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BRIGGS
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6/12/2003  4:29 PM
Ricky Davis for pick 9 and Travis Knight

Pick 30 and Othella Harrington to the LA Lakers for pick 24
Pick 24 select Malick Badiane C 6-11 238

Latrell Sprewell and pick 39 to Minnesota for Terrell Brandon and pick 26 Knicks select PF David West PF 6-9 1/2 240

Knicks sign PG Antonio Daniels to a 3 year 10MM$ contract and release Ward


C-Badiane 6-11 240
PF Thomas 6-9 240
SF Davis 6-7 195
SG Houston 6-6 210
PG Daniels 6-4 210
C- Doleac 6-11 265
PF West 6-9 1/2 240
SF Andersen 6-6 200
PG Eisley 6-2 180

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6/12/2003  6:26 PM
I would do it, but it wont happen
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6/12/2003  6:37 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Ricky Davis for pick 9 and Travis Knight

Yeah, right.
tkf
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6/12/2003  9:20 PM
Ricky Davis is good but I don't want him. Takes too many shots, does not get his teamates involved, and before someone post his assists numbers, I watched a lot of cavs games also, this guy takes a ton of bad shots! He passes as a last option..
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6/12/2003  10:18 PM
Briggs Terrell hasnt played a full season in three years, I dont even think he played at all the last two!! His feet are shot and last season he was contemplating calling it quits. The 39th pick alone is worth more than him. If that still isnt enough for you, we already have three point guards playing and a fourth over in europe, why bring in a fifth!?

I dont think the Cavs are so stupid that they would trade their "Pippen" for a pick as low as 9 and Travis Knight.

Dont get me wrong i want changes on this team also, but lets not get crazy.
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6/12/2003  10:22 PM
Also, Badiane is not ready to start as an NBA center. Hell, Kaman isn't ready to start as an NBA center.

Unless the Knicks get a starting center through trades, KT will be starting center again. Maybe Doleac. Not a draftee.
BRIGGS
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6/12/2003  10:59 PM
All right -let me tweek

Ny trades picks 9 and a restriced future #1+ Knight to Cleveland for Ricky Davis [we select the player and trade the player they want later so i can trade my 2004 if necessary]

Ny trades the rights to vujonic Charlie Ward sign and trade Lee Nailon to a 1 year 3.5mm$ contract to Golden State for C Adonal Foyle and Danny Fortson--they dump ward on his buyout for the flexibility to sign arenas and we take back Fortson.

Ny trades Sprewell to Minnesota for Branden. Im just getting rid of Sprewell and Minnesota is a lot better with Sprewell then a contract that has only value as an ending contract for 12 mm in 2 years. The benefit to the knicks is insurance pays out 80% and he comes off the cap this year. Having sprewell for nothing will make Minnesota significantly better

And lastly Ny trades Othella Harrington and pick 30 to LA for pick 24 and fodder NY selects Troy Bell PG--again getting rid of harrington to make room. Good deal for the Lakers they add Harrington who is a high quality depth upgradeand they only lose 6 spots.

Pick # 39 Jason Kopono 6-8 225 SG/SF
That would make us
C-Foyle 6-11 260
PF Thomas 6-9 235
SF Davis 6-7 195
SG Houston 6-6 200
PG Eisley 6-2 180
C-Doleac 6-11 265
PF Fortson 6-8 265
SF Andersen 6-6 200
PG Bell 6-1 190

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6/13/2003  9:42 AM
ROFL............ You can't be serious !!!
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6/13/2003  12:27 PM
how about ricky davis for a can of tuna and a mad magazine
briggs 9 picks can be good, what 3 out of the last 10 9 picks have become all stars...not a bad or good ratio. to base trading a proven commododity on draft's past and not observing the current weak draft is foolish.

what hasn't dawned on you is most of those 9 and 10 picks should of been drafted much hihger if half the gm's took there head out of there a. No way should pierce dropped so low, same for caron butler, no way should mike dunleavy got drafted number three when he was the third best player on his team let alone the country.

To add Travis knights name to a inquiry like this makes this a absolute joke. What would anyone in there right mind do with Travis knight on there team. i could see Cleveland now like, no Deal unless we get Travis knight.

Another thing, what makes you think there isnt 50 much better deals for Ricky davis coming off last year,and cleveleand has no pressure to win, why not keep him if the only deal is for travis knight and a 9th pick in a weak draft.

Martin, you watch my post like you are Seargant mcnolte from the Wire, and this type of foolish propositions are permitted. what a joke
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6/13/2003  12:43 PM
ARES is in the house!! Tell how you really feel?
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6/13/2003  1:41 PM
ARES 1-10 right, ain't bad keep it up.
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6/13/2003  1:43 PM
Posted by ARES:

how about ricky davis for a can of tuna and a mad magazine
briggs 9 picks can be good, what 3 out of the last 10 9 picks have become all stars...not a bad or good ratio. to base trading a proven commododity on draft's past and not observing the current weak draft is foolish.

what hasn't dawned on you is most of those 9 and 10 picks should of been drafted much hihger if half the gm's took there head out of there a. No way should pierce dropped so low, same for caron butler, no way should mike dunleavy got drafted number three when he was the third best player on his team let alone the country.

