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12/27/2007  11:45 AM
Randolph, the Knicks' second leading scorer at 18.0 ppg and top rebounder at 10.3, sounded miffed at the demotion.

"I haven't come off the bench in six or seven years, so I was shocked," he said. "I don't plan on coming off no bench for the rest of the season."

The seventh-year power forward scoffed when asked if he thought he had to play his way back to the starting lineup.

"I didn't play my way out of it, I don't think," said Randolph.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske...gic-3.html


The fact Zach said he was shocked leads me to believe I SAY UGH is still playing back stabbing mind games with this team.
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12/27/2007  11:46 AM
back stabbing mind games? or is this team basically uncoachable?
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12/27/2007  11:46 AM
Yeah Zach will do whatever it takes to help the team win, he's a great teammate.

This is the exact reason Portland dealt this cancer malcontent. He's a bum and a baby to the highest degree.
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12/27/2007  11:54 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

back stabbing mind games? or is this team basically uncoachable?

Well we know the answer to the second question but I have a hunch all the while leading up to the game Zach was led on he'd be starting. I bet I SAY UGH had Zach featured a lot in practice more so than any other player. He probably ran very few sets for Curry and then game time tip-off "WINSLOW HAVE A SEAT"!
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12/27/2007  12:16 PM
This is the exact reason Portland dealt this cancer malcontent. He's a bum and a baby to the highest degree.

Your the team's leading rebounder and 2nd leader scorer you get yanked from the starting line-up okay fine. However Q Brick whose lucky if he even hits the rim on his shots, and Eddy Curry who has totally mailed in this season all start. But thats right he's the jerk for thinking that he should get a nod before any of these guys?

Come on be fair about this Zach getting benched was unfair. Whether you hate his game or not he's hardly the biggest problem in our starting lineup. Outside of maybe Jamal and thats being generous the rest of the starters have been playing absolutely atrocious.

I think its bs that fans would get criticize him for having a very natural reaction about his benching. Any athlete in his position would be pissed and for good reason.

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12/27/2007  12:21 PM
You have a right to be pissed if you're benched. I understand that Zach is. However, we're a losing team. A horribly losing losing team. Isiah clearly has to experiment with the starting lineup now because we keep getting into these holes. Therefore, how about Zach keep his pissed offness to himself and prove to Isiah that he's a moron for benching him instead of yapping at the NY media. THE NY FREAKING MEDIA. Zachy has a lot to learn.
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12/27/2007  12:39 PM

All we need now is Isiah calling Zach delusional for it to officially be groundhog day.
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12/27/2007  12:40 PM
Memo to Zach:

Tell Isiah you'll bury him in dirt, then go AWOL. You're sure to be invited back for your leadership and given at least 34 mins per game.
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Posted by Allanfan20:

You have a right to be pissed if you're benched. I understand that Zach is. However, we're a losing team. A horribly losing losing team. Isiah clearly has to experiment with the starting lineup now because we keep getting into these holes. Therefore, how about Zach keep his pissed offness to himself and prove to Isiah that he's a moron for benching him instead of yapping at the NY media. THE NY FREAKING MEDIA. Zachy has a lot to learn.


Look you get a mike shoved in your face and your asked if you agree with your benching most players wouldn't have responded differently. Sorry I just think this is a bunch ado about nothing. Now if Zach said something like "Eddy Curry is a worthless piece of shyt" then maybe but hey that would just be him voicing what everyone else is thinking.
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12/27/2007  12:44 PM
bitty is right.

whether you like Zach as a player or not, to choose to bench him instead of Curry is just more of Isiah's wrists handcuffed to the ankles style of management that has the team more ****ed now then they ever were under Layden.

I'm glad Zach is showing in the press that he has no respect for Isiah. he and Marbury are the only 2 guys who give NY a chance at at least being respectable and he has ****ted on them both in favor of his prize pets Crawful and McCurry.

right now IT is the face of the franchise and he brought in Zach knowing his approach to the game just like he brought in Steph knowing his approach to the game (and backed him against a good vet like Kurt 2 HoF coaches and loyal to a fault Herb). Isiah said F professionalism with the way he handled Cheney. Anything that makes him look like even worse of an incompetent jackass I'm all for.

plz show no mercy!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited by - McK1 on 27-12-2007 12:45 PM]
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12/27/2007  12:47 PM
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Allanfan20:

You have a right to be pissed if you're benched. I understand that Zach is. However, we're a losing team. A horribly losing losing team. Isiah clearly has to experiment with the starting lineup now because we keep getting into these holes. Therefore, how about Zach keep his pissed offness to himself and prove to Isiah that he's a moron for benching him instead of yapping at the NY media. THE NY FREAKING MEDIA. Zachy has a lot to learn.


Look you get a mike shoved in your face and your asked if you agree with your benching most players wouldn't have responded differently. Sorry I just think this is a bunch ado about nothing. Now if Zach said something like "Eddy Curry is a worthless piece of shyt" then maybe but hey that would just be him voicing what everyone else is thinking.


