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arkrud
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11/17/2007  10:14 PM
Rangers in the sole lead in division.
Winning 5 in a row, 9 of 10.
With the best defense in NHL.
Today all goals against Crosby and Pens scored by defensmens.

Same owner - different stories.

And Isles - Islenders SUCK

[Edited by - arkrud on 11-17-2007 10:14 PM]
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11/17/2007  10:18 PM
The only reason the Rangers are ahead of the Isles is because they've played 4 more games.

The Rags are 0-2 against the Isles this year and it'll be 0-3 after Monday.
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11/17/2007  10:22 PM
the hard salary cap did it- I'd like to think Dolan could get the right person and see similar results with the knicks...
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11/17/2007  10:22 PM
The only reason the Rangers are good is because the Rangers took advantage of a clause in the CBA a few years back that allowed them to release big contracts off their cap for free. And then, fr some unknown reason, Dolan accepted rebuilding. Yes, he doesn't accept rebuilding with the Knicks.

Anyway, they rebuilt and lost for a year but soon were starting to build a foundation and today have one of the best teams in hockey. But, they also have a smart GM in Glen Sather(even though he was there for all the Rangers failures before that) who won Stanley Cup titles with the Oilers.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
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11/17/2007  10:25 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

The only reason the Rangers are good is because the Rangers took advantage of a clause in the CBA a few years back that allowed them to release big contracts off their cap for free. And then, fr some unknown reason, Dolan accepted rebuilding. Yes, he doesn't accept rebuilding with the Knicks.

Anyway, they rebuilt and lost for a year but soon were starting to build a foundation and today have one of the best teams in hockey. But, they also have a smart GM in Glen Sather(even though he was there for all the Rangers failures before that) who won Stanley Cup titles with the Oilers.

yea, but that clause was not exclusive to the rangers, every team benefited, and the rangers are leading their division...
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11/17/2007  10:29 PM
Ok? Every team benefited but the Rangers benefited the most since they were bad contract heaven.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
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11/17/2007  11:35 PM
What is the problem to go with hard cap in NBA?
Too much mobsters inwolved?
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11/17/2007  11:37 PM
Posted by islesfan:

The only reason the Rangers are ahead of the Isles is because they've played 4 more games.

The Rags are 0-2 against the Isles this year and it'll be 0-3 after Monday.

I know Isles have Rangers number. And after 9 of 10 Rangers due...
But will see... it can go eather way...


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11/19/2007  9:31 PM
Islanders 2 - Rags 1

Isles 3-0 vs Dolan's overrated hockey team this year.

Oh and arkrud - Rangers SUCK!
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11/19/2007  9:32 PM
sather is probably the reason isiah is still around. it shows dolan that patience, even for 7+ years, will eventually pay off.
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11/19/2007  9:38 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Islanders 2 - Rags 1

Isles 3-0 vs Dolan's overrated hockey team this year.

Oh and arkrud - Rangers SUCK!

Ha...
I told you we are due to lose.
And yes - Isles have our number.
But againg will see by play-off time...
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11/19/2007  9:41 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by islesfan:

Islanders 2 - Rags 1

Isles 3-0 vs Dolan's overrated hockey team this year.

Oh and arkrud - Rangers SUCK!

Ha...
I told you we are due to lose.
And yes - Isles have our number.
But againg will see by play-off time...

First bottle of vodka is on me tonight ark.

[Edited by - islesfan on 11-19-2007 9:42 PM]
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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11/19/2007  10:05 PM
Posted by arkrud:

Rangers in the sole lead in division.
Winning 5 in a row, 9 of 10.
With the best defense in NHL.
Today all goals against Crosby and Pens scored by defensmens.

Same owner - different stories.

And Isles - Islenders SUCK

[Edited by - arkrud on 11-17-2007 10:14 PM]

It is strange isn't it? Layden, a dope and Isiah a controversial figure. I suppose Dolan tried and both failed. Maybe he'll get it right the next time.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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11/19/2007  10:07 PM
Posted by arkrud:

What is the problem to go with hard cap in NBA?
Too much mobsters inwolved?

Mobsters? Now that's an interesting point. Hmmm. Could someone be making money 'against' the Knicks?
I'll never trust this' team again.
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11/19/2007  11:34 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by arkrud:

What is the problem to go with hard cap in NBA?
Too much mobsters inwolved?

Mobsters? Now that's an interesting point. Hmmm. Could someone be making money 'against' the Knicks?

Why not?
Isiah is THE ULTIMATE GAMBLER.
And we know about a couple of refs from the area and Marbs has some stuff on Isiah which makes him almost piss his pants.
Playa where are you - we need to spin this more!!!


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arkrud
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11/19/2007  11:35 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by islesfan:

Islanders 2 - Rags 1

Isles 3-0 vs Dolan's overrated hockey team this year.

Oh and arkrud - Rangers SUCK!

Ha...
I told you we are due to lose.
And yes - Isles have our number.
But againg will see by play-off time...

First bottle of vodka is on me tonight ark.

[Edited by - islesfan on 11-19-2007 9:42 PM]

I hope we can meet at the Garden for Rangers - Isles series.
This will be something... UNBELIVABLE!!!




[Edited by - arkrud on 11-19-2007 11:36 PM]
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11/20/2007  8:36 AM
Not a hockey fan, but wasn't the strike the big reason the Rangers were able to finally become good? During the strike time, they were forced into a situation where they couldn't unnecessarily add more big free agent contracts and so were then in a situation where they were able to unload a bunch of vets for a ton of draft picks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was how it went down.

If the NBA had a two year strike, maybe the Knicks management and owner would consider the same.

[Edited by - Solace on Nov 20 2007 08:52 AM]
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arkrud
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11/20/2007  11:09 AM
Posted by Solace:

Not a hockey fan, but wasn't the strike the big reason the Rangers were able to finally become good? During the strike time, they were forced into a situation where they couldn't unnecessarily add more big free agent contracts and so were then in a situation where they were able to unload a bunch of vets for a ton of draft picks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was how it went down.

If the NBA had a two year strike, maybe the Knicks management and owner would consider the same.

[Edited by - Solace on Nov 20 2007 08:52 AM]

This was definitely helpful but the main change came in attitude and direction.
Rangers not only draft good projects but created base to develop them.
They also get players with good attitude, leadership, and hard working mentality.
They get coach with character and sense of direction.
They made a huge shift in public relations to reverse the perception to the team with media and fans.

Their cap situation is excellent.
They have only 2 players with long expensive contracts and both are huge trade assets.
After next year this 2 are the ONLY players on contract.
http://www.outsidethegarden.com/salaries.asp
Is it amazing?






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