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mythfaze
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11/26/2007  11:39 AM
The Knicks can be fixed – without any trades or changes in personnel. We're not wasting any time – we have a game tonight. At our team meeting this afternoon, here is our plan to do it:

OUR NEW STARTING FIVE: Stephon Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Jared Jeffries, David Lee, Eddy Curry

Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph: You cannot be on the floor together. This is a bad offensive scheme – it is not your fault. We need one of you on each unit and can interchange you throughout the game. Whoever has it going the best that night will be the guy on the floor down the stretch in the fourth quarter.

Zach: You are going to be the anchor of the second unit. Your attitude, effort and behavior last night in the Garden was a disgusting display of disrespect to our fans. You have a lot of making up to do to them. In order to learn to handle this assignment of coming off the bench, here is Manu Ginobili's cell number: 1-800-BE-A-PRO.

Eddy: This is your opportunity to be the consistent, dominant post player you have the ability to be. We won't just dump it in and stand around like we have been. We will create more action around you to give you more room to work. We question your commitment to being great. This is your chance to prove us wrong.

You guys are both overweight – this is your fault. Both of you need to lose those five bags of sugar you are carrying around in your uniforms. You will room together on the road with our new assistant coaches: Jared Fogle and Clay Henry from Subway.

David Lee: Last season you shot 60% from the field, setting a Knick single season record. We rewarded you by sitting you behind a guy who is shooting 40% and plays half as hard as you do. That is our fault. No more will we have to see that "what kind of nightmare am I living" look on your face. You are a starter for life.

Stephon Marbury and Jamal Crawford: Our scheme of throwing it into the double black holes and standing around doesn't take advantage of your skills, talents and ability to score. That is our fault. Although we will still run some things through the big guys, we are screening, cutting and creating sets and situations for you.

We are going to get you to open areas, give you driving lanes, and get you shots. The days of catching the ball, staring down your defender and having to make something up against their whole team are over. Your struggles offensively are our fault. You guys can be a dynamic duo of offense and we are going to put you in position to do just that.

Steph: All that garbage and immaturity off the court distracting the team is your fault. You deserved to be booed last night. You have even more to make up to your teammates and the fans. It is your job to see that those days are over. It's time to grow up. Your slate is clean.

Jared Jeffries: You were a starter on a playoff team. We brought you to New York, ruined your confidence and buried you on the bench. That is our fault. You have value as our fifth starter – defender, passer, rebounder – giving us a little of everything.

On behalf of the entire Knick organization, please accept my apology for your head coach publicly bashing you at the Orlando Pre-Draft Camp last June – dropping F-bombs about you and your game – and in front of the head coach's son. Those days are over. We believe in you. Help us win.

OUR BENCH: Maybe The Best In The NBA

Quentin Richardson and Fred Jones: Before you came to New York, both of you could shoot the three.

Q: You shot between 35-37% the last four years from behind the arc. Fred, from 04-06, you made 150 threes and shot 36% from behind the arc.

The fact that you are not contributing is our fault. Reversing the trend of players getting worse when they come to New York, you guys are going back to being bombers. You are going to be working daily with our new shooting coach, and you have the green light on the second unit to fire away.

We will also insert either of you into the starting line-up when we need more shooting, and you will be on the floor at the end of games to help us put teams away. You are not locked into the second unit.

Q: You don't have to room with Zach and Eddy, but you must eat your meals with Clay Henry.

Nate Robinson and Renaldo Balkman: We are going to turn you loose to wreak havoc on the second units of the league. We want you to push, run and pressure – be aggressive and attack at all times. When you guys take the floor, we want to feel the electricity throughout the arena – energize our team!

Zach: You are on this unit that will push, run, shoot threes and attack the rim. You won't be the first option, because you can't get to the offensive end fast enough. We won't wait for you. You are our go-to-guy in the last half of the shot clock, and we will surround you with quickness and shooters making you unstoppable. Again, how you choose to respond to coming off the bench is up to you. Your slate is clean as well. Keep Manu on speed dial.

Steph, Jamal: We will play one of you with the second unit at times, to give us more creativity and scoring punch. It will give you both an opportunity to play that scorer's role with a different group and create matchup nightmares for opponents. You will both be terrific in this role with this unit.

Mardy Collins and Wilson Chandler: You are going to get minutes. Because we are going to play so hard, you will get opportunities to contribute. We need you to run, defend, hustle, rebound and do all those little things that contribute to winning.

