[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Say the Knicks lose and actually win the #1 pick in the draft......
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
EnySpree
Posts: 44927
Alba Posts: 138
Joined: 4/18/2003
Member: #397
12/21/2007  6:59 PM
There are no real sure things.....

Micheal Beasley? How good is that kid? is he a power fwd? is he a small fwd? I never saw him play hard yet.....its not like he is dominating games...he gets his stats but it just looks too easy. How does that translate? Does he replace Zach? or Q?

Derrick Rose? Kid is nice....not a world beater yet though. He could be if he stays another year....truthfully anybody you can name to go #1 would probably benifit from more years in college.

Would getting just the top pick actually be a victory? Can Beasley step in and take the ass rape of the ny media everyday?
Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast https://twitter.com/DiehardknicksPC https://instagram.com/diehardknickspodcast
AUTOADVERT
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
12/21/2007  11:09 PM
assuming that a Rose or Beasley are coming here with a new GM & Coach in place - and that Dolan apologizes & takes responsibility- I think expectations will be low, especially as the new GM jettisons garbage.

Top pick this year, top pick again next year- hope one of those 2 is an all star, championship caliber talent and that the few good pieces we have can remain and develop into a supporting cast worthy of our support.
GKFv2
Posts: 26755
Alba Posts: 114
Joined: 1/16/2007
Member: #1259
USA
12/21/2007  11:13 PM
The media wont ass rape a rookie. Regardless of where we pick, a rookie is a rookie. hey gave Eli time and only started dissing him now that he's blowing loads of ass. Media isn't the problem. If the player is for real, he will continue to improve every year.

Beasley is a SF and he does look like the real deal but I'd prefer Rose because this dude is a playmaker who could also take over games. One day he'll score 30 and the next day he'll get 12 assists. He adjusts to anything and he has a good head on his shoulders. These types of players don't come around often.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34121
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127
12/22/2007  12:22 AM
Get rid of everyone that are "above" David Lee and Jamal Crawford, combine them with a top pick, and I like the Knicks direction. Beasley, Rose, Gordon, and Mayo all look intriguing. If Crawford can run the point: Mayo, Gordon, and Beasley all look appealing. If Crawford cannot play the point, then Rose looks appealing.

Acquiring another first round pick to get Darren Collison would be ideal IMO, and using our pick to grab the best available big man, between other potential names like Donte Green (for three point shooting) or Blake Griffin (toughness and leadership).
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
Anji
Posts: 25523
Alba Posts: 9
Joined: 4/14/2006
Member: #1122
USA
12/22/2007  4:41 AM
Beasley is really small. I wouldn't pick him right now for the knicks. He has to learn to play like a smallforward and work on his handle or grow 2 inches. If he played with a Power Forward like Odom or Marion is the only I would pick him if I was any GM right now.


Mayo is probably the best kid in college, but he is a scorer. He is a Gilbert Arenas with more natural talent. He likes to actually shoot more then drive all the way to the bucket....... which is why I don't agree with the Marbury or Dwade comparisons. Mayo works of the ball and screens in the games I've seen him play.

[Edited by - anji on 12-22-2007 04:43 AM]
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 2/2/2004
Member: #581
USA
12/22/2007  7:27 AM
Posted by GKFv2:

The media wont ass rape a rookie. Regardless of where we pick, a rookie is a rookie. hey gave Eli time and only started dissing him now that he's blowing loads of ass. Media isn't the problem. If the player is for real, he will continue to improve every year.

Beasley is a SF and he does look like the real deal but I'd prefer Rose because this dude is a playmaker who could also take over games. One day he'll score 30 and the next day he'll get 12 assists. He adjusts to anything and he has a good head on his shoulders. These types of players don't come around often.

Maybe I'm just an old geek who needs to lighten up, but are "ass rape" references necessary? I saw someone else do that in another thread a couple of days ago.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-22-2007 07:27 AM]
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34121
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127
12/22/2007  1:27 PM
Posted by Anji:

Beasley is really small. I wouldn't pick him right now for the knicks. He has to learn to play like a smallforward and work on his handle or grow 2 inches. If he played with a Power Forward like Odom or Marion is the only I would pick him if I was any GM right now.


Mayo is probably the best kid in college, but he is a scorer. He is a Gilbert Arenas with more natural talent. He likes to actually shoot more then drive all the way to the bucket....... which is why I don't agree with the Marbury or Dwade comparisons. Mayo works of the ball and screens in the games I've seen him play.

[Edited by - anji on 12-22-2007 04:43 AM]

He was a "PG" in high school, but point guards don't typically run an advanced offense at that level. You're right though, he has a very polished SG repertoire for being a freshman in college. To me, his ceiling seems the highest of any prospect in this draft because of the rare combination of talent and polish.
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
GKFv2
Posts: 26755
Alba Posts: 114
Joined: 1/16/2007
Member: #1259
USA
12/22/2007  3:16 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by GKFv2:

The media wont ass rape a rookie. Regardless of where we pick, a rookie is a rookie. hey gave Eli time and only started dissing him now that he's blowing loads of ass. Media isn't the problem. If the player is for real, he will continue to improve every year.

