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King1
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12/20/2007  9:38 AM
up and played Lee over 30 minutes he responds pretty well. He is averaging 16.4 points a game and 11 rebounds a game while shooting around 60% from the field. What else does he need to do to get consistent minutes? Great role players are usually older players in the league or really good shooters. David is in his third year and proved last year if you give him minutes he will produce. Offensively he is a much better player than he was last year and his defense still sucks. He is much more efficient than both Randolph and Curry and someone tell me why you wouldnt find him 30 minutes a game? If we were a winning team with zach and curry playing all the time I would understand but we suck. Bitty here is your morning chance to blow me up.
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12/20/2007  9:51 AM
Posted by King1:

up and played Lee over 30 minutes he responds pretty well. He is averaging 16.4 points a game and 11 rebounds a game while shooting around 60% from the field. What else does he need to do to get consistent minutes? Great role players are usually older players in the league or really good shooters. David is in his third year and proved last year if you give him minutes he will produce. Offensively he is a much better player than he was last year and his defense still sucks. He is much more efficient than both Randolph and Curry and someone tell me why you wouldnt find him 30 minutes a game? If we were a winning team with zach and curry playing all the time I would understand but we suck. Bitty here is your morning chance to blow me up.
The team would still suck but I bet we'd be like 11-14 or 10-15 if Lee were starting instead of Curry. And at least there'd be one player I respect and enjoy watching in the starting lineup!
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12/20/2007  10:05 AM
Balkman is another guy who really fills the stat sheet when given minutes. Money talks and guys with rookie deals sit. This is our team
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12/20/2007  10:07 AM
Lee represents everything Isiah hates about basketball.
David is not flashy, not selfish, not show-off, and represent NY way of playing bbal.
So why Isiah want to play him? I am surprised that David is still around with this team.
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12/20/2007  10:07 AM
Posted by fishmike:

Balkman is another guy who really fills the stat sheet when given minutes. Money talks and guys with rookie deals sit. This is our team


yea... lee and balkmans problem is that they are still on rookie deals and not bloated MLE deals like jeffries and james..
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12/20/2007  10:11 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by fishmike:

Balkman is another guy who really fills the stat sheet when given minutes. Money talks and guys with rookie deals sit. This is our team


yea... lee and balkmans problem is that they are still on rookie deals and not bloated MLE deals like jeffries and james..

I would add Nate to that list. If he is given consistent burn, he can be OK.

Isiah has been HORRIBLE with his bench work.
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12/20/2007  11:18 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by fishmike:

Balkman is another guy who really fills the stat sheet when given minutes. Money talks and guys with rookie deals sit. This is our team


yea... lee and balkmans problem is that they are still on rookie deals and not bloated MLE deals like jeffries and james..

I would add Nate to that list. If he is given consistent burn, he can be OK.

Isiah has been HORRIBLE with his bench work.

he has.. Isiah we must admit, is his own worst enemy..
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12/20/2007  12:04 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by martin:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by fishmike:

Balkman is another guy who really fills the stat sheet when given minutes. Money talks and guys with rookie deals sit. This is our team


yea... lee and balkmans problem is that they are still on rookie deals and not bloated MLE deals like jeffries and james..

I would add Nate to that list. If he is given consistent burn, he can be OK.

Isiah has been HORRIBLE with his bench work.

he has.. Isiah we must admit, is his own worst enemy..

its the problem with Isiah the Coach Vs. Isiah the GM.

If he was just coach, I wonder if we wouldn't see a different starting line up or rotation.

But Isiah the GM can't allow Isiah the Coach to start Lee and sit Zach or Curry.
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12/20/2007  12:28 PM
If lee was playing 35 mpg I'd actually watch this team... I stopped after the philly losses... wish I knew he was gunna play that much last night I would have tuned in
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12/20/2007  12:31 PM
Posted by arkrud:

Lee represents everything Isiah hates about basketball.
David is not flashy, not selfish, not show-off, and represent NY way of playing bbal.
So why Isiah want to play him? I am surprised that David is still around with this team.

