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Allanfan20
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12/10/2007  9:12 AM
I refuse to accept that the product being placed on the Garden floor for 41 games is the Knicks. The people within' this product, including Isiah and his assistants, don't deserve to be placed under the same named as other players in the past, who wore the jersey with pride, even during losing times. Therefore, I will no longer be calling that group, the Knicks, until the proper change is made and results shown.

I refuse to call them a team.

I refuse to aknowledge that they are playing basketball. Hence, they are not a basketball team.

I refuse to call them basketball players.

I refuse to realize this is even a business. A true business aknowledges the complaints of the customers and does something to make it better. This organization has not done that.

You can't call me a hater for this, if I truely don't believe that these aren't the Knicks and they aren't playing basketball.

Anyone who wants to join me, please do so. The more people who stand by my side, the merrier. I may just boycott watching product games on tv too, but that may be too much. We'll see how much more I can take.

As of now though, this is my stance, and if you think I'm joking, I'm not. When I see Ultimateknicks, I'll be thinking of the past, purely because there surely is nothing ultimate about the product in the present, being placed before us.

K, hope everyone has a lovely day.
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12/10/2007  9:18 AM
The Knicks are a corporate entity not a pro sports team. As long as the money flows there's no need to fire incompetent employees.

I'd also say at this point only the following players have the privilege to wear the Orange and Blue.

They may not be good but they try.

Q-Brick
Malik Rose
Nate Robinson
David Lee
Renaldo Balkman
Mardy Collins
Fred Jones

Again, they're not very good but at least they have some pride and at least try out there. Nobody else on the roster deserves the jersey.
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12/10/2007  9:59 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

I refuse to accept that the product being placed on the Garden floor for 41 games is the Knicks. The people within' this product, including Isiah and his assistants, don't deserve to be placed under the same named as other players in the past, who wore the jersey with pride, even during losing times. Therefore, I will no longer be calling that group, the Knicks, until the proper change is made and results shown.

I refuse to call them a team.

I refuse to aknowledge that they are playing basketball. Hence, they are not a basketball team.

I refuse to call them basketball players.

I refuse to realize this is even a business. A true business aknowledges the complaints of the customers and does something to make it better. This organization has not done that.

You can't call me a hater for this, if I truely don't believe that these aren't the Knicks and they aren't playing basketball.

Anyone who wants to join me, please do so. The more people who stand by my side, the merrier. I may just boycott watching product games on tv too, but that may be too much. We'll see how much more I can take.

As of now though, this is my stance, and if you think I'm joking, I'm not. When I see Ultimateknicks, I'll be thinking of the past, purely because there surely is nothing ultimate about the product in the present, being placed before us.

K, hope everyone has a lovely day.

It's like on Star Trek when an alien takes the form of a crewman. That's not the real crewman, so it is okay to shoot him with a phaser.

The Knicks are like that.

These aren't the Knicks. They are aliens from another planet pretending to be the Knicks.


[Edited by - basketballjones on 12-10-2007 09:59]
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12/10/2007  12:22 PM
Isiah is from Chicago, All players growing up in chi-town dislike NY BALL PLAYERS.


And we thought LB was sabotoging the NY Franchise---- LB was from NY !
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/10/2007  12:31 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

The Knicks are a corporate entity not a pro sports team.

And that's really the breadth of this whole thing, isn't it?

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12/10/2007  1:28 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Allanfan20:

I refuse to accept that the product being placed on the Garden floor for 41 games is the Knicks. The people within' this product, including Isiah and his assistants, don't deserve to be placed under the same named as other players in the past, who wore the jersey with pride, even during losing times. Therefore, I will no longer be calling that group, the Knicks, until the proper change is made and results shown.

I refuse to call them a team.

I refuse to aknowledge that they are playing basketball. Hence, they are not a basketball team.

I refuse to call them basketball players.

I refuse to realize this is even a business. A true business aknowledges the complaints of the customers and does something to make it better. This organization has not done that.

