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Steph's loss will wash away will bringing healing to a team in discord?


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Who believes that Marbury's loss will be a catalyst for him to 1) put his ego aside for the betterment of the team and 2) lessen the resentment and animosity his teammates have for him
yes.
no.
It will only humble Marbury.
It will bring the team closer, but Marbury is Marbury and he will never get with the program.
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Siar617
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12/4/2007  2:07 AM
where is D. it will change nothing
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12/4/2007  2:26 AM
nothing is likely to change... Marbs will mourn his dad's passing, come back & the problems will still exist... the mere thought that a team needs someone's father passing away to motivate them to come together as a team & play hard is very disturbing.
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12/4/2007  8:05 AM
It may make them play better for a little while.
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12/4/2007  8:12 AM
this is merely another distraction that isiah and the players can use as an excuse for not trying/winning.

this very group of players, as assembled as a team, have a firm, established track record of not being able to use events, big wins, etc., that should be 'turn the corner' type events.
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12/4/2007  8:18 AM
Marbury's loss is much larger than basketball

A distraction?

How callous can you be?

idle speculation over the effect of losing a parent has absolutely nothing to do with so-called excuses, winning games, turning any corner or Isiah Thomas. Such grief is not an overnight process nor does it have anything to do with basketball.

Stephon just lost his Father.



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12/4/2007  8:34 AM
This Knicks group may not have been unified on the court but they had already bonded over the course of several events

but why should that stop yet another misleading juicy headline?

HEADLINE: "Knick players feel Don Marbury's death can lead to team unity"

(nowhere, NOWHERE did any Knicks player say that)

BY CHRISTIAN RED
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Tuesday, December 4th 2007, 4:00 AM

Eddy Curry said all of his Knick teammates had reached out to him in July, when he was the victim of a home invasion. Zach Randolph said he leaned on his new team and coach last month following the death of his grandmother.

As the Knicks' center and power forward signed dozens of autographs at the NBA Store Monday - part of their duties during the Garden of Dreams Foundation charity appearance - both players agreed that the sudden death of teammate Stephon Marbury's father Sunday night would prove a catalyst in bringing the fractured team closer.

"I think we kind of look to each other," said Curry, when asked who the team would turn to as its floor general deals with the death of his father, Don. "There's no one particular leader on the team. I think Steph is definitely the person that you get in your head when you think about the New York Knicks. But as far as leadership goes, I think we do a good job, we really try to spread that around.

"I talked to (Marbury) over the e-mail (Sunday) night, told him I was praying for him. He told me everything was going to be okay and not to worry about him. You kind of get lost in basketball with everything that's going on and something like that happens. It's a reality check."

In late July, armed robbers broke into Curry's suburban Chicago home, bound him, his wife and an employee and ransacked the home.

"Everybody reached out to me when it happened and called me, just to make sure everything was okay," said Curry. "In my situation, it was probably something that couldn't have been avoided. My thoughts and prayers go out to Steph and his family. That was devastating. There's no way to really prepare for that kind of stuff."

Randolph missed three games in November attending the funeral of his grandmother in Indiana.

"This year's been up and down for us, but this just makes our team tighter. Everybody's got to come together," Randolph said. "I lost my grandmom a month ago. And (Marbury) just lost his auntie (Helen Thomas). It's been real rough on him."



[Edited by - misterearl on 12-04-2007 08:35 AM]
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12/4/2007  8:37 AM
As noted already if it takes the death of a player's father to turn a crap team into a good one something is amiss. However it's not going to happen. If they beat the Nets people will say it was to win one for Don. If Marbury has a good game upon his return they will say it was to win one for his father.

It's not going to happen. The Knicks will win games here and there and look good as they do at times. Steph will have solid games as he does from time to time. They will be what they've always been and it will have absolutely nothing to do with the passing of Don Marbury although it will be spun that way.

It's yet another false hope that a tragic event will turn a pile of garbage into gold.
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12/4/2007  8:41 AM
cosmic - the press spins ish to sell papers.

That headline made me sick.

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12/4/2007  8:49 AM
Posted by misterearl:

cosmic - the press spins ish to sell papers.