Yeah, I even wonder why Isiah drafted him...He was probably going after that Lee David guy and said the name backwards on the podium...



[Edited by - holfresh on 12-20-2007 12:32 PM]
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12/20/2007  12:35 PM
Curry, when focused and aggressive, is dominant.

Lee has been slowly coming back into form and last night he put in a full game effort.

You can't leave a possible dominant curry on the bench and lee can come in for any of our bigs.

We'd still suck, but lee is much more enjoyable to watch.

so I support your suggestion, but reject your theory that it's about money, considering the lineups that are coming.

It's interesting that zeke is suddenly doing what he should have always been doing after they picket and boo and call for his head (same thing last year).

Maybe he is a slow coacher.
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arkrud
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12/20/2007  12:38 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by arkrud:

Lee represents everything Isiah hates about basketball.
David is not flashy, not selfish, not show-off, and represent NY way of playing bbal.
So why Isiah want to play him? I am surprised that David is still around with this team.

Yeah, I even wonder why Isiah drafted him...He was probably going after that Lee David guy and said the name backwards on the podium...



[Edited by - holfresh on 12-20-2007 12:32 PM]

Lee is Isiah best draft hit... The only one good one with NY.
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12/20/2007  2:41 PM
David Lee is white. Thats why he doesnt get consistent playing time with Isiah. White players are always overated by the white media and the white season ticket holders. The white player also has less of a right to call a woman a bitch. Anyone who wants to say Im wrong, prove it.
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12/21/2007  2:35 PM
morris randolph is a better all around player than any of our bigs
when his deal expires at seasons end we will see that as
he will get burn with a better team
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12/21/2007  3:12 PM
Posted by toodarkmark:

David Lee is white. Thats why he doesnt get consistent playing time with Isiah. White players are always overated by the white media and the white season ticket holders. The white player also has less of a right to call a woman a bitch. Anyone who wants to say Im wrong, prove it.

I guess that explains Balkman too.
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12/21/2007  3:20 PM
This is the problem people are dumb enough to believe in Curry's potential. Lee has a brain most of the Knicks don't. Thats why we are terrible your starting unit might have 2 collective brains between them which is scary......

Lee would be putting up nearly identical nubmers, without the turnovers that zach is doing right now and isiah suprised made another move to take away from the players he acquired. What I really would like to see out there is Balkman and Lee at the same time I don't care if we don't have shooters on the floor we need those guys changing the tempo......
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12/21/2007  4:24 PM
Posted by King1:

up and played Lee over 30 minutes he responds pretty well. He is averaging 16.4 points a game and 11 rebounds a game while shooting around 60% from the field. What else does he need to do to get consistent minutes? Great role players are usually older players in the league or really good shooters. David is in his third year and proved last year if you give him minutes he will produce. Offensively he is a much better player than he was last year and his defense still sucks. He is much more efficient than both Randolph and Curry and someone tell me why you wouldnt find him 30 minutes a game? If we were a winning team with zach and curry playing all the time I would understand but we suck. Bitty here is your morning chance to blow me up.


King ohmygod! I actually agree with you, Isiah neeeds to stop forcing the issue with Curry and put his big ass where it belongs on the bench. Give Lee the minutes granted its not conventional with him and Zach on the floor together but its better then watch Curry committ a dozen offensive fouls.

On another note this is just not a very basketball savy comment:
Lee would be putting up nearly identical nubmers, without the turnovers that zach is doing right now
Even if you think Zach is a ball hog in this league at Lee' size you need a plethora of low post moves and a serviceable J. And Lee is lacking both of these attributes. Spin anyway you want it MS but Lee isn't putting up no 19 and 10 on a regular basis on put backs and fast breaks unless he's playing with Jason Kidd or Steve Nash. And thats assuming that Lee is the 3rd or 4th option which he wouldn't be on their current teams.
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12/21/2007  4:52 PM
No Isiah's big mess was starting Q when he is shooting 28%.
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