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playa2
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12/4/2007  10:00 AM
"We have to look at each other in here and say, 'What can I do better, as an individual, to help this team?' I have to become a better player so I'm better for us out there.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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playa2
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12/4/2007  10:09 AM
Probaly not , they came from another team...minnesota
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/4/2007  10:14 AM
Talk is cheap...
I am looking only at what people do and what the result is.
Only RESULT is the difference between WINNERS and LOSERS.
All the rest is crup.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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12/4/2007  2:05 PM
talk is cheap... do, or do not... there is no try.
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playa2
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12/4/2007  3:58 PM
I just feel if our own team made statements like this , it would show some sense of accountability.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/4/2007  4:11 PM
Posted by playa2:

I just feel if our own team made statements like this , it would show some sense of accountability.

they have made statements like this... they haven't shown any accountability however, shuffling blame to injuries, players mourning deaths in the family, the coaching, the offensive system, the list goes on & on... talk is cheap.
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playa2
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12/4/2007  4:45 PM
TMS I have never heard a knick player make those statements.
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12/4/2007  5:08 PM
I heard Jerome James said that once.

Oh wait, he actually said "Give me some god dam'n food." but you can see how the comments are similar
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12/4/2007  5:09 PM
maybe not the exact statements, but very similar... i've heard these players talk about improving as a team, coming together, playing hard, hustling on the floor, being aggressive, blah blah blah blah blah... it never ends... if these guys played as hard as they talked, we'd be a playoff contender by now... truth is these guys are not accountable players & never have been (except for Malik, who i happen to think has at least come close to trying whenever he's on the floor)... i'm sick of the quotes about how much better they're going to be & how they're going to build upon the last win & all the rest... when i start seeing results is when i'll start to believe.
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12/4/2007  5:10 PM
I dont' really listen to what anyone on this team says, besides maybe Jerome James.
I just hope that people will like me
playa2
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12/4/2007  5:30 PM
Naw when you ask "'What can I do better, as an individual, to help this team?' I have to become a better player so I'm better for us out there.

That means more than we need to hustle we need to play smart yada yada yada.

That statement above was made with conviction, knicks players say the isiah thomas carsalesman book of rhetoric
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/4/2007  5:36 PM
Posted by playa2:

Naw when you ask "'What can I do better, as an individual, to help this team?' I have to become a better player so I'm better for us out there.

That means more than we need to hustle we need to play smart yada yada yada.

That statement above was made with conviction, knicks players say the isiah thomas carsalesman book of rhetoric

I don't disagree with you, I just don't expect our players to feel this way. Most of them have not thought "team" for decades. Why start now? Most of these guys have never learned the finer points of team play. They have been "stars" all their lives. Understanding exactly what it takes to be a leader of a team takes years to learn(if learning it is even possible). I have stopped expecting that thought process here. I am waiting for Isiah to target a proven leader and winner to do so.
I just hope that people will like me
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12/4/2007  5:41 PM
playa, i know what you're trying to say here, but the reality is it doesn't matter if anyone on this team says those words, cuz empty words is all it ends up being when u don't see any real results on the floor... these players have never been accountable for the way they play... they always look to shift blame on others & compare themselves to vastly superior teams like the Celtics... if i have to listen to another Knick talk about how they can play with any team in the league again, i might have to throw a shoe through my monitor screen.

no more talk... the time for talk is long past... these guys need to step up & BE leaders... BE accountable... not talk about it & not deliver... that's what i'm trying to say.
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Posted by TMS:

playa, i know what you're trying to say here, but the reality is it doesn't matter if anyone on this team says those words, cuz empty words is all it ends up being when u don't see any real results on the floor... these players have never been accountable for the way they play... they always look to shift blame on others & compare themselves to vastly superior teams like the Celtics... if i have to listen to another Knick talk about how they can play with any team in the league again, i might have to throw a shoe through my monitor screen.

no more talk... the time for talk is long past... these guys need to step up & BE leaders... BE accountable... not talk about it & not deliver... that's what i'm trying to say.

TMS: I honestly believe that this team can play with any team in the league.
I just hope that people will like me
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12/4/2007  5:52 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by TMS:

playa, i know what you're trying to say here, but the reality is it doesn't matter if anyone on this team says those words, cuz empty words is all it ends up being when u don't see any real results on the floor... these players have never been accountable for the way they play... they always look to shift blame on others & compare themselves to vastly superior teams like the Celtics... if i have to listen to another Knick talk about how they can play with any team in the league again, i might have to throw a shoe through my monitor screen.

no more talk... the time for talk is long past... these guys need to step up & BE leaders... BE accountable... not talk about it & not deliver... that's what i'm trying to say.

TMS: I honestly believe that this team can play with any team in the league.

yes, but play WELL is what i hope to see someday.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-04-2007 2:52 PM]
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by TMS:

playa, i know what you're trying to say here, but the reality is it doesn't matter if anyone on this team says those words, cuz empty words is all it ends up being when u don't see any real results on the floor... these players have never been accountable for the way they play... they always look to shift blame on others & compare themselves to vastly superior teams like the Celtics... if i have to listen to another Knick talk about how they can play with any team in the league again, i might have to throw a shoe through my monitor screen.

no more talk... the time for talk is long past... these guys need to step up & BE leaders... BE accountable... not talk about it & not deliver... that's what i'm trying to say.

TMS: I honestly believe that this team can play with any team in the league.

yes, but play WELL is what i hope to see someday.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-04-2007 2:52 PM]

Obviously you need to be more specific
I just hope that people will like me
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12/4/2007  6:10 PM
i'll try to spell it out clearer next time.
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12/5/2007  6:52 PM
"This year's been up and down for us, but this just makes our team tighter. Everybody's got to come together," Randolph said.

be like Nike Zach... just do it!
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