Posted by BigSm00th:

Q is really a delusional guy man, for being the worst player int he NBA and getting millions to do so, you wouldn't think he'd have anything to complain about

Posted by Vmart:

Isiah isn't going anywhere he is here to stay atleast for the entire year. So why are you guys busting his azz he knows now better than anyone the type of players he brought in and to be honest with you there are players that want out because of the losing atmosaphere that is NY sorry folks but I really don't think the next GM is going to be any better NY has way to much negativity to be any good. In this town its not basketball but to much a way of life, the media builds players up to bring them down and the fans are no better.

Isiah now knows that the players he brought in have flaws he learned it first hand and Dolan although made a blind move to place Isiah as a coach taught Isiah first hand that he brought in crap. Isiah is a GM and now his faith in his players being questioned you would think he will make moves lets just hope that the moves he makes now will be at the end of the season and doesn't involve the number one pick that the knicks have.

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by Vmart:

Isiah isn't going anywhere he is here to stay atleast for the entire year. So why are you guys busting his azz he knows now better than anyone the type of players he brought in and to be honest with you there are players that want out because of the losing atmosaphere that is NY sorry folks but I really don't think the next GM is going to be any better NY has way to much negativity to be any good. In this town its not basketball but to much a way of life, the media builds players up to bring them down and the fans are no better.

Isiah now knows that the players he brought in have flaws he learned it first hand and Dolan although made a blind move to place Isiah as a coach taught Isiah first hand that he brought in crap. Isiah is a GM and now his faith in his players being questioned you would think he will make moves lets just hope that the moves he makes now will be at the end of the season and doesn't involve the number one pick that the knicks have.

Isiah blows and there is no excuses for that. There is also no guarantee he survives the whole year. Isiah making trades got us into this mess. If you support him making more, then you only want to continue losing and winning 33 games a year.

And please, use some periods at some point. Too many run-on sentences.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 12-21-2007 10:47 PM]

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Bippity10:

I can't wait for Nixluva to tell us that our team isn't perfect but that fights like this are showing us that they are starting to figure things out.

You haven't read any posts by me making any such statements. I've made no excuses for the team this year. I think you need to focus your attention elsewhere. Like any fan i'm not in support of what is going on with the team and have stated so. I didn't say anything about the team turning a corner or figuring things out. If they play well I say so. If after a win, I identify what they need to do to win, that doesn't mean i'm out of touch with reality.

The only thing I've said is that this team has the ability to play better and that I don't believe Isiah is getting the best out of this team. Flawed roster or not, you have to be able to coach the team better. When the team executes they can compete. In tonight's game yet again Isiah let things go bad for too long before he took action. He just sits there. Isiah called time when we went down 28-22 and then didn't call another time out until we went down 58-36. He's not responsive enough to what is going on on the floor. Guys like Balkman no longer provide the energy we need and overall he doesn't have a handle on how to use the roster.

Nate came out of camp playing well, but Isiah hasn't really used him. Q has stunk all year and yet he's playing him. We keep getting killed at that position every night and nothing changes. A young talent like Chandler sits on the bench and wastes. This isn't to say he's the answer, but can we see what he has to offer for an extended period of time other than spot duty in losses?

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Bippity10:

I can't wait for Nixluva to tell us that our team isn't perfect but that fights like this are showing us that they are starting to figure things out.

You haven't read any posts by me making any such statements. I've made no excuses for the team this year. I think you need to focus your attention elsewhere. Like any fan i'm not in support of what is going on with the team and have stated so. I didn't say anything about the team turning a corner or figuring things out. If they play well I say so. If after a win, I identify what they need to do to win, that doesn't mean i'm out of touch with reality.

The only thing I've said is that this team has the ability to play better and that I don't believe Isiah is getting the best out of this team. Flawed roster or not, you have to be able to coach the team better. When the team executes they can compete. In tonight's game yet again Isiah let things go bad for too long before he took action. He just sits there. Isiah called time when we went down 28-22 and then didn't call another time out until we went down 58-36. He's not responsive enough to what is going on on the floor. Guys like Balkman no longer provide the energy we need and overall he doesn't have a handle on how to use the roster.

Nate came out of camp playing well, but Isiah hasn't really used him. Q has stunk all year and yet he's playing him. We keep getting killed at that position every night and nothing changes. A young talent like Chandler sits on the bench and wastes. This isn't to say he's the answer, but can we see what he has to offer for an extended period of time other than spot duty in losses?

Posted by nixluva:


Don't you think I deserve to be a bit testy after another Knick loss and then to read someone teasing me as if it's somehow not bad enough just to see the team playing this poorly? Heck we all knew this was a possibility. Lots of things were possible, but in this teams case once again everything that could go wrong has gone wrong.

Look my contention is that MOST of the teams in the NBA are flawed. The big difference here is that Isiah who is leading this group has failed to give this team any solid direction. He's failed to motivate and he's clearly losing the team if not already lost the team. Yet he still refuses to give younger hungrier players a chance to show what they can do or at the least learn for the future. Why should Q and Malik get to stay on the floor meanwhile you sit Curry and Zach as if they're the only ones stinking it up? How about letting the young guys play and learn, which at this point couldn't be much worse than the double digit blowouts. I can't for the life of me figure out why he's so loyal to certain guys when they don't produce. He's killed the energy unit off the bench with his rotations. He waits until we're too far behind to find a unit that can defend. Why not shake up the starting lineup so that we don't start off so bad all the time?