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Ira
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12/23/2007  8:05 AM
I haven't seen this posted yet.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-spkobe1223,0,769463.story
BY KEN BERGER | ken.berger@newsday.com
December 23, 2007
Kobe Bryant strolled down the hallway of what they now call Wachovia Center in Philadelphia on Friday night and smiled when he came across an old friend. By that, we mean an old friend.

Bryant's whole body seemed to relax as he embraced Sonny Hill, founder of the famous Philadelphia youth basketball league that bears his name and has produced such NBA All-Stars as Bryant, Rasheed Wallace and Rip Hamilton, not to mention Kobe's father, Joe "Jellybean" Bryant.

Hill is one of the few people who truly have a window into Bryant's complicated mind. He has known Kobe as long as he has been alive -- or longer.

"I've known him," Hill said, "since before he was born."

On Sunday, Bryant will walk into Madison Square Garden for his first appearance there in nearly two years, needing 20 points to become the youngest player in NBA history to score 20,000. After an offseason of 20,000 trade demands and just as many doses of animosity, the Lakers' superstar finally has settled down. But it seems only temporary.

After staying quiet about his desire to be traded since the beginning of the season, Bryant opened up Saturday after practice at an Upper East Side health club.

Yes, the Knicks were on the list of four teams he asked to be traded to late last spring, Bryant acknowledged for the first time Saturday to a small group of reporters. And, he said, no teams have been taken off the list.

"They were, yeah," Bryant said when asked if the Knicks were among the teams for which he'd agree to waive his no-trade clause. After the Knicks and Bulls, Bryant said it was the Mavericks and Suns, marking the first time he has publicly disclosed the list.

The Knicks, who declined to comment Saturday on their role in the Bryant saga, have been aware since the summer that they were among his chosen teams. The situation never advanced beyond exploratory talks, though.

Bryant's answers Saturday to a series of questions about his level of happiness with the Lakers, the mechanics and details of his trade request, and where he goes from here, qualified as his most revealing comments since he announced, then sort of rescinded his public trade demand in late May and early June.

And though Bryant has patched things up with 20-year-old center Andrew Bynum, whom he infamously ripped in an amateur video, and has grown satisfied with what he describes as a "solid" team, he realizes that the Lakers are not championship contenders. Not yet. Not even close.

More to the point, Bryant isn't sure how much longer he can afford to wait.

Asked if he removed the Knicks from consideration in mid-October because of the uncertainty and turmoil churning at Madison Square Garden, Bryant said: "No, I just kind of pushed everything to the back burner and stopped thinking about trades. It wasn't something where I was scratching teams off or anything like that. I just stopped thinking about it because once the season got under way, my focus had to be here. It couldn't be split, because I'd be doing a disservice to my teammates."

Asked if the list still is on the back burner and if his formal trade request still is on the table, Bryant said: "Call Mitch Kupchak and see what he thinks about that. I don't get into that ... It's all what Mitch wants to do, really. Mitch and Dr. Buss. It's all on them. They can either trade me or not trade me. It's completely their decision."

Well, yes and no, as we saw during the many twists and turns of Kobe's "trade me ... I want to be a Laker for life" summer.

As the only player in the NBA with a complete no-trade clause, Bryant can veto any deal. Though he is surprised that the Knicks have spiraled so rapidly, he wouldn't rule out a trade to New York if it were presented to him.

"I would look at it as just another challenge to prove that you can win," Bryant said. "That's how I would approach it. I wouldn't be down about it. I'd just work that much harder to try to prove that if we do work hard, we can win ballgames.

"Every storm passes," said Bryant, who then was asked if the chaos surrounding the Knicks and their embattled coach, Isiah Thomas, would frighten him.

Said Bryant, "I don't scare too easily."....



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12/23/2007  8:21 AM
After the Knicks and Bulls, Bryant said it was the Mavericks and Suns, marking the first time he has publicly disclosed the list.

scratch the Mavs & Suns off the list cuz the Lakers aren't trading him w/in their division... that leaves us & the Bulls... i've been saying it since this whole Kobe trade demand situation surfaced... i see Isiah making a push to trade for Kobe in the offseason, & if he's got that lottery pick he's gonna use it to get him if he can.
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12/23/2007  8:59 AM
Posted by TMS:
After the Knicks and Bulls, Bryant said it was the Mavericks and Suns, marking the first time he has publicly disclosed the list.

scratch the Mavs & Suns off the list cuz the Lakers aren't trading him w/in their division... that leaves us & the Bulls... i've been saying it since this whole Kobe trade demand situation surfaced... i see Isiah making a push to trade for Kobe in the offseason, & if he's got that lottery pick he's gonna use it to get him if he can.

Marbury Expiring + Rose Expiring + Draft Pick for Kobe? It might take one more player...

It's a New York Kind of move!

I would do it. I have watched some of these lottery kids a little and I don't see a Kobe. Kobe, Zach, Curry, Lee, and a reasonable PG like Blake or Jack would make some noise. Also we would need to ditch Q for a real shooter, I can see Balkman or Collins having a place in that mix. It's not a championship team though. However, it would be nice to have the best plauyer on the floor again, it has been so long...

oohah

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12/23/2007  9:24 AM
Rose, Crawford, curry, and a 1st round pick for Kobe. Get er done.
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12/23/2007  9:35 AM
Yes, the Knicks were on the list of four teams he asked to be traded to late last spring, Bryant acknowledged for the first time Saturday to a small group of reporters. And, he said, no teams have been taken off the list.

"They were, yeah," Bryant said when asked if the Knicks were among the teams for which he'd agree to waive his no-trade clause. After the Knicks and Bulls, Bryant said it was the Mavericks and Suns, marking the first time he has publicly disclosed the list.


