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King1
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11/17/2007  5:01 PM
I get upset that the Knicks bring in non character guys, overpay players and trade away draft picks. We have no leader and a bunch of selfish players. We have losers on this team, and no one really cares about winning, just about their stats. No more judging this team until this regime changes because the enviroment we are win you cant win. If we can get these 5 things to happen we have a chance to be all right.
1. Get a reputable coach and GM
2. Buyout Marbury cut all ties
3. Draft Eric Gorden next year
4. Trade a big man for a 2/3 that is a character guy and can play the game.
5. Bring in winners not individual players.
Get three or four players off the books and draft smart and maybe by 2009 will can have a respectable team.
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11/17/2007  5:19 PM
Sounds about right to me, King.
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11/17/2007  5:33 PM
King, what do you think of Derrick Rose? I was at the Coaches vs. Cancer last night and I had known about Rose and seen him play on TV, but watching him in person left me amazed. He is so friggen fast, he can shoot he plays good defense, there is nothing that is freshman about him. He's already a leader on that team too. You like Gordon over him?

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-17-2007 5:34 PM]
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11/17/2007  6:28 PM
From what I can gather we really only have one selfish player and that's Steph. He put himself before the team. Zach may be a blackhole at times, but he's out there giving his all and trying to help the team win. I don't agree that the team has a bunch of guys who are only interested in their stats.

If the team is losing due to a lack of leadership on the floor, which is what I perceive is part of the problem, then I believe we can look at that and not paint the entire team in a negative sense. I see players out there trying to win. They didn't tank any of these games. They've fought to the end in these games.

We all want to get more good young players like Rose or Gordon, but I want to add them to the young talent we have now. Don't let one bad roadtrip cloud your judgement with regard to the talent we have and what it could do when we get things straightened out.

Look at how the team has been playing lately. We haven't seen the team fall behind by big margins early in games and they've been in these games at the end with a chance to win. As we get healthy and adjust to the change in rotation I think this team will emerge from this and start to play better.
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11/17/2007  6:55 PM
I love Derrick Rose also but I think Gorden is a better shooter and we need some guys that can flat out shoot the ball. I would be dancing with either one of these guys.
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11/17/2007  6:56 PM
Nix Steph quit the team and was voted out then you're leader took him back with open arms. How can you spin that?
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11/17/2007  7:02 PM
this wasn't much of an apology.

try harder.
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11/17/2007  8:30 PM
Posted by King1:

Nix Steph quit the team and was voted out then you're leader took him back with open arms. How can you spin that?

Why would I spin any of that? I haven't said anything that would suggest that it was a good move. In fact I said the opposite, that has nothing to do with the roster as I see it.

People are attacking the entire team when I think there are some good players on this roster. We all know Steph's contract is running out. People want everything to happen all at once. I want to see what Mardy has in him. If he's not the future then we can focus on a PG this draft, which is what I expected to do anyway. We all know that was the next logical move. That and a SG. This is why I wasn't happy that we let Nichols go. Not that he was a lock to be our future SG, but who knows.

I like what we have in Chan and Balk at SF. I like what we have at PF/C with Zach, Curry, Lee, Jared and Morris. I like Mardy and Nate, but i'm not yet convinced they're the answer either. Jamal is Jamal. I think he's got so much talent, but we'll have to see how he plays the rest of the way. Will he be able to give us what we need at SG? That's a decent roster and we're realy only looking to make improvements at our Guard positions. The team has some upside and enough youth for a good run, provided we can make the needed improvements. I don't see a need to completely blow it up.
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11/17/2007  8:56 PM
Posted by King1:

I get upset that the Knicks bring in non character guys, overpay players and trade away draft picks. We have no leader and a bunch of selfish players. We have losers on this team, and no one really cares about winning, just about their stats. No more judging this team until this regime changes because the enviroment we are win you cant win. If we can get these 5 things to happen we have a chance to be all right.
1. Get a reputable coach and GM
2. Buyout Marbury cut all ties
3. Draft Eric Gorden next year
4. Trade a big man for a 2/3 that is a character guy and can play the game.
5. Bring in winners not individual players.
Get three or four players off the books and draft smart and maybe by 2009 will can have a respectable team.

And yet still be run by the same owners with the same philosophy while hiring the wrong people for the organization over and over. Right.

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11/17/2007  9:17 PM
Apology for?
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11/18/2007  12:17 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by King1:

Nix Steph quit the team and was voted out then you're leader took him back with open arms. How can you spin that?

Why would I spin any of that? I haven't said anything that would suggest that it was a good move. In fact I said the opposite, that has nothing to do with the roster as I see it.

People are attacking the entire team when I think there are some good players on this roster. We all know Steph's contract is running out. People want everything to happen all at once. I want to see what Mardy has in him. If he's not the future then we can focus on a PG this draft, which is what I expected to do anyway. We all know that was the next logical move. That and a SG. This is why I wasn't happy that we let Nichols go. Not that he was a lock to be our future SG, but who knows.

I like what we have in Chan and Balk at SF. I like what we have at PF/C with Zach, Curry, Lee, Jared and Morris. I like Mardy and Nate, but i'm not yet convinced they're the answer either. Jamal is Jamal. I think he's got so much talent, but we'll have to see how he plays the rest of the way. Will he be able to give us what we need at SG? That's a decent roster and we're realy only looking to make improvements at our Guard positions. The team has some upside and enough youth for a good run, provided we can make the needed improvements. I don't see a need to completely blow it up.

No need to blow it up.
Just get read of Isiah, Marbs, Eddy, Craf, Q, Jefffries, and Jerom
Zack can stay or he can go - not too much of a deal. same for malik

all other guys can stay.... So it is not blow-up. It is restructuring.
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