
Would Cleveland take him?

Straight up for Big Z works.
Or for Eric Snow+Donyell Marshall.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/4/2008  10:09 PM
Posted by kam77:

So what do we DO with him?

it's going to be tough to get rid of him.

i don't think there's a talent swap here if we move zach. it would have to be a dump for shorter deals. we should hope to get a 2nd rounder or some young player as part of the deal.

but until that happens, you have to continue to start zach and eddy together.
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1/4/2008  10:14 PM
There has to be some GM somewhere trying to save his job that will make a trade for him at the deadline. He is too skilled to be so undesirable. It doesn't add up. Every media guy was puzzled when Portland traded him for "so little". Do you think maybe Portland's recent success is hurting his value? I mean. what the hell he started off with 4 straight double-doubles... there has to be a market for a big man with his skills.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/4/2008  10:17 PM
Posted by kam77:

There has to be some GM somewhere trying to save his job that will make a trade for him at the deadline. He is too skilled to be so undesirable. It doesn't add up. Every media guy was puzzled when Portland traded him for "so little". Do you think maybe Portland's recent success is hurting his value? I mean. what the hell he started off with 4 straight double-doubles... there has to be a market for a big man with his skills.

the market is not as big b/c of his contract. if the guy had 2 years on his deal, maybe, but right now, he's got 3 more years at huge money. but that's the point, gotta find gm's that are desperate. there is also alot of baggage with zbo and alot of teams/owners don't want to deal with that. and that plays a huge factor.
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1/4/2008  10:20 PM
miami might want him
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1/4/2008  10:40 PM
Lets hold on to Zach so we can keep Lee from starting.
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1/4/2008  10:50 PM
Zach straight up for Ben Wallace?
kam77
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1/4/2008  10:52 PM
That was proposed and shot down in another thread. Something about him not wanting to play here.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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