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Solace
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11/28/2007  9:50 AM
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Reggie Miller Calls Knicks A Joke
November 28, 2007 - 5:44 am
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"Right now, they are a league-wide joke," Reggie Miller said of the New York Knicks . "It's sad because they are an historic and iconic franchise. But people think they are late night comedy jokes."

Miller, the legendary former Indiana Pacers guard and renowned Knicks villain, will call tomorrow's Knicks-Celtics game for TNT. His broadcasting partners include Hall of Fame announcer Marv Albert, who was unceremoniously dumped by the Garden, and Mike Fratello, who had a handshake agreement with Isiah Thomas to coach the Knicks before Thomas decided to hire Lenny Wilkens.

Miller, of course, has a connection to Thomas. Besides playing against each other, Thomas was Miller's coach for three seasons at Indiana. Although the Pacers never advanced past the first round under Thomas, Indiana did reach the playoffs all three years under him.

Miller believes that considering the state of the Eastern Conference and the Knicks' talent base, Thomas should be able to get his team to crack the top eight.

"All I know is that Isiah has the talent to make them a playoff-caliber team," Miller said yesterday over the telephone. "With the talent New York has, they should easily be in the top six. Only Orlando and Boston are running away with the conference. New York is not out of it. All they need is a four- or five-game winning streak and they've already won two of them." [READ]
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11/28/2007  10:02 AM
So we are a joke but should easily be in top 6... Hmmm.... Interesting
So there are 10 even bigger jokes in the East that us... Cool
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11/28/2007  10:08 AM
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11/28/2007  10:15 AM
Posted by arkrud:

So we are a joke but should easily be in top 6... Hmmm.... Interesting
So there are 10 even bigger jokes in the East that us... Cool

we're a joke because we *should be* top 6 and *are* bottom 3.
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11/28/2007  10:23 AM
Do we have to sic John Starks on his ass?
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11/28/2007  10:27 AM
AS much as I hated Miller, and as much as I hate him saying this, I don't know if you can argue he is wrong.
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11/28/2007  10:54 AM
I read this twice and what I got out of it is he thinks the fact that we're not living up to our talent potential is a joke. In that, it's somewhat of a 'positive' comment by suggesting we have the talent but the 'negative' is that for whatever reason we've still stunk.

I'm sure he's also referring to the off-court squabbles from Dolan to Anucha to AWOLBuryGate.


Be prepared for more of this Thursday night as he will be broadcasting and Chuck will be eagerly awaiting to hammer us during the studio sessions.
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11/28/2007  11:09 AM
Posted by Cosmic:

I read this twice and what I got out of it is he thinks the fact that we're not living up to our talent potential is a joke. In that, it's somewhat of a 'positive' comment by suggesting we have the talent but the 'negative' is that for whatever reason we've still stunk.

I'm sure he's also referring to the off-court squabbles from Dolan to Anucha to AWOLBuryGate.


Be prepared for more of this Thursday night as he will be broadcasting and Chuck will be eagerly awaiting to hammer us during the studio sessions.

Thursday will be a yukfest. Wanna know who Miller is calling the game with?

Marv Albert and Mike Fratello. Yeah. Like the network didn't set THIS one up.
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11/28/2007  3:38 PM
New York is not out of it. All they need is a four- or five-game winning streak and they've already won two of them."

great... so we'd be 6-9 or 7-9 & still not in the playoff picture.
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11/28/2007  7:07 PM
Posted by TMS:
New York is not out of it. All they need is a four- or five-game winning streak and they've already won two of them."

great... so we'd be 6-9 or 7-9 & still not in the playoff picture.

We will make playoff easily... in D-league... I hope...
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11/28/2007  9:07 PM
pure sensationalism and people with poor reading comprehension eat it up everytime. He didn't call us a joke, he said people think we are a joke, he is describing the state of affairs, when he gave his personal opinion he sad different things.
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11/28/2007  10:19 PM
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11/28/2007  10:35 PM
Say it one more time.
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11/28/2007  10:36 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

pure sensationalism and people with poor reading comprehension eat it up everytime. He didn't call us a joke, he said people think we are a joke, he is describing the state of affairs, when he gave his personal opinion he sad different things.

A) These are his words: "Right now, they are a league-wide joke," Reggie Miller said of the New York Knicks.
B) Why the insult? The title of the article was "Reggie Miller Calls Knicks A Joke". Based on the fact that he said that almost verbatim, it's a fair title.

It's kind of like, "Greg is a dumbass. It's sad because he's done well in the past, but people are getting such a kick out of watching him making an ass out of himself." "But... he has potential."

Is it news that Reggie said we have potential? Everyone has said that, even the "haters".

Maybe you have poor reading comprehension or Must-Defend-Knicks-At-All-Cost-Itis.


[Edited by - Solace on Nov 28 2007 10:36 PM]
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11/29/2007  12:26 AM
Reggie clearly said everyone posting on ultimateknicks.com is a closet Celtic fan... i can read between the lines... bastard... i hate him.
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11/29/2007  5:46 AM
how could anyone not call this franchise a joke? your "star" bolts, the coach takes a vote from the team on allowing him back, they unanimously vote not, and he takes him right back. 'joke' is actually a nice word compared to other potential choices.
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11/29/2007  7:57 AM
Deep Throat

Marv - you think the unanimous vote results against Marbury were leaked to the press deliberately by that smarmy Isiah to reinforce a "put up or be gone" message to Stephon - or to dictate his final decision on number 3's minutes as head coach?

who else would do such an underhanded thing as to leak a private team vote?
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11/29/2007  8:08 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Deep Throat

Marv - you think the unanimous vote results against Marbury were leaked to the press deliberately by that smarmy Isiah to reinforce a "put up or be gone" message to Stephon - or to dictate his final decision on number 3's minutes as head coach?

who else would do such an underhanded thing as to leak a private team vote?

i don't think isiah leaked it. i think isiah and steph got caught up in an inappropriate power struggle for a coach/gm and player to be in. i think isiah made a very poor move by taking the vote if he had no intention of standing by the results. i think the results were leaked to the press by a player or team employee, out of exasperation and incredulity over what a joke this franchise has become.
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11/29/2007  8:20 AM
Marv - I agree with you 100 per cent on not following the unanimous players decision.

100 per cent. Ignoring the vote renders any future player input meaningless and creates a situation ripe for mistrust a new anti-Marbury/Isiah clique in the locker room.

what player you think was the source?

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11/29/2007  9:15 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Killa4luv:

pure sensationalism and people with poor reading comprehension eat it up everytime. He didn't call us a joke, he said people think we are a joke, he is describing the state of affairs, when he gave his personal opinion he sad different things.

A) These are his words: "Right now, they are a league-wide joke," Reggie Miller said of the New York Knicks.
B) Why the insult? The title of the article was "Reggie Miller Calls Knicks A Joke". Based on the fact that he said that almost verbatim, it's a fair title.

It's kind of like, "Greg is a dumbass. It's sad because he's done well in the past, but people are getting such a kick out of watching him making an ass out of himself." "But... he has potential."

Is it news that Reggie said we have potential? Everyone has said that, even the "haters".

Maybe you have poor reading comprehension or Must-Defend-Knicks-At-All-Cost-Itis.


[Edited by - Solace on Nov 28 2007 10:36 PM]

Nah, Solace, I wasn't directing it at you, more at the people who read the papers and will think Miller hates us or something. Reggie Miller was saying that many people in the league consider the knicks a joke. Not saying "I think the knicks are a joke.' Thats is an important difference. But in any event, I wasn't trying to make a personal attack on you at all.
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