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EnySpree
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11/10/2007  12:18 PM
Wha?

Starphuchin at its finest.

Tejada is a nasty hitter and fielder. Tori just won a gold glove. Santana might be the best pitcher in baseball.

Should the yanks reload with these guys?

If melky goes to the twins in a trade for santana then tori hunter would be a nice alternative for melky at center......then again that's what they yanks hoped johnny damon would do at similiar ages.

Tejada seems like a pipe dream.....but his bat along with hunter makes the yanks seem better.....on paper. They can play small ball. The vets would be in place for another run.....

Make any sense to anybody?
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11/10/2007  12:34 PM
Don't give up our young pitchers for position players. Otherwise, I'm fine with these guys. Starphucking per se isn't bad. Stars who are hungry for wins, have good locker room personalities, and play their butts off are *great* to have on your team. Starphucking for the kind of guys the Knicks brