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Growing tired of Q's wise man comments
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EnySpree
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11/21/2007  10:05 AM
Q talks like he is the only one playing well. This dude is a waste. He is build thicker than Curry yet he likes to chuck 3's. He consistantly gets his ass bust on the defensive end just as bad as any other Knick.

In fact, is he even a 3/2 anymore? The dude is more productive when the knicks post him up. Q might actually be better suited as the back up power fwd!

What a freakin waste! Injuries aren't an excuse. He is a big for nothing piece of ****. If im lying im flying, bros(and brodetts).

He doesn't get it. He's just like the rest of the guys talking **** but playing like **** as well.

He is the worst player on the team this year. With the way everyone has been playing, that's a huge kick in the ass from your boy enyspree.

Don't get me wrong man. I like the guy personally. I dig his style and how he carries himself, but the dude is the worst player in the nba.

If he's gonna be a big swollen turtle, then he should focus on playing power fwd.

Stop saying he "gets it" cuz he aint getting a damn thing.
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11/21/2007  10:10 AM
He's had half a good season since he's gotten here. Why is this news to anyone?
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11/21/2007  10:11 AM
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11/21/2007  10:12 AM
Thank you, Confucious.
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11/21/2007  10:14 AM
I respectfully disagree. From my point of view, I'm less concerned with playing well and more concerned with playing hard. Q, Balk, Lee and Collins are not playing well and none of them have for extended periods of time.

And yet I feel all four "get it"
I just hope that people will like me
martin
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11/21/2007  10:16 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

I respectfully disagree. From my point of view, I'm less concerned with playing well and more concerned with playing hard. Q, Balk, Lee and Collins are not playing well and none of them have for extended periods of time.

And yet I feel all four "get it"

same.
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11/21/2007  10:20 AM
Granted the fact that Q is playing like crap and has been for quite sometime now he still gives an effort. That I think is the difference. Too bad his skills have diminished because we could really use a leader that can play well and get the team to play with more effort.
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11/21/2007  10:22 AM
There is never a time where you look on the court and see Q giving anything less than 100%
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11/21/2007  10:33 AM
I think sometimes Q plays lazy and falls in love with the 3. He just sort of camps out there.
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11/21/2007  10:40 AM
Posted by VDesai:

I think sometimes Q plays lazy and falls in love with the 3. He just sort of camps out there.

could be that he is trying to spread the floor for his 2 big men. It's a chicken and egg thing. Q is a power guard.... should he post up or let Curry Zbo get the ball in the post.

Ball movement is not there. Cutting is not there. Pick and roll doesn't even exist.
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11/21/2007  10:41 AM
and he is the one who always guards the tough 2/3.
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11/21/2007  10:44 AM
Whoever thinks or thought Q is good obviously needs their mind examined.

I never liked him. He's a waste of a good NBA body.

Quinten Chuckerson.
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11/21/2007  10:44 AM
I feel like last year he was more active last year scoring closer to the basket, but you're right that maybe he's being asked not to because they've got 2 post guys.

He's missed his last dozen or so 3 pointers though.
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11/21/2007  10:48 AM
Posted by VDesai:

I think sometimes Q plays lazy and falls in love with the 3. He just sort of camps out there.

You have Curry and Zach in the post. Two big men that dont' pass
You have Marbs and craw penetrating and playing one on one
With this roster we should have at least 1 or 2 guys on the perimter to spread the offense.
What else is Q supposed to do?
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martin
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11/21/2007  10:55 AM
Posted by VDesai:

I feel like last year he was more active last year scoring closer to the basket, but you're right that maybe he's being asked not to because they've got 2 post guys.

He's missed his last dozen or so 3 pointers though.

remember when Ricky Davis landed on his elbow? Still bad is my guess. Not that he was ever a pure shooter.

