Fifty Four Players: Extending one who existed (Kurt), extending or re-acuiring two he had originally acquired (Baker, Brewer)


It's absolutely AMAZING what Isiah Thomas has done.


PLAYERS ACQUIRED


Moochie Norris
John Amechie
Stephon Marbury
Penny Hardaway
Cezary Trybanski
Bruno Sundov
DeMarr Johnson
Tim Thomas
Nazr Mohammed
Rodney Buford
Vin Baker
Kurt Thomas (Extended)
Trevor Ariza
Vin Baker (Re-Signed)
Jamison Brewer
Bruno Sundov (Re-Signed)
Andre Barrett
Brent Wright
Mengke Bateer
Tracy Murray
Malik Rose
Mo Taylor
Jackie Butler
Jermaine Jackson
Channing Frye
David Lee
Nate Robinson
Quentin Richardson
Jerome James
Otis George
Steven Barber
Eddy Curry
Antonio Davis
Matt Barnes
Jamison Brewer (Re-Signed)
Qyntel Woods
Jalen Rose
Steve Francis
Ime Udoka
Mardy Collins
Renaldo Balkman
Jared Jeffries
Elton Brown
Milone Clark
Nikoloz Tskitishvili
Paul Miller
Kelvin Cato
Randolph Morris
Wilson Chandler
Zach Randolph
Dan Dickau
Fred Jones
Demetris Nichols
Jared Jordan
Roderick Wilmont
Walker Russell Jr.
Allan Houston


COACHES/TRAINERS/SCOUTS/ETC - THIRTEEN


Lenny Wilkens
Dick Helm
Mark Agguire
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Dell Demps
Brendan Suhr
Roger Hinds
Larry Brown
Dave Hanners
Phil Ford
Brendan O'Connor
Kelly Tripucka
Glen Grunwald


.....


FIFTY FOUR new PLAYERS in FOUR YEARS

THIRTEEN new COACHES/SCOUTS/ETC in FOUR YEARS


Of course, it does not include who he first inherited both coaches and players.

He has personally gone through FIFTY FOUR PLAYERS and THIRTEEN COACHES/SCOUTS! (Fifty Seven Players if you count the re-acquistions or re-signs or extending of Kurt)


And..........amazingly.......there's people that want to give this more time and let Isiah continue to make changes.




Now, another point I want to make:



Trades for Marbury ---- Marbury is the focal point of the offense.
Trades for Crawful ---- Crawful is the focal point, Marbury secondary.
Trades for FatCurry --- FatCurry is the focal point, Craw 2nd (even though he took the most shots), Marbury third.
Trades for Zach --- Zach is the focal point, Crawful second, Curry falls off a cliff, Marbury AWOL.


Good goin' Isiah. Can't stick with a player or a plan. It's yet another reason why we're the disaster we are. Isiah and the eternal optimist would use this as an excuse but it's not an excuse it's a fact of why we stink.




Now, I've made this point before and I stand by it:

When he acquired Marbury we went to the playoffs because it was Marbury doing whatever he wanted and he was supported by role players who willingly just waited to get there's but worked hard the whole game. We should have stuck with that model.

It reminded me of the Iverson-led Sixers that went to the finals. It was Iverson doing everything he wanted supported by willing role players.





.....now, for any leftover Isiah supporters or those that believe just a little more time and Curry with morph into Shaq and Crawful into Jordan and Jeffries into Pippen, etc etc etc... if this can't wake you up, if 6-15 can't wake you up, if nearly 200 losses in 4 years can't wake you up - what in the hell WILL!?



FIRE ISIAH

the official "ISIAH list"

2/24/05 is the day i realized isiah had no plan...

There's no justification for letting Marbury have the keys to the car while the supporting cast washes it. Of course if you're comparing what if we did vs where we're at today I guess we'd probably see a 3-4gm win season total difference but that's pathetic when Marbury was the signature big splash move. He should have let Layden's team bottom out.

Posted by TrueBlue:

There's no justification for letting Marbury have the keys to the car while the supporting cast washes it. Of course if you're comparing what if we did vs where we're at today I guess we'd probably see a 3-4gm win season total difference but that's pathetic when Marbury was the signature big splash move. He should have let Layden's team bottom out.

Except that...the trade was made...and was hailed as the move to make us a top 3 team in the East (SportsCenter) and a playoff contender (just about everyone in the wake of the trade).

So, well, nothing you can do about it but had he stopped there you would have seen the 04/05 season lead to the playoffs with the same roster. Layden's roster + Marbury. Maybe the book is written different if that happened.

It's just a point though it is not a justification of Isiah's moves in the least. Just look at the point for what it is: Isiah never stuck with anything long enough for anyone to get a clue as to what their place was on the team. Every year he had a new flavor and discarded the old one who then moped around as a result.

Now he's mired us with total garbage that has no intentions of improving and no chance of ever fitting together. He must be fired and his trash must be torn down.

We just need to buyout about 50M in contracts, and make 4 or 5 more bad trades to replace them, and I think we could be mediocre.

12/22/03 is the day I realized the Knicks were ****ed.

He might have made 54 moves but he still has more to go. The whole roster needs to be rebuilt and I think it can be done but on this team, the individual parts are greater than the whole. We can ship off Curry, Crawford, and and few others and get back some solid prospects and draft picks. Together these players suck but if you broke them a part and placed them on teams that compliment their talents, they would be far more useful than they are in NY. The only way IT can succeed is if he is willing to rid himself of his past failures.

David Lee is actually the only one of those fifty four players who I'd look at and say, "I'd really like to have this guy on my team." That's less than 2%!