Beasley is a SF and he does look like the real deal but I'd prefer Rose because this dude is a playmaker who could also take over games. One day he'll score 30 and the next day he'll get 12 assists. He adjusts to anything and he has a good head on his shoulders. These types of players don't come around often.



Maybe I'm just an old geek who needs to lighten up, but are "ass rape" references necessary? I saw someone else do that in another thread a couple of days ago.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-22-2007 07:27 AM]

Yes it is.

Thank you, Rick Brunson.
Solace
Posts: 30004
Alba Posts: 20
Joined: 10/30/2003
Member: #479
USA
12/22/2007  3:24 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Maybe I'm just an old geek who needs to lighten up, but are "ass rape" references necessary? I saw someone else do that in another thread a couple of days ago.

You can draw your own conclusions why certain posters may have that at the forefront of their minds.
The Knicks 2026 NBA Champions!
fishmike
Posts: 53904
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
12/22/2007  3:53 PM
we dont have a single player you would consider building around. Shoot for the highest ceiling talent. Thats Rose or Beas
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
4949
Posts: 29378
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/25/2006
Member: #1126
USA
12/22/2007  4:38 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

There are no real sure things.....

Micheal Beasley? How good is that kid? is he a power fwd? is he a small fwd? I never saw him play hard yet.....its not like he is dominating games...he gets his stats but it just looks too easy. How does that translate? Does he replace Zach? or Q?

Derrick Rose? Kid is nice....not a world beater yet though. He could be if he stays another year....truthfully anybody you can name to go #1 would probably benifit from more years in college.

Would getting just the top pick actually be a victory? Can Beasley step in and take the ass rape of the ny media everyday?

You know what's really funny about this? Again we are totally out of luck! The last two years, chicago got to take our top picks away and now that we might have a chance to get the #1, there's no one that sticks out in college. What a ****'n bummer! Only we' could do that.
I'll never trust this' team again.
4949
Posts: 29378
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/25/2006
Member: #1126
USA
12/22/2007  4:39 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

The media wont ass rape a rookie.

I just love your way with words.
I'll never trust this' team again.
joel
Posts: 20068
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 12/1/2007
Member: #1760
12/22/2007  5:38 PM
Derrick Rose is meant to be a Knick. I feel it...
FireIsiah.com Fire This Picklehead.
Vmart
Posts: 31801
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 5/23/2002
Member: #247
USA
12/22/2007  11:19 PM
Beasley is a beast, I like Rose if the Knicks get him they will be well off but Beasley is off the charts his game is Durrant like. This guy can play pf, sf and sg he is highly skilled player. If the Knicks get the number one hands down no brainer its Beasley.
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
12/23/2007  9:07 AM
I've seen Rose some now. He's quite good, but he ain't no Jason Kidd but a better athlete like some say. Kidd was a fantastic college player.

Kidd pretty much took out Duke singlehandedly as a freshman, and duke was in the middle of a dynasty. There was this dude named "Duck" who played well, and I think Tony Gonzalez was on that team, but it was really all Kidd. It was nuts, I'll never forget it. Kidd reeked of greatness as a freshman and he could have made the jump straight to the pros and been a top PG right away.

All that to say, I haven't seen a tank-worthy player in this draft yet. (That is if you believe in tanking, which I don't) But I haven't watched much college ball this year. Maybe the tank-worthy player is European? Chinese/African or something.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
12/23/2007  10:17 AM
Posted by oohah:

I've seen Rose some now. He's quite good, but he ain't no Jason Kidd but a better athlete like some say. Kidd was a fantastic college player.

Kidd pretty much took out Duke singlehandedly as a freshman, and duke was in the middle of a dynasty. There was this dude named "Duck" who played well, and I think Tony Gonzalez was on that team, but it was really all Kidd. It was nuts, I'll never forget it. Kidd reeked of greatness as a freshman and he could have made the jump straight to the pros and been a top PG right away.

All that to say, I haven't seen a tank-worthy player in this draft yet. (That is if you believe in tanking, which I don't) But I haven't watched much college ball this year. Maybe the tank-worthy player is European? Chinese/African or something.

oohah

Funny- if you haven't seen a tank worthy prospect- then the knicks must have- between Dolan, Isiah and the knick squad- because they are sure tanking it.
Siar617
Posts: 21459
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/15/2007
Member: #1742
USA
12/23/2007  11:00 AM
the knicks dont have to tank to get the mun one
just keep playing the way the play
no defense one on one ballhogging
zbo style
jesus617 walks
« Reply To Topic
Say the Knicks lose and actually win the #1 pick in the draft......
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy