Posted by King1:

We were a better team last year with Curry as the centerpiece. Now you have Zach and this team is worse off than last year with a bloated contract. You have to trade Lee because teams want him for a solid 3 man. You get a top 5 pic and you get Rose, Gordan, or Mayo. Then next year we are bad again get another lottery pick and then you have a decent team

We're not guaranteed to strike rich in the lottery even if we finish with A Top 5 worst record plus such players actually have to declare. Concerning Lee he probably gets traded to PDX for Miles/pick for Lee/Rose

What you want to do--essentially have the whole team bought out--is not an option. I think it was dumb moving away from the HUGE amount of progress Curry made last year and they put to much emphasis on getting talent over chemistry. I'm noy saying Curry is the franchise player we need to build around --rather a 24 YO C who can give me 20-24 6-8 57-60% from the C position and that we need help everywhere else. Our chemistry is wrecked and we need Starbury and crawford to play well or we will lose--and that wont happen every night for sure.

i think we have to start w/getting rid of Isiah & Marbury, then trading Curry or Lee for a defensive shotblocking front court player... there are still many more areas to address than that, but it's a start... Zach is pretty much untradeable for anything of worth because of his contract, so we're pretty much stuck w/him for another 3 years at least.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by BRIGGS:

What you want to do--essentially have the whole team bought out--is not an option. I think it was dumb moving away from the HUGE amount of progress Curry made last year and they put to much emphasis on getting talent over chemistry. I'm noy saying Curry is the franchise player we need to build around --rather a 24 YO C who can give me 20-24 6-8 57-60% from the C position and that we need help everywhere else. Our chemistry is wrecked and we need Starbury and crawford to play well or we will lose--and that wont happen every night for sure.

Building around a Center who doesn't want to and will not play D is a recipe for disaster. I think EY might be able to fetch us a Top 10 pick possibly that should be explored first and foremost.

I'm going to tell you right now that 90%+ of top NBA guys would NOT trade Eddy Curry unless they were getting a package like a KG back. They arent going to do it for picks etc.. they would think--like I do--that the EASIER fix is to find better players and a new system around Curry --they need a star 2 or 3 type player and a consistent long-term PG. You are talking like this is fantasy basketball or another sport like baseball where player movement is easier. The Bulls would still have Curry if it wasnt for his heart. I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Let's say for instance the Knicks drafted Sean Williams to play 4 with Curry at 5--and emphasized on getting better and faster in the backcourt. There is NO plan--that is a HUGE problem. Eddy is the least of the problems here.

I guarantee you no GM would bring K.G. into the discussion for Curry. Curry's value isn't that high and he's a huge part of the problem. You're being stubborn speaking on his impact and importance to this franchise.

Posted by BRIGGS:

What you want to do--essentially have the whole team bought out--is not an option. I think it was dumb moving away from the HUGE amount of progress Curry made last year and they put to much emphasis on getting talent over chemistry. I'm noy saying Curry is the franchise player we need to build around --rather a 24 YO C who can give me 20-24 6-8 57-60% from the C position and that we need help everywhere else. Our chemistry is wrecked and we need Starbury and crawford to play well or we will lose--and that wont happen every night for sure.

Briggs: I consider you one of the more knowledgeable fans on this board. Your player analysis is top notch. But...............I demand that you redo Curry's potential rebounding numbers to be 5-6 rebounds per game. Thank you.

I think Curry is a better option than Zach just put someone next to him that can rebound and play defense and get some guards that and chemistry is what this team is missing

When a team is losing it seems like everyone is part of the problem. You have to be smart and look into who is causing the team to lose on a consistent basis. What I know is that this team doesn't have leadership on it. They probably don't prctice as hard as say, the Spurs or Boston becuase great players like KG and Duncan demand their teammates to play at a higher level. That was the case with Ewing, Jordan and other greats they demanded their teammates to work harder than they ever did. With this current team I can see the team not working hard in practice it is the reflection of the team leaders the captains. Isiah needs to make a deal happen or go down hard this season. He needs to bring a superstar to the KNicks who is a born leader and a player who he actually can hand the gym keys over to. Right now there is no direction and coach can't give that only a player with leadership can do that.

Here is the problem:

Isiah doesn't know how to find talent. Plain and simple if you want to build around someone you maximize your weapon. You don't replicate it exactly and create the same problem....

What wins in the NBA? Defense, taking care of the basketball and playing a team game. So why do you trade for the same player who commits more turnovers and is selfish. Teams just don't trade 20 10 players away so they can buy out a contract. Yet again ala steve francis we have traded for a player with a long deal we can't trade....

What we needed was shooters, much like Orlando has done surrounding dwight howard to space the floor that was the only option for the knicks. But isiah neeeded to set the franchise back another decade......

Just because you have a trust fund you should not have the right to **** up an entire cities team, which is what Dolan has done. Isiah is a snake, and anyone who has been supportive of this guy is just plain dumb, this has nothing to do with being a knicks fan. If your a fan and realize that everything this man does kills us one step further and don't want to support it's your right.

Isiah had to know he was going to trade for Curry or at least try to get him. So why don't you take Granger to go with him why get rid of kurt thomas someone that can compliment him. Bynum, Gay, Alridge, Roy everyone in the draft class that isiah slammed is better than Eddy, the guy has no heart as does this entire team.

At this point you need to trade everyone, lee, balkman, nate and start over because no one is going to want to stay, mills, isiah everyone must go.

Curry is not a player you can build anything around. Francise players don't have to have an entire unit make up for his lack of talent

Here is what you do:

GM: Colangelo
Coach: Mark Jackson or Rick Carlisle
Assistants: Ewing, Oakley

Fred Jones, Balkman, Collins for Artest
Nate Robinson and a pick for Kyle Lowry

Lowry-Crawford
Marbury-Q
Artest-Chandler
Zach-Lee
Eddy-Rose