OUR TEAM

All 12 Of You: Your poor, pathetic defensive effort and overall lack of hustle on the court is YOUR fault. We will defend, compete and play hard – every play, every night.

We will pledge to give you professional leadership and put you in position to be successful. We demand that from ourselves and you should demand it from us. Anything less than that is unacceptable. We deserve to be booed, publicly criticized and fired if we give you any less than our best professional effort.

What we demand from each of you is professional commitment to our organization, our fans and to our team. Anything less than that is unacceptable. You deserve to be booed, publicly criticized and fired if you give us anything less than your best professional effort.

Practice is at 3:00 pm at the high school down the street. We will leave from there to go right to the game. Be on the first bus. Fogle and Henry - bring the box lunches.
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mythfaze
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11/26/2007  11:42 AM
While I think this is a great read and agree with a lot of what they say - I don't think benching Randolph will work. You see how angry and whiny he gets after a call doesn't go his way? How he gives up and shuffles back on defense, still steaming? I can't imagine what he'll turn into/how he'll fall apart if it is more than just a call one one play that doesn't go his way. If we thought Marbury's reaction to being benched was bad, I'd love to see Randolph's.
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11/26/2007  11:44 AM
The way that I see Jared Jeffries is that he doesn't give us a lot of of everything.
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11/26/2007  11:44 AM
Have to like a few things said there, JJ2 has played a lot better this year and Zach and Eddy just don't work.

Nor does the following lineup: Nate, Jones, Jefferies, Lee, Balkman? Isiah is coaching worse than Larry, way worse, which should be noted.

I think the pressing style and Nate and Zach can be the focal point of the second unit. Zach is a piece of **** and has played like one turning the ball over complaining and not hustling and is overweight, we are not utlizing our weapons effectively.
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11/26/2007  12:29 PM
good read, and I do agree that lee needs to start and deserves and apology. Apologizing to marbury? I am not buying that.. LOL..

I also agree about giving Jeffries starts at the forward spot, and bringing zach off the bench... Although zach won't like that, it may be for the better of the team... If he doesn't like it, then too bad.. as far as I am concerned.. again, these are the same mental midgets that isiah finds himself attracted to, over and over again.. it never fails..
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11/26/2007  1:27 PM
Posted by mythfaze:

The Knicks can be fixed – without any trades or changes in personnel. We're not wasting any time – we have a game tonight. At our team meeting this afternoon, here is our plan to do it:

OUR NEW STARTING FIVE: Stephon Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Jared Jeffries, David Lee, Eddy Curry

Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph: You cannot be on the floor together. This is a bad offensive scheme – it is not your fault. We need one of you on each unit and can interchange you throughout the game. Whoever has it going the best that night will be the guy on the floor down the stretch in the fourth quarter.

Zach: You are going to be the anchor of the second unit. Your attitude, effort and behavior last night in the Garden was a disgusting display of disrespect to our fans. You have a lot of making up to do to them. In order to learn to handle this assignment of coming off the bench, here is Manu Ginobili's cell number: 1-800-BE-A-PRO.

Eddy: This is your opportunity to be the consistent, dominant post player you have the ability to be. We won't just dump it in and stand around like we have been. We will create more action around you to give you more room to work. We question your commitment to being great. This is your chance to prove us wrong.

You guys are both overweight – this is your fault. Both of you need to lose those five bags of sugar you are carrying around in your uniforms. You will room together on the road with our new assistant coaches: Jared Fogle and Clay Henry from Subway.

David Lee: Last season you shot 60% from the field, setting a Knick single season record. We rewarded you by sitting you behind a guy who is shooting 40% and plays half as hard as you do. That is our fault. No more will we have to see that "what kind of nightmare am I living" look on your face. You are a starter for life.

Stephon Marbury and Jamal Crawford: Our scheme of throwing it into the double black holes and standing around doesn't take advantage of your skills, talents and ability to score. That is our fault. Although we will still run some things through the big guys, we are screening, cutting and creating sets and situations for you.

We are going to get you to open areas, give you driving lanes, and get you shots. The days of catching the ball, staring down your defender and having to make something up against their whole team are over. Your struggles offensively are our fault. You guys can be a dynamic duo of offense and we are going to put you in position to do just that.

