Bruised, but not broken? I don't want to be hear if Isiah isn't my coach?

I'm sorry but it's becoming more clear every game this guy just isn't a good player. Turnovers, a lack of hustle an inability to do anything, all while players like Gay, Roye and Aldridge are blossoming into stars, and thats not to mention this year's pick.

Three rebounds and the only ones he pulled down came right to him. Biedrins that hard to score on? Bynum is developing into a defensive force blocking 4 shots getting double figure rebounds, he's in shape and doesn't have man breasts.

The real problem with this team isn't Marbury it's guys like Zach, Eddy and Jamal the open door defense policy, the turnovers, just the lack of passion is disgraceful.

Mentally weak Eddy is and has always been, it's a lot of fun to watch a game when he gets beat in trasition just like his counterpart.

I heard a lot of bull**** at the start of the season, give it time you haven't seen them play, your a hater, blah blah blah.

Here we are the second worst record in the NBA, a team that quit on the coach gets blown out at home by a team not making the playoffs, a frontcourt that doesn't average 1blk a game, complains all night long and now mr. bereavment leave is upset at the fan's.

It shouldn't be this easy, have a trust fund and a drinking problem and you get to ruin the franchise, run it into the ground and effect so many people. Isiah, Crawford, Zach, Curry need to be shipped out of town, followed by Marbury when his contract ends and Steve Mills.

We would be turning the corner with our two lottery picks but instead we are headed towards the lottery again we'll win enough games to get the 7th pick and pine for the days of Scott Layden are you kidding me? He had the worst bunch of athletic talent in the nba and they still won more games 37 than isiah has won the past three seasons.

There is no future and no ceiling, it's time to sit these guys on the bench, let's face it we are losing anyway and play, balkman, lee, chandler, nate and collins the entire game. And you know what the players won't care because there here for their checks.

Eddy probably was the worst trade in the history of the franchise. I'd put Marbury 2nd, though and Zach a bit lower. We gave up more for Marbury than for Zach. Zach has no trade value. The next GM should just buy out his contract.

I think Curry and Zbo could do good with another coach whereas, stupidbury is a certified team killer.

Yeah, I'm still not sold that this duo can be successful togehter in the NBA. We have to have at least one interior defender at these two spots to be good. Two probably gets you to the championship level.

In six years of Eddy Curry he's always done one thing well: Score the ball near the rim. He has never done anything else well for any stretch of time and has never improved in any areas. He won't improve any more. What you see in Eddy Curry is what you will always get. Right now I also think he might be in the worst shape of his Knick career. Sadly, a well documented fact at that, is he gains weight as the season progresses. He's going to be a balloon come March.

Now, in regards to Zach. You look at his stats and you're in awe. You watch a few minutes of him when he's got it going and you think you've got a star. You watch an entire game and you want to feed him into a woodchipper.

We got hosed. He is a glorified Mo Taylor. He's already barking at teammates and pointing fingers at the Knicks crowd for booing last night. He is a cancer. He is a clown. The next GM of the Knicks ought to find out what Western teams wanted him from Portland and make the deal. This guy is terrible.

We're really a mess, fellas, from Marbury to Crawford to Curry to Randolph to Isiah we are in bad bad shape. We might rebound some, might win some games, but I'm wondering if this team would ever be any better than a 30-something win team. This year or the next.

Worse is no one extra trade will change the makeup of this team. Crawford will still shoot poorly. Curry and Zach will still stink at defense. Basically every player's faults will remain the same no matter who you bring in next.

We should have bought out Francis. We better buy out Marbury instead of repeating the same mistakes.

Fire Isiah, Send Marbury Home. Next guy needs to move Curry, Crawford, Zach.

Let's get going..........cause this isn't going anywhere.

Curry is what he's always been. A very flawed player and not worth nearly what we gave up to get him. Much like every other player on the roster.

Isiah has set this franchise back at least 10 years. But there are still those that believe that NY would never accept rebuilding, because what they have now is supposedly much more palatable. Knicks fans have patience for this garbage but a group of exciting young players with high ceilings would never be acceptable. Right.

the difference between zach and eddy is that zach actually likes basketball.

i was isolating on eddy during the game yesterday - he make NO effort to help on defense. he sees a man cutting right in front of him and he doesn't step up, he just watches the guy go right to the rim. just terrible.

and zach is slowly looking like a guy that's really all about him getting his shot off.

this is an aboslute mess.

Posted by djsunyc:

the difference between zach and eddy is that zach actually likes basketball.

i was isolating on eddy during the game yesterday - he make NO effort to help on defense. he sees a man cutting right in front of him and he doesn't step up, he just watches the guy go right to the rim. just terrible.

and zach is slowly looking like a guy that's really all about him getting his shot off.

this is an aboslute mess.

Whenever an opposing player goes straight to the basket for an uncontested layup, I always think that Curry must have been caught on the perimeter. But then the replay inevitably shows Curry standing 3 feet away from the basket just letting the player go to the rim and never leaving his feet or raising his arms.

The guy doesn't care about basketball. He cares about getting paid.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Eddy probably was the worst trade in the history of the franchise. I'd put Marbury 2nd, though and Zach a bit lower. We gave up more for Marbury than for Zach. Zach has no trade value. The next GM should just buy out his contract.

the Antonio McKnee for Marcus Camby trade says hi.

Good point. That's definitely up there although it's still behind the Curry trade because we gave up only one lottery pick for McDyess.

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Eddy probably was the worst trade in the history of the franchise. I'd put Marbury 2nd, though and Zach a bit lower. We gave up more for Marbury than for Zach. Zach has no trade value. The next GM should just buy out his contract.

the Antonio McKnee for Marcus Camby trade says hi.

Good point. That's definitely up there although it's still behind the Curry trade because we gave up only one lottery pick for McDyess.

And Marcus Camby who is still tearing up the league. So basically, we gave up the 8th pick and an Allstar/defemsive player of the year center for Mcdyess who had zero impact on this team. We gave up the second pick and swaped another for Curry. We didn't give up any allstars or a player that can impact the game like Camby, for Curry.



[Edited by - bigbeast on 22-11-2007 09:12 AM]

I'd take Roy, Aldridge, or Rudy Gay over Camby for a *rebuilding* team. (And that refers to available players regarding only one of the four draft picks we gave up for Curry.) But the McDyess trade is close to the Curry trade in the severity of catastrophe; I'll give you that.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-22-2007 09:28 AM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Eddy probably was the worst trade in the history of the franchise. I'd put Marbury 2nd, though and Zach a bit lower. We gave up more for Marbury than for Zach. Zach has no trade value. The next GM should just buy out his contract.

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