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BlacKat
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1/2/2008  8:06 AM
Artest: I Can Fix Knicks
January 2, 2008 - 7:09 am
New York Post -
Ron Artest told The Post he is scheduled to have surgery today in New York on his right elbow to remove bone chips, forcing him to miss his lone Garden appearance tonight when the Knicks host the Kings.

After getting a second opinion from his former doctor at St. John's over the last few days, Artest believes he'll be back in two to four weeks. And when he's back healthy, yes, Artest, the Queensbridge product said, he would approve getting dealt to his hometown team and thinks he can reverse the Knicks' catastrophic situation.

"Anywhere I go, I can turn things around, given the opportunity," Artest said. "I definitely would not be opposed to it if that is my calling. I would not be opposed if something would happen [with the Knicks]. But I just want to win a championship." [READ]
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1/2/2008  8:18 AM
Theres already 3 psychos in this organization, we don't need a 4th.
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1/2/2008  8:55 AM
He has done nothing for the Kings...and remember Marbury wanted to play here really badly too and how has that turned out?
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1/2/2008  9:05 AM
NO MORE NEW YORK LOCAL PRODUCTS PLEASE.
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1/2/2008  9:05 AM
Ron, brad miller and bibby for lee, marbs, and curry

Explanation? Salary dump for Sactown as well as getting david and curry to play 4-5 for them. They already have martin, beno and salmons.

Lee
Salmons
Curry
Beno
Martin

Now that's a nice line-up.

NY?
Zach
Ron ron
Brad miller
Bibby
Craw

Nice, nice, nice!!! Still no shot blocking but this team looks like the webber team in sacramento. Brad miller is a tough bastard that rebounds, passes and can hit the jumper. Ron ron is who he is.......bibby can't play defense outside of some steals but he can play offense. He would be isiahs true extention. Dude can hit a jumpshot and let the passes fly to the right guys.

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1/2/2008  9:15 AM
We have to consider the source when it comes to this. The NY POST will take an innocent throw away quote and turn it into a back page headline. Remember a few weeks ago when the Lakers were in town they had Kobe wanting to come here.

[Edited by - jessedark on 01-02-2008 09:32 AM]
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1/2/2008  9:23 AM
Posted by BlacKat:

"Anywhere I go, I can turn things around, given the opportunity," Artest said. "I definitely would not be opposed to it if that is my calling. I would not be opposed if something would happen [with the Knicks]. But I just want to win a championship."

Ronnie really is crazy if he thinks he can come in here & change this team's fortunes enough to win a title... but at this point i'd welcome him w/open arms... anything to see some improvement at the 3 spot & add some defense to this pitifully defensively inept squad.

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1/2/2008  9:41 AM
No way. That would be a disaster. We could never get rid off this guy.
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1/2/2008  9:48 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:

No way. That would be a disaster. We could never get rid off this guy.

We could never get rid off the guys we have now anyway.
This trade is impossible bacuse this is Isiah capitulation.
He is proud animal and will never give up.
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1/2/2008  10:11 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Ron, brad miller and bibby for lee, marbs, and curry

Explanation? Salary dump for Sactown as well as getting david and curry to play 4-5 for them. They already have martin, beno and salmons.

Lee
Salmons
Curry
Beno
Martin

Now that's a nice line-up.

NY?
Zach
Ron ron
Brad miller
Bibby
Craw

Nice, nice, nice!!! Still no shot blocking but this team looks like the webber team in sacramento. Brad miller is a tough bastard that rebounds, passes and can hit the jumper. Ron ron is who he is.......bibby can't play defense outside of some steals but he can play offense. He would be isiahs true extention. Dude can hit a jumpshot and let the passes fly to the right guys.