Steph: All that garbage and immaturity off the court distracting the team is your fault. You deserved to be booed last night. You have even more to make up to your teammates and the fans. It is your job to see that those days are over. It's time to grow up. Your slate is clean.

Jared Jeffries: You were a starter on a playoff team. We brought you to New York, ruined your confidence and buried you on the bench. That is our fault. You have value as our fifth starter – defender, passer, rebounder – giving us a little of everything.

On behalf of the entire Knick organization, please accept my apology for your head coach publicly bashing you at the Orlando Pre-Draft Camp last June – dropping F-bombs about you and your game – and in front of the head coach's son. Those days are over. We believe in you. Help us win.

OUR BENCH: Maybe The Best In The NBA

Quentin Richardson and Fred Jones: Before you came to New York, both of you could shoot the three.

Q: You shot between 35-37% the last four years from behind the arc. Fred, from 04-06, you made 150 threes and shot 36% from behind the arc.

The fact that you are not contributing is our fault. Reversing the trend of players getting worse when they come to New York, you guys are going back to being bombers. You are going to be working daily with our new shooting coach, and you have the green light on the second unit to fire away.

We will also insert either of you into the starting line-up when we need more shooting, and you will be on the floor at the end of games to help us put teams away. You are not locked into the second unit.

Q: You don't have to room with Zach and Eddy, but you must eat your meals with Clay Henry.

Nate Robinson and Renaldo Balkman: We are going to turn you loose to wreak havoc on the second units of the league. We want you to push, run and pressure – be aggressive and attack at all times. When you guys take the floor, we want to feel the electricity throughout the arena – energize our team!

Zach: You are on this unit that will push, run, shoot threes and attack the rim. You won't be the first option, because you can't get to the offensive end fast enough. We won't wait for you. You are our go-to-guy in the last half of the shot clock, and we will surround you with quickness and shooters making you unstoppable. Again, how you choose to respond to coming off the bench is up to you. Your slate is clean as well. Keep Manu on speed dial.

Steph, Jamal: We will play one of you with the second unit at times, to give us more creativity and scoring punch. It will give you both an opportunity to play that scorer's role with a different group and create matchup nightmares for opponents. You will both be terrific in this role with this unit.

Mardy Collins and Wilson Chandler: You are going to get minutes. Because we are going to play so hard, you will get opportunities to contribute. We need you to run, defend, hustle, rebound and do all those little things that contribute to winning.

OUR TEAM

All 12 Of You: Your poor, pathetic defensive effort and overall lack of hustle on the court is YOUR fault. We will defend, compete and play hard – every play, every night.

We will pledge to give you professional leadership and put you in position to be successful. We demand that from ourselves and you should demand it from us. Anything less than that is unacceptable. We deserve to be booed, publicly criticized and fired if we give you any less than our best professional effort.

What we demand from each of you is professional commitment to our organization, our fans and to our team. Anything less than that is unacceptable. You deserve to be booed, publicly criticized and fired if you give us anything less than your best professional effort.

Practice is at 3:00 pm at the high school down the street. We will leave from there to go right to the game. Be on the first bus. Fogle and Henry - bring the box lunches.

You forget the first step - fire Isiah.
Other steps are possible only after this one.

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11/26/2007  2:14 PM
You forget the first step - fire Isiah.
Other steps are possible only after this one.

Yup after this fool gets fired than talk to me about fixing the Knick's roster.
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11/26/2007  2:14 PM
Still don't buy JJ2 as a starter. I'm sorry. He brings nothing.
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11/26/2007  2:47 PM
I enjoyed reading that. Jared has actually been playing fine when he's been out there. He's like balkman so either player would be better than Q.

The total dump it down @ all cost thing sucks. switching up zach and lee makes sense cuz zach can score. Instant offense and makes you feel better when curry is getting offensive fouls.

I also would love to see the knicks set picks and free up lanes for craw and marbs to do more than go one on one.

