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EnySpree
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12/2/2007  2:53 PM
What do the Knicks need and what do the fans crave?

Defense, outside shooting, and going hard to the rack......if that doesn't describe Fred Jones then I dunno what does. Forget what his rep was. As a Knick, he has been driving hard, moving the ball and knocking down open jumpshots. Dude needs major minutes.

Balkman brings everything people seem to think Q brings. Q is a has been right now. If Balkman got Q's minutes, his production would eclipse that of Q's.

How?

Make a balls out decision and send both Q and Marbs to hell. I respect Q but I love the Knicks. He has to go. His defense aint all that and his 3pt shooting is pathetic. Balkman can do what he does, better. Marbs? Too much focus and energy on a guy that still doesn't get it. Just take the floor from under him and don't look back.

What this does is shorten the depth chart and put the knicks in position to make a real move to help the team get better.

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12/2/2007  3:05 PM
Right now to be honest I think the main reason Q starts is because he rebounds. The fact that Eddie does not rebound makes Stiffy Long Stocking necessary in the lineup. At this point Balkman or Jeffries would be better in the lineup. We can no longer say that Q is a shooter. Q right now is shooting 30% fg and 57% from the foul line. Jeffries or Balkman shooting and be worse than that.

As far as Marbury, he is going to keep on starting until Isiah is fired (Which is not anytime soon). Word is Bullet Head is holding on to 25 50 pound bags of dirt on Isiah.

[Edited by - BigC on 12-02-2007 3:07 PM]
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12/2/2007  5:45 PM
Posted by BigC:

Right now to be honest I think the main reason Q starts is because he rebounds. The fact that Eddie does not rebound makes Stiffy Long Stocking necessary in the lineup. At this point Balkman or Jeffries would be better in the lineup. We can no longer say that Q is a shooter. Q right now is shooting 30% fg and 57% from the foul line. Jeffries or Balkman shooting and be worse than that.

As far as Marbury, he is going to keep on starting until Isiah is fired (Which is not anytime soon). Word is Bullet Head is holding on to 25 50 pound bags of dirt on Isiah.

[Edited by - BigC on 12-02-2007 3:07 PM]

I heard Marbury had dirt on Isiah Thomas sexuality. Zeke might be a switch hitter.
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12/2/2007  5:57 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by BigC:

Right now to be honest I think the main reason Q starts is because he rebounds. The fact that Eddie does not rebound makes Stiffy Long Stocking necessary in the lineup. At this point Balkman or Jeffries would be better in the lineup. We can no longer say that Q is a shooter. Q right now is shooting 30% fg and 57% from the foul line. Jeffries or Balkman shooting and be worse than that.

As far as Marbury, he is going to keep on starting until Isiah is fired (Which is not anytime soon). Word is Bullet Head is holding on to 25 50 pound bags of dirt on Isiah.

I heard Marbury had dirt on Isiah Thomas sexuality. Zeke might be a switch hitter.

So we can add "blackmailer" to Marbury's list of saintly qualities?
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12/2/2007  5:58 PM
I'm glad to see others on this forum are open to the Fred Jones Experience.
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12/2/2007  6:01 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by BigC:

Right now to be honest I think the main reason Q starts is because he rebounds. The fact that Eddie does not rebound makes Stiffy Long Stocking necessary in the lineup. At this point Balkman or Jeffries would be better in the lineup. We can no longer say that Q is a shooter. Q right now is shooting 30% fg and 57% from the foul line. Jeffries or Balkman shooting and be worse than that.

As far as Marbury, he is going to keep on starting until Isiah is fired (Which is not anytime soon). Word is Bullet Head is holding on to 25 50 pound bags of dirt on Isiah.

I heard Marbury had dirt on Isiah Thomas sexuality. Zeke might be a switch hitter.

So we can add "blackmailer" to Marbury's list of saintly qualities?

Or Marbury is just a lunatic in a position of power
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12/2/2007  6:11 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by BigC:

Right now to be honest I think the main reason Q starts is because he rebounds. The fact that Eddie does not rebound makes Stiffy Long Stocking necessary in the lineup. At this point Balkman or Jeffries would be better in the lineup. We can no longer say that Q is a shooter. Q right now is shooting 30% fg and 57% from the foul line. Jeffries or Balkman shooting and be worse than that.

As far as Marbury, he is going to keep on starting until Isiah is fired (Which is not anytime soon). Word is Bullet Head is holding on to 25 50 pound bags of dirt on Isiah.

I heard Marbury had dirt on Isiah Thomas sexuality. Zeke might be a switch hitter.

So we can add "blackmailer" to Marbury's list of saintly qualities?

Or Marbury is just a lunatic in a position of power

Or he became lunatic after getting in position of power.
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12/2/2007  6:45 PM
So blackmailbury and Coach I jumped in he truck together?
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12/2/2007  6:53 PM
Posted by loweyecue:

So blackmailbury and Coach I jumped in he truck together?

This is what has been implied.
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12/2/2007  7:44 PM
eny i like it a lot. i don't think isiah would ever have the balls to do it, but i'd like to see crawford and jones as the backcourt, balkman at 3, lee at 4, and randolph at 5. i think this -- HANDS DOWN -- gives the knicks a mix of scoring, defense, rebounding, etc. the other lineups simply don't work out.

curry, marbury, and Q all don't belong in the starting 5. curry doesn't do enough, marbury as eny said just doesn't get it, and Q has been terrible. Q's minutes should be reduced BIG TIME he's shooting 25% on the year!
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12/2/2007  8:16 PM
Q starts cuz he has experience, defends and the threat of 3 pt shooting. Yeah he hasn't been hitting, but teams still don't just leave him all alone as much as they do Balkman. They'll dare Balk to shoot while they clog the paint around Curry and Zach.

Jones is interesting in that he doesn't hold the ball and that leads to more free flowing offense. Of course Jones defends and he's aggressive offensively and will attack a defense. So it's not a bad idea to try and play him more. I don't see him starting, but increasing his minutes and bringing him in early off the bench if Steph isn't playing well is more realistic. Isiah's not going to go down the bench Steph road again right now.
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12/2/2007  8:19 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

I'm glad to see others on this forum are open to the Fred Jones Experience.

A Perfect hook:

The Fred Jones Experience

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12/2/2007  11:59 PM
it's a sad day in Knicks' history when we're saying things like "Fred Jones should start"... even sadder when it's probably not such a bad idea considering the current circumstances.
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12/3/2007  12:37 AM
Posted by TMS:

it's a sad day in Knicks' history when we're saying things like "Fred Jones should start"... even sadder when it's probably not such a bad idea considering the current circumstances.

And people think that Isiah is not genius...
He knew we will need this short bustard with funky beard to cover the empty spots...
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