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i think those 3 guys coming from SAC improve this team tremendously... the only problem is that deal doesn't offer SAC any kind of cap relief at all & very little chance of improving them, so why would they make the deal? Marbury's contract runs the same length as Bibby's, & Miller's deal expires a year earlier than Curry's does... plus any deal for Artest will have to involve a S&T, otherwise SAC can simply allow him to opt out of his deal or try & trade him next season when his contract is expiring & get value that way.

i think a more realistic deal is something like:

Marbury, D Lee, Malik, Chandler, Morris & Jones for Artest, Miller, Kenny Thomas, Udrih & Douby

- that deal gives SAC about $20 million in cap relief after next season along w/some young players they have locked up for cheap for the next couple seasons that are serviceable at the very least... they will have to pay D Lee on a contract extension after next season, but he's a huge upgrade over KT & younger, so i don't see why they'd have a problem with that... it also opens up playing time for their young lottery pick Spencer Hawes to get some real burn at the C position & hands over the starting spot to John Salmons who was playing lights out when Artest was injured this season.

- it gives the Knicks the top defensive SF in the game who comes w/major baggage but at least Artest is productive & doesn't have a max contract... also adds some shotblocking to the C position, something we are sorely lacking, & since Miller can work from the midrange & high post, it will open up the paint for Zach to score more in the low post & stop taking those low percentage perimeter jumpers all the time... Udrih isn't spectacular as a starter, but he's a pretty good scorer & can knock down an open 3... his team defense could use some work but he's a pretty solid on ball defender.

C - Miller / Curry / Turd
PF - Zach / KT
SF - Artest / Balkman / Jefferies
SG - Jamal / Q Rich / Douby
PG - Udrih / Nate / Mardy

still, that team is a #6-#7 seed team at best for the next 3 years... so if u just wanna be somewhat competitive until some of those contracts start to come off the books & maybe make the playoffs, then this is the way to go... but if you wanna go for a draft pick this year & get a potentially big impact player to start the rebuilding now, then the best thing to do is to stand pat & deal w/the crappy basketball for the next couple years.
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1/2/2008  10:13 AM
I think we have more than enough headcases at the moment.
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1/2/2008  10:23 AM
Posted by K22:

I think we have more than enough headcases at the moment.

trading Marbury in the process of getting Artest nets the same result from a mental health standpoint.
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1/2/2008  1:21 PM
Knicks can't have curry and miller. It will lead to diarrea.

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1/2/2008  1:26 PM
This is just elbow surgery, if it were micro-fracture surgery I'd consider him as good as ours.
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1/2/2008  2:52 PM
I'd take him for Curry in a second.

I don't know that I would call Artest a leader, but he is tough enough and crazy enough to get Randolph to pass the ball out of the post. I think a few games playing with Randolph and Jamal(playing the position of pg) and Artest would send a message to these two ballhogs and bad shot takers. I think they might even be afraid to shoot for a few games after that.

Plus he is injured, so now is a great time to get him.
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1/2/2008  2:53 PM
if Artest really wants to be a Knick then he better be more than happy to sign the MLE, otherwise he should just stop talking and giving Isiah ideas.
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1/2/2008  4:45 PM
Ron is perfect for us.

Trade Lee and Q or Craw. Those are good guys. WE need to keep Curry!

I think we should try to get the must phuched up team possible!!!

THe lower the IQ the better.

THen bring in Skiles to ride them hard and watch them implode!!!!

I want the all time dysfuntionalist team. The more Dysfuntionalier the better!

Lets make history right!!!!!

We need

Curry
Zach
Ron
Marbury
Stephon Jackson!

Keep Nate!!! You can't get dumbier guys like this. We need to extend this kid also!!!!! Don't let him get a way.
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1/2/2008  5:01 PM
Sacramento wont trade with us so give it a rest guys. The only thing I am going to think will happen is Artest signing with us in the offseason. We should just buckle down and get that pick.

No trades! We dont want to trade for any misguided idealists who want to win a couple of games here and there and ruin our chances at a good pick. No trades!
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1/2/2008  5:40 PM
Posted by subzero0:

Sacramento wont trade with us so give it a rest guys. The only thing I am going to think will happen is Artest signing with us in the offseason. We should just buckle down and get that pick.

No trades! We dont want to trade for any misguided idealists who want to win a couple of games here and there and ruin our chances at a good pick. No trades!

That still won't help matters if we're still dealing with the same coach/GM next year. Time for an over-haul from top to bottom. The experiment just did not work.

Somebody Help my Knicks!!!
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