To add Travis knights name to a inquiry like this makes this a absolute joke. What would anyone in there right mind do with Travis knight on there team. i could see Cleveland now like, no Deal unless we get Travis knight.

Another thing, what makes you think there isnt 50 much better deals for Ricky davis coming off last year,and cleveleand has no pressure to win, why not keep him if the only deal is for travis knight and a 9th pick in a weak draft.

Martin, you watch my post like you are Seargant mcnolte from the Wire, and this type of foolish propositions are permitted. what a joke

Martin, you watch my post like you are Seargant mcnolte from the Wire, and this type of foolish propositions are permitted. what a joke

LMAO, ROFL..... Ares you are a fool, BTW the wire is my favorite show, anyway good points, plus Ricky Davis is redundant on the knicks who still have spree and Houston. I guarantee you that picks 9-15 will be as successful as picks 1-8 because as you said, a lot of GM's are just down right foolish.... to let Caron Butler, and Amare stoudamire slip that low last year was a Joke, and the whole country Knew who Caron Butler was!!!

Getting Ricky davis does nothing for us we need some talent in our front court...
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6/13/2003  2:33 PM
never seen anything like the suspect have you briggs
all those years as a fan and now i'm the anti-knick. life is crazy aint it.
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6/13/2003  3:17 PM
playa i'm not sure the meaning of your post
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6/13/2003  3:22 PM
i cant believe the man actually fixed his keyboard to say the words "Travis knight" in a serious trade proposal like travis knight could possibly help another team in any fashion.

this is the type of stuff we get from people that love to think about trade proposals. Cleveland may be dumb but they aint CRazy!
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6/13/2003  8:36 PM
Travis Knights contract expires after next season....a team that wants to clear cap space would gladly take him on.
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BRIGGS
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6/14/2003  12:07 AM
Travis Knight is a VERY valuable piece because he is an ending contract in the MLE price range--perfect for sign and trade. No we arent going to make multiple trades, the likeliest scenario is that we just draft Kaman with 9 and hopefully West or Bell with 30.

BUT if Cleveland was intent on getting rid of Davis and wanted to stay in the lottery and get an ending contract we have the package. Ricky Davis at 23 years old is better than ANYTHINg we would get at 9. I think Minnesota would be very open to trading sprewell for brandon because they both have 2 years remaining on their contracts and sprewell would be a better fit for the Wolves. What the Knicks get out of it is that insurance picks up 80% of the tab and he actually comes off the cap this year. You would save 20-30 mm$ in pay and lux tax.

the Knicks lack at many things one being athletic ability and team speed.
Ricky davis averaged more assits and more rebounds than any Knick guard 21.5 points 6 assits 5 rebounds 1.5 steals. Your not going to get that type of player in the 9 hole in this draft.

Just throwing ChrisKaman in for 20 minutes a night isnt going tomakemany positions faster more athletic or bigger and we will still struggle mightily with backto back because of age. If I could get Ricky Davis David West and Troy bell out of the draft I would be very happy.
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6/14/2003  12:23 AM
Briggs: how many cavs games did you watch last year? I can say that I have seen about 15 of their games and from what I have seen Ricky Davis manages to pad his stats at the expense of his teamates, he shoots too much, he passes as a last resort, don't let his assist numbers fool you, I made the same mistake with Andre miller, when you are in a lot of blow out games assists and points are easier to come by. Ricky Davis has alienated Darius miles to the point of miles wanting to leave for sure, and you say that we need him?

Where will he play? we still have spree and Houston. And this travis knight thing is ridiculous. He has value maybe as a filler in a huge trade but to get rid of him we have to take on a huge salary, and most likely a scrub like him with a longer contract, Travis has more value to us right now than anyone else.... He will fall off the books and out of the NBA where he does not belong..
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6/14/2003  1:25 AM
Ricky Davis is a young Sprewell. Sometimes guys put up better numbers on poor teams but that doesnt change talent level. Thats like saying Elton Brand stinks because he has been a 20-10 guy for teams worse than the Cavs. You dont average 21.5 points 6 assits 5 rebounds in the NBA if you dont have superior talent. You dont average 6 assists if you are a selfish player like a Lee Nailon. We would be better off getting young athletes who can make this team better in many aspects including much younger. Sprewell is eroding--hes going the way of the Steve Smith's. On Minnesota he would thrive as a third or fourth wheel--he can no longer be a first wheel--so his value to the Knicks is poor. I don't think you understand the salary cap. Trading Travis Knight to Cleveland with the pick not only matches the salary--but it freeze up 5mm from their cap# the following season. they would be getting the 9 pick and valuable cap space. Thats what Travis Knight is worth--all important cap space. This way if they are intent on modeling the team around James as the SF--they have the 9 pick to grab a high caliber PG from the draft and have the cap space the following year--I believe it would be 10mm to get a top tier FA. I wouldnt trade Ricky Davis but Darius Miles has little to no value right now and couldnt command that type of package. So they have a bit of a problem they have 4 prominent wings and no PG
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6/14/2003  1:50 AM
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Ricky Davis for pick 9

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