So, well, yeah...we can just all calm down. Also it amazes me how the NY media ALWAYS has a trade rumor for a player of a team that we're about to play against. They always do this so again...whatever.

Finally anyone that thinks Kobe Bryant can prevent Crawful from chucking, Mardy, Q and Jeffries from sucking, Zach and Curry to learn how to play defense is again sucked into the WE'RE ONE MOVE AWAY FROM CONTENDING - HES THE MISSING PIECE ideal that has plagued our fan base for YEARS all due to the Isiah Thomas quick fix trade schemes.

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12/23/2007  9:54 AM
zach would fit better on the lakers with bynum than curry.

I think by the next off season, curry will have slightly more trade value to teams than oliver miller.
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12/23/2007  10:47 AM
Honestly I would trade the Lakers anything they want for Kobe. Worse comes to worse is that we have to get new ones... which would actually be prefect
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12/23/2007  10:51 AM
lee would be a better fit for the lakers and bynum
cheaper and not going to over whelm him or be a bad influents
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12/23/2007  12:53 PM
lakers are now 1 player away from contending for a title. kobe is going nowhere.
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12/23/2007  12:57 PM
Kobe is going absolutely nowhere. Buss ain't trading him. Forget about it.
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12/23/2007  2:08 PM
Kobe loves the city (and not just Midtown like most tourists), loves Knick fans and understands what it would mean to play here. But once Phil signed that extension and the Lakers started playing well, as long as Bynum keeps improving and L.O. stays healthy, Kobe's not going anywhere. Those quotes are just Kobe being Kobe and entertaining the media. Kobe's a competitive, moody dude so the slightest thing could set him off, but I doubt it. He's not stupid enough to come here and be a one man show.
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12/23/2007  2:36 PM
Posted by TMS:
After the Knicks and Bulls, Bryant said it was the Mavericks and Suns, marking the first time he has publicly disclosed the list.

scratch the Mavs & Suns off the list cuz the Lakers aren't trading him w/in their division... that leaves us & the Bulls... i've been saying it since this whole Kobe trade demand situation surfaced... i see Isiah making a push to trade for Kobe in the offseason, & if he's got that lottery pick he's gonna use it to get him if he can.


Will you stop being so gullible and eating up anything said regarding this subject. The media wants to give us NYK fans something to talk about other than this terrible team. Kobe ain't coming here.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-24-2007 02:33 AM]
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12/24/2007  3:30 AM
Posted by Cosmic:
Yes, the Knicks were on the list of four teams he asked to be traded to late last spring, Bryant acknowledged for the first time Saturday to a small group of reporters. And, he said, no teams have been taken off the list.

"They were, yeah," Bryant said when asked if the Knicks were among the teams for which he'd agree to waive his no-trade clause. After the Knicks and Bulls, Bryant said it was the Mavericks and Suns, marking the first time he has publicly disclosed the list.


So, well, yeah...we can just all calm down. Also it amazes me how the NY media ALWAYS has a trade rumor for a player of a team that we're about to play against. They always do this so again...whatever.

Finally anyone that thinks Kobe Bryant can prevent Crawful from chucking, Mardy, Q and Jeffries from sucking, Zach and Curry to learn how to play defense is again sucked into the WE'RE ONE MOVE AWAY FROM CONTENDING - HES THE MISSING PIECE ideal that has plagued our fan base for YEARS all due to the Isiah Thomas quick fix trade schemes.

the article says nothing about him changing his mind as to wanting to come here dude... why shouldn't we be talking about it? it's obviously going to be a big topic again as soon as the season is over, especially if the Knicks get a top lottery pick.
Asked if he removed the Knicks from consideration in mid-October because of the uncertainty and turmoil churning at Madison Square Garden, Bryant said: "No, I just kind of pushed everything to the back burner and stopped thinking about trades.
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12/24/2007  3:33 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by TMS:
After the Knicks and Bulls, Bryant said it was the Mavericks and Suns, marking the first time he has publicly disclosed the list.

scratch the Mavs & Suns off the list cuz the Lakers aren't trading him w/in their division... that leaves us & the Bulls... i've been saying it since this whole Kobe trade demand situation surfaced... i see Isiah making a push to trade for Kobe in the offseason, & if he's got that lottery pick he's gonna use it to get him if he can.


Will you stop being so gullible and eating up anything said regarding this subject. The media wants to gives us NYL fans something to talk about other than this terrible team. Kobe ain't coming here.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-23-2007 1:37 PM]

the stories are out there & all i've ever said from the beginning is that the Knicks are gonna be 1 of the teams that Kobe will want to be traded to... u ragged on me all year about it... how about you acknowledge the fact that you were wrong & be a man for once?

[Edited by - TMS on 12-24-2007 04:54 AM]
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12/24/2007  5:54 AM
Phil Jackson says no to Kobe in NY
The Knicks held exploratory talks with the Lakers last summer, but Lakers coach Phil Jackson downplayed the Knicks as a destination for Bryant, citing that he wants to play for a championship contender and the Knicks don't have much to offer.

Jackson scoffed at the Knicks being on Bryant's short list. "He was just being kind to New York," he said. "There just isn't any comparable situations, giving up diamonds for some (Garnetts)," Jackson said, referring to the cheap stone, garnet, not the Celtics' superstar center, Kevin Garnett. "That wasn't a serious issue." Jackson said he doubts Bryant will be traded this year, but mentioned things could come to a head eventually since he can opt out after the 2008-09 season.
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12/24/2007  8:01 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

lakers are now 1 player away from contending for a title. kobe is going nowhere.

Bynum is that player.. he just needs a couple years or so. Kobe will be winning titles with him in his 30's.

Crazy the Lakers passed on Frye.. best player in the draft
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Kobe: I would allow trade to Knicks

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