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11/26/2007  2:54 PM
We need a coach that will do these things.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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11/26/2007  3:06 PM
Good article. Much better that the usual Isiah hate and Marbury is evil.
Bring back dee-fense
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11/26/2007  3:48 PM
Also would open up things for Q in the post; he really needs a few touches down there but can never get any, which is a problem no ones is really showcased except for Zach and Eddy. Lee should really never come off the floor because he is efficient and can pass the ball a second unit of

Crawford
Richardson/Jones
Balkman
Lee
Zach

Would be good because it gives crawford the oppurtunity to be aggressive from the point guard position and Zach can get his touches and lee and balkman can provide the energy

Nate
Marbury
Jefferies
Lee
Curry

As the starting unit give Marbury the ability to be aggressive, Isiah just has no idea whats going on if he doesn't have the ball in his hands he is so bad at lineups, offensive game plans, defensive gameplans, just terrible
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11/26/2007  4:24 PM
this is garbage... anyone who thinks this mess can be fixed by just playing w/the rotation is as clueless as Isiah.
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11/26/2007  4:37 PM
I felt this was both a realistic and optimistic way to change the team for the better without any trades/FA signings.

A lot of it is just common sense. Common sense says that having Eddy Curry and Zach on the floor at the same time is redundant. Common sense says that having 4 guys standing around watching ANYONe, be it Kobe or Starbury or Zach or Eddy does not make for good team basketball.
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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11/26/2007  4:38 PM
interesting idea, but as always, Jared Jefferies (and the rest of the team) look better on paper than they do in reality.
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11/26/2007  5:52 PM
It really is a coaching thing. The rotation does matter and anyone that says otherwise is underestimating what having the proper combinations on the floor at the right time can really do for a team.

The Idea of bringing Zach off the bench doesn't really do much for me. It's not Zach and Curry that cause us problems. It's the lack of motion and deception from our guards. The lack of good passing and shooting from our guards and SF position. You can't have 2 studs inside and no shooting, passing or motion on the perimeter. Teams will just clog up the paint and dig down on your bigs when they put the ball on the floor.

We shouldn't have let Nichols go, I don't care if he can't defend, the guy does one thing that we can't get from our guards now and that is shoot.

We shouldn't be sitting Chan. Q is hurt and that's too bad, but when you have a healthy and more talented player on the bench just sitting there it's a mistake in my book. He may not be ready for primetime, but any playing time he get's will only help him to be a contributor sooner.

We should give Nate a bit more burn. He's been much better this year and his shooting is better than Steph and Jamal. A few more minutes won't kill us.

We need to give Lee more post opportunities. The guy isn't bad and seems to get better the more touches he gets. Is there really any logic to playing Zach so many minutes? He'll live if he splits some time with Lee.
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11/26/2007  6:42 PM
Posted by nixluva:

It really is a coaching thing. The rotation does matter and anyone that says otherwise is underestimating what having the proper combinations on the floor at the right time can really do for a team.

The Idea of bringing Zach off the bench doesn't really do much for me. It's not Zach and Curry that cause us problems. It's the lack of motion and deception from our guards. The lack of good passing and shooting from our guards and SF position. You can't have 2 studs inside and no shooting, passing or motion on the perimeter. Teams will just clog up the paint and dig down on your bigs when they put the ball on the floor.

We shouldn't have let Nichols go, I don't care if he can't defend, the guy does one thing that we can't get from our guards now and that is shoot.

We shouldn't be sitting Chan. Q is hurt and that's too bad, but when you have a healthy and more talented player on the bench just sitting there it's a mistake in my book. He may not be ready for primetime, but any playing time he get's will only help him to be a contributor sooner.

We should give Nate a bit more burn. He's been much better this year and his shooting is better than Steph and Jamal. A few more minutes won't kill us.

We need to give Lee more post opportunities. The guy isn't bad and seems to get better the more touches he gets. Is there really any logic to playing Zach so many minutes? He'll live if he splits some time with Lee.

I thought it was clear statement - the problem of Eddy/Zach duo is DEFENSE. Actually absence of any defense.
That’s why they should not play together, or better play for some other team, or do gymnastics, or boxing, or whatever.
Same true for craf and marbs. One cannot defend traffic light pool another cannot defend people who are moving not only straight.
And if you will add 2 first year players to this you have shot to set all time NBA record of scoring for... opponents.




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11/27/2007  1:14 AM
Explain to me again why you are benching the guy averaging 18 and 12 and are keeping the guy averaging 19 and 6 in the starting lineup?

Does 2 inches and 30 pounds really mean that much when the bigger guy doesn't want to use his size?
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11/27/2007  4:57 AM
if we could pull off a randolph for odom deal i think we'd be in much better shape. makes sense for the lakers to get a legit 2nd scoring option with kobe, and we desperately need a 3 that can shoot and pass.
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