OK what about him saying he was "shocked"? And reflecting back over his yrs in the league. That comment could be taken as "Even as bad as things were in PDX at times, I was never benched once a starter".
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12/27/2007  12:53 PM
Okay so? He was never bench in Portland okay he mentions this no big deal. Seriously I know this sounds like my usual Zach defense rhethoric but I really see absolutely nothing wrong with his response. He's been getting the shaft lately from Isiah so I understand him being frustrated.
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12/27/2007  12:55 PM
I don't like what Zach said and wish he decided not to speak out. But when you create chaos this is what you will get in return. Isiah benched a guy that did not deserve to be benched. What did anyone expect the response to be.
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12/27/2007  1:00 PM
I don't fault Zach. Nobody is happy on this team, and even when guys say the right thing it sounds hollow. For instance Crawford always says the right thing but then puts up a stinker on the floor. None of these guys ever tell the truth until they're off the team anyway, Then the call us a circus and remark on how happy they are to finally be on a team that plays together. Anything else is just fudging in front of the mic.
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12/27/2007  1:00 PM
Posted by bitty41:

Okay so? He was never bench in Portland okay he mentions this no big deal. Seriously I know this sounds like my usual Zach defense rhethoric but I really see absolutely nothing wrong with his response. He's been getting the shaft lately from Isiah so I understand him being frustrated.


I don't think Zach should have said a word and left it at "It's the coach's decision". There's a certain way you should go about your Biz as a professional. I don't fault Zach though vs I SAY UGH playing these games and constructing moves that prove to backfire in his face. Therefore I'm happy Zach spoke out.
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12/27/2007  1:02 PM
I honestly don't see how Isiah's infatuation with his Chicago boys Eddy and Q, is any different than Larry starting players in their hometowns. Both remain in the starting lineup because Isiah's more concerned about feelings, homeboys and not admitting Isiah the GM is an idiot than he is about winning games.
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Posted by nysportsfan11:

I honestly don't see how Isiah's infatuation with his Chicago boys Eddy and Q, is any different than Larry starting players in their hometowns. Both remain in the starting lineup because Isiah's more concerned about feelings, homeboys and not admitting Isiah the GM is an idiot than he is about winning games.

I buy that. Curry has no business in the line-up right now. I love Q. He's been my favorite Knick for the bast 3 years, but it's clear that he needs to sit. IF Isiah's loyalty is truly to winning he would not be benching the path to least resistance.
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12/27/2007  1:08 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:

I honestly don't see how Isiah's infatuation with his Chicago boys Eddy and Q, is any different than Larry starting players in their hometowns. Both remain in the starting lineup because Isiah's more concerned about feelings, homeboys and not admitting Isiah the GM is an idiot than he is about winning games.

I see a big difference in the two. LB gave every player an opportunity for motivation during the season by doing that. At least that was his goal. Meanwhile I SAY UGH is coddling his big splash acquisitions while ****ting on other players who are more deserving. It's really not the same at all.
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Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by nysportsfan11:

I honestly don't see how Isiah's infatuation with his Chicago boys Eddy and Q, is any different than Larry starting players in their hometowns. Both remain in the starting lineup because Isiah's more concerned about feelings, homeboys and not admitting Isiah the GM is an idiot than he is about winning games.

I see a big difference in the two. LB gave every player an opportunity for motivation during the season by doing that. At least that was his goal. Meanwhile I SAY UGH is coddling his big splash acquisitions while ****ting on other players who are more deserving. It's really not the same at all.

It wasn't for motivation purposes. It was to show Isiah that he had crappy players when it came down to being able to win games and he was right. His whole reasoning for not having a set rotation was that no matter what combo he threw out there nothing was going to stick because he had 3 and 4 of the same player at each position.

He did it in hopes that Isiah would take a hint and bring in winners with complementary pieces or that the pieces he had would man up and fall in line by sacrificing their stats and previous mentalities for the sake of winning. Instead of listening to the hall of fame coach with the ring, Isiah listened to the cry baby players who thought the Big Bad Bladder Man was coming to take their platinum pacifiers away. It was a gimmick move that would have worked on a real GM but was lost on an idiot who has no business masquerading as a sports executive.

Both were ridiculous (Larry could have gone about his plans differently and more professionally). The only difference between keeping Q and Eddy in the lineup for no apparent reason and starting a new lineup every 2 or 3 games is that Larry's is excusable because he had an ultimate goal of winning and was obviously right about this band of losers. Isiah's just trying to cover his ass and save his $24 million while holding on to his last job in pro sports for dear life.
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12/27/2007  1:33 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by nysportsfan11:

I honestly don't see how Isiah's infatuation with his Chicago boys Eddy and Q, is any different than Larry starting players in their hometowns. Both remain in the starting lineup because Isiah's more concerned about feelings, homeboys and not admitting Isiah the GM is an idiot than he is about winning games.

I see a big difference in the two. LB gave every player an opportunity for motivation during the season by doing that. At least that was his goal. Meanwhile I SAY UGH is coddling his big splash acquisitions while ****ting on other players who are more deserving. It's really not the same at all.

It wasn't for motivation purposes. It was to show Isiah that he had crappy players when it came down to being able to win games and he was right. His whole reasoning for not having a set rotation was that no matter what combo he threw out there nothing was going to stick because he had 3 and 4 of the same player at each position.

He did it in hopes that Isiah would take a hint and bring in winners with complementary pieces or that the pieces he had would man up and fall in line by sacrificing their stats and previous mentalities for the sake of winning. Instead of listening to the hall of fame coach with the ring, Isiah listened to the cry baby players who thought the Big Bad Bladder Man was coming to take their platinum pacifiers away. It was a gimmick move that would have worked on a real GM but was lost on an idiot who has no business masquerading as a sports executive.

Both were ridiculous (Larry could have gone about his plans differently and more professionally). The only difference between keeping Q and Eddy in the lineup for no apparent reason and starting a new lineup every 2 or 3 games is that Larry's is excusable because he had an ultimate goal of winning and was obviously right about this band of losers. Isiah's just trying to cover his ass and save his $24 million while holding on to his last job in pro sports for dear life.


I'd give you a bottle of Corona for this post.

Larry was also told who to play and not to play so I'm not buying that all his line-up changes were all his doing.
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