Q is also coming off of back surgery. That takes time.
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11/21/2007  10:57 AM
I think on a normal team Q would be lambasted for his poor performance. Its sort of sad that we have to laud him here cause he's one of the few players giving a good effort.
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11/21/2007  10:57 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by VDesai:

I think sometimes Q plays lazy and falls in love with the 3. He just sort of camps out there.

could be that he is trying to spread the floor for his 2 big men. It's a chicken and egg thing. Q is a power guard.... should he post up or let Curry Zbo get the ball in the post.

Ball movement is not there. Cutting is not there. Pick and roll doesn't even exist.

This is what has been bugging me. If you look at the times this team has been successful, it has been the games where we got full team involvement in the offense. Guys are moving and cutting and the team is passing the ball quickly and decisively. Now due to what I believe is Isiah panicking, the team has slowed everything down so much and oversimplified the offense and it can't work like that. There's no deception and defenses have no problems clogging up the paint and making it impossible to score inside. We need to get back to the guards attacking, guys setting picks and guys moving. make the defense work. Many have said this before, but don't always make Curry the primary. Let him and even Zach and Lee, get some easy looks off of guard penetration. Drive and dish, pick and rolls, give and go... it's not that hard. I blame this on Isiah, cuz these players are more than capable of doing these things, but they're obviously being told to focus on only one thing and so we've lost all the continuity and flow to the offense.

in the 1st 3 games you saw the higher FG% and the higher Assists. That wasn't a fluke that was the team playing to it's strengths. I don't know what we've been doing recently, but it's not the offense that we expected to see or that we MUST play to succeed.

OH YEAH I almost forgot. PLAY CHANDLER OVER Q!!!! We've seen what Q can do, how about giving the kid a long look?

[Edited by - nixluva on 11-21-2007 10:58 AM]
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11/21/2007  10:58 AM
Q is doing what he is being asked to do. He cannot continuously post up when ZBo and Eddy are in the post. He is needed to camp out at the 3 for spacing. Martin is right about Q guarding the best perimeter player of the team.

Q is not the problem. Dinglebury is the problem.
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11/21/2007  11:03 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by martin:
Posted by VDesai:

I think sometimes Q plays lazy and falls in love with the 3. He just sort of camps out there.

could be that he is trying to spread the floor for his 2 big men. It's a chicken and egg thing. Q is a power guard.... should he post up or let Curry Zbo get the ball in the post.

Ball movement is not there. Cutting is not there. Pick and roll doesn't even exist.

This is what has been bugging me. If you look at the times this team has been successful, it has been the games where we got full team involvement in the offense. Guys are moving and cutting and the team is passing the ball quickly and decisively. Now due to what I believe is Isiah panicking, the team has slowed everything down so much and oversimplified the offense and it can't work like that. There's no deception and defenses have no problems clogging up the paint and making it impossible to score inside. We need to get back to the guards attacking, guys setting picks and guys moving. make the defense work. Many have said this before, but don't always make Curry the primary. Let him and even Zach and Lee, get some easy looks off of guard penetration. Drive and dish, pick and rolls, give and go... it's not that hard. I blame this on Isiah, cuz these players are more than capable of doing these things, but they're obviously being told to focus on only one thing and so we've lost all the continuity and flow to the offense.

in the 1st 3 games you saw the higher FG% and the higher Assists. That wasn't a fluke that was the team playing to it's strengths. I don't know what we've been doing recently, but it's not the offense that we expected to see or that we MUST play to succeed.

OH YEAH I almost forgot. PLAY CHANDLER OVER Q!!!! We've seen what Q can do, how about giving the kid a long look?

[Edited by - nixluva on 11-21-2007 10:58 AM]

It's because the guards don't know how to run a team, can't run the team and don't know how to kick-start the offense. The ball is in Marbury and Crawford's hands and those 2 keep ****ing up.
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11/21/2007  11:09 AM
When healthy QRich was one of our best two way players if not our best player hands down. Problem is he's never healthy. Yet another gamble gone wrong. Sad, really, because he is a good player and he is a leader. He just can't produce and can't stay healthy so he's yet another player that we need to part ways with.

Fire Isiah, tear it down. It's the only way out of this pit.
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