That headline made me sick.

I agree. To be preying on the death of Marbury's father to sell papers is a disgrace. Yet, there's no stopping it, only choosing not to read it.
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12/4/2007  8:56 AM
Cosmic - I just returned from 10 days in Washington DC where the entire atmosphere had a palpable heavy cloud from the death of Sean Taylor. People had Redskins flags fying from cars more than usual all week. Fans cried openly at memorial at FedEx Field.. and at the game. All were moved by the emotion of the players. It was as raw as it gets.

Absolutely none of it was spun as a reason to bring Redskins players closer together.

None.

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12/4/2007  9:22 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Cosmic - I just returned from 10 days in Washington DC where the entire atmosphere had a palpable heavy cloud from the death of Sean Taylor. People had Redskins flags fying from cars more than usual all week. Fans cried openly at memorial at FedEx Field.. and at the game. All were moved by the emotion of the players. It was as raw as it gets.

Absolutely none of it was spun as a reason to bring Redskins players closer together.

None.

Organization lost the credibility and respect.
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[Edited by - arkrud on 12-04-2007 09:29 AM]
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12/4/2007  11:38 AM
I'm sure the passing of Marbury's dad will be every bit the "spark" that other tragedies have been. The rape of Camby's sister, the murder of Q's brother, the break-in of Curry's home, the death of Zach's grandmother, etc.

We are what we are, there are no magic bullets.
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12/4/2007  11:46 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm sure the passing of Marbury's dad will be every bit the "spark" that other tragedies have been. The rape of Camby's sister, the murder of Q's brother, the break-in of Curry's home, the death of Zach's grandmother, etc.

We are what we are, there are no magic bullets.

You forgot 9/11.

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12/4/2007  12:27 PM
To tell you the truth when you lose a parent it hurts like hell, I actually think it will better Steph as a person and player.
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12/4/2007  12:49 PM
If they don't play better, Isiah has his excuse for not making the playoffs..

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12/4/2007  12:54 PM
azamatbagatov - and if they win a writer like Christian Red can always cite Marbury's tragic and sudden loss as a turning point.

you can't lose

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12/4/2007  1:45 PM
unless you are a total loser like:

Darren
December 4th, 2007 at 7:54 am

Isiah needs to get his emotions in order immediately or else he should resign. I feel for Marbury, but the world and especially, the NBA does not stop for the death of the father of the most unpopular player in the league.

At the end of the season, when we have 34 wins, there will be no asterisk stating that the stars of the team had to go on bereavement leave.

This current group is something else: they play together when they want, they quit together when they want, and tomorrow night they’ll play uninspired ball against the Nets. No doubt they’ll blame the loss on “a lot of stuff going on.”
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12/4/2007  1:51 PM
Posted by misterearl:

unless you are a total loser like:

Darren
December 4th, 2007 at 7:54 am

Isiah needs to get his emotions in order immediately or else he should resign. I feel for Marbury, but the world and especially, the NBA does not stop for the death of the father of the most unpopular player in the league.

At the end of the season, when we have 34 wins, there will be no asterisk stating that the stars of the team had to go on bereavement leave.

This current group is something else: they play together when they want, they quit together when they want, and tomorrow night they’ll play uninspired ball against the Nets. No doubt they’ll blame the loss on “a lot of stuff going on.”


"Just win" -- misterearl

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12/4/2007  2:03 PM
exactly
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12/4/2007  2:08 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by misterearl:

unless you are a total loser like:

Darren
December 4th, 2007 at 7:54 am

Isiah needs to get his emotions in order immediately or else he should resign. I feel for Marbury, but the world and especially, the NBA does not stop for the death of the father of the most unpopular player in the league.

At the end of the season, when we have 34 wins, there will be no asterisk stating that the stars of the team had to go on bereavement leave.

This current group is something else: they play together when they want, they quit together when they want, and tomorrow night they’ll play uninspired ball against the Nets. No doubt they’ll blame the loss on “a lot of stuff going on.”


"Just win" -- misterearl

I guess the Knicks just don't listen to Misterearl.
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Steph's loss will wash away will bringing healing to a team in discord?

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