Posted by jaydh:

If I were Mets, I would consider trading Reyes depending on who else would have to be included and who out there are options for SS. I know Minaya likes Eckstein and has contacted him, so maybe he is considering it too.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

If the Twins approached me asking for Cano and indicating 6 year, $150 mil contract for Santana was required, I'd give a very simple response: "Where do I sign?"!

yup, so would i... give up Cano & sign David Eckstein... if we could get to keep our top 3 pitching prospects & still get Santana signed longterm that's a no brainer.

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

If the Twins approached me asking for Cano and indicating 6 year, $150 mil contract for Santana was required, I'd give a very simple response: "Where do I sign?"!

yup, so would i... give up Cano & sign David Eckstein... if we could get to keep our top 3 pitching prospects & still get Santana signed longterm that's a no brainer.

Yanks have said they won't trade Cano. A deal of Hughes or Joba and lesser guys isn't going to get it done, especially with the stipulation that he will immediately re-sign. Either both Hughes and Joba or (Hughes/Joba) and Cano will be the starting point for the yanks to have a chance.

Posted by jaydh:

If I were Mets, I would consider trading Reyes depending on who else would have to be included and who out there are options for SS. I know Minaya likes Eckstein and has contacted him, so maybe he is considering it too.

Posted by jazz74:

Posted by majorleads:

Posted by jaydh:

If I were Mets, I would consider trading Reyes depending on who else would have to be included and who out there are options for SS. I know Minaya likes Eckstein and has contacted him, so maybe he is considering it too.

No chance in hell of that happening. NO WAY would I even consider trading Jose Reyes, unless I had Hanley Ramirez waiting at AAA. If the Twins want Reyes, I pass. Minaya does too. Santana doesn't guarantee anything and we'd have a huge gaping hole at SS. Reyes saves us a TON of runs every year with his great defense. Santana would get booed off the mound if he didn't pitch well every start IF he was traded for Reyes. Reyes is one of our very few homegrown stars, Omar can't deal him away. Not now.

wait, let's think about this for a moment. true reyes is a great talent and one of the best ss in the game. however, when we needed him last year he did not show up. as a matter of fact, how was his attitude the last month? awful. not to mention that he started the season toted as the best ss in the league but ended the season as the third best IN HIS DIVISION. the only thing he did better this year was stealing bases. he had a down season. now we are talking about santana, one of the best pitchers today. PERIOD. this is a franchise pitcher. he is a peavy/beckett level pitcher and we are debating on trading an inconsistent reyes? believe me, i like reyes and if someone ask for a trade for him for anyone else, it would have to be a resounding no. but to get a potentially top three pitcher in baseball, it is a resounding HELL YES! sign eckstein and we are set defensively.

Santana is the best or at the very least top 3 in the game. I understand that. I also understand pitching is the most important part of baseball. I also understand that without Santana we're pretty much in the same boat as last season.

And I know Reyes had an awful second half.

I say, SO WHAT.

Jose Reyes is one of the VERY FEW stars our franchise has produced. If we had a bevy of top prospects waiting in the wings, I would make the trade in heartbeat and if Jose Reyes wasn't homegrown, I'd say goodbye faster than Isiah doles out full mle's.

I just feel this offseason is not a year to drastically alter our team. We need to let our own prospects mature and we have to get rid of some of these untrustworthy injury prone geezers like Delgado and Alou in order for us to move forward. We need to see another year of Ollie and Maine before we commit long term to them. We need to see Pelfrey gain his confidence because he does have great stuff. We need to fix our bullpen. We need Duaner Sanchez back. We need Billy Wagner to not blow games in September. We need a catcher who knows how to call a game. We need Luis Castillo to stay healthy for a full season. We need Willie Randolph to get better as a manager. We need Omar to have a better offseason this year than last.

Point is, we have so many question marks heading into this season and so many things have to go right for us to even make it to the World Series. I mean, afterall we are bringing in Santana to compete for a World Series this season right? What if we don't make it to the World Series with Santana, but we watch as Reyes bounces back and has a superstar season?

Jose Reyes is our guy and until we get more of "our guys" coming up and doing well, we cannot trade the ones who do well here away.

If a deal for Santana would dramatically alter the shape of the Mets' off-season, that's a deal Minaya isn't favored to make. To land the best pitcher in baseball, the Yankees could package Phil Hughes or Ian Kennedy (they're not giving up Joba Chamberlain) with Robinson Cano or Melky Cabrera, and the Red Sox could package Clay Buchholz or Jon Lester with Jacoby Ellsbury.

The Mets can't beat those potential offers with the likes of Lastings Milledge and Mike Pelfrey and Carlos Gomez, and they surely won't toss David Wright or Jose Reyes into the pot.

Posted by TMS:

if the Mets wanna have a shot at winning a WS, they'll do what it takes to trade for Johan... same for the Yankees... both teams are lacking a true #1 ace, & those types of players can make all the difference in any playoff series... u can replace Reyes' speed w/Carlos Gomez & sign a leadoff hitter like Eckstein to be the catalyst at the top of your lineup... u cannot in any way, shape or form hope to replicate the production that you'd get out of a guy like Johan anchoring your rotation for the next 7 years... i doubt the Mets do it though.