You can't call me a hater for this, if I truely don't believe that these aren't the Knicks and they aren't playing basketball.

Anyone who wants to join me, please do so. The more people who stand by my side, the merrier. I may just boycott watching product games on tv too, but that may be too much. We'll see how much more I can take.

As of now though, this is my stance, and if you think I'm joking, I'm not. When I see Ultimateknicks, I'll be thinking of the past, purely because there surely is nothing ultimate about the product in the present, being placed before us.

K, hope everyone has a lovely day.

It's like on Star Trek when an alien takes the form of a crewman. That's not the real crewman, so it is okay to shoot him with a phaser.

The Knicks are like that.

These aren't the Knicks. They are aliens from another planet pretending to be the Knicks.


[Edited by - basketballjones on 12-10-2007 09:59]

What if one of the aliens morphed into LB? Would it then be NOT ok to tazer him cuz its not really LB?
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12/10/2007  1:43 PM
I am in Allanfan.
But I will continue to watch the games of The Product to make a fun of it.
This Product is so funny in fact that the games can be moved to Comedy Channel right after South Park.
More of, in the absence of Knicks in NY, we can nominate one team to be Knicks vision.
I am nominating Boston and we can follow them up as Knicks. However I am open to go with Spurs, Suns, Dallas, or even Utah.
We can vote this matter or we can have monthly selections.

All serious - Arkrud


[Edited by - arkrud on 12-10-2007 1:44 PM]

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12/10/2007  4:08 PM
Agree 100 percent. This group might as be called the Dolan Isiah's and replace the New York on the uniform with a picture of IT's stupid grin. Then take out the Knicks logo from the center of the court and put in a middle finger dedicated to all the fans of the franchise.

It's amazing. Im a Dolphins fan as well as a Knicks fan and I am actualy proud of that team compared to this one.
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12/10/2007  4:12 PM
Posted by NYKPHINS:


It's amazing. Im a Dolphins fan as well as a Knicks fan and I am actualy proud of that team compared to this one.

Wow, that sums up everything.
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NYKPHINS
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12/10/2007  4:27 PM
Wow, that sums up everything.


Its true. At least the Phins will have the number one pick and A LOT of Cap money for free agents during the off-season. They also have an owner that at least cares about the teams performance and the fans. They also have Jason Taylor and Zazh Thomas who still give the fans respectable hard working players to cheer for. Point is there is still hope there.

What's amazing is that they might be the worst team in NFL history, and they are not even close to as embarassing as the Knicks are. At least they are only a joke on the field, unlike the Knicks who are one in every way a business entity (their not a team and even calling this a business of any type seems wrong)can be.

I don't want to make it seem like im happy with where the Dolphins are because this season has been killing me, but I still have hope for their future. Until Isiah is fired there is zero future here and Dolan apparently has no interest in actualy improving the team. He only wants to prove he was right.
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Panos
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12/10/2007  4:52 PM
Posted by NYKPHINS:

Wow, that sums up everything.


Its true. At least the Phins will have the number one pick and A LOT of Cap money for free agents during the off-season. They also have an owner that at least cares about the teams performance and the fans. They also have Jason Taylor and Zazh Thomas who still give the fans respectable hard working players to cheer for. Point is there is still hope there.

So what? We had Mo Taylor, and have Zach Randolph and Isiah Thomas.
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12/10/2007  6:17 PM
Well you have got me there. Can't forget about those pillars of Knick history.

I wonder if one day their will be a commercial for some future weight loss product that is made up completley of past and current Knicks? It could be like Nurtisystem except trade out Marino, Golic, and all the other ESPN guys for Jerome, Curry, Zach, Mo...of course that would require them to actualy get in shape. Don't think science will ever advance that far.
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12/10/2007  10:06 PM
If the Knicks were really a corporate entity by itself, run by a board of directors, not by an owners son, there is no chance in hell things would go the same way for years.

[Edited by - simrud on 12-10-2007 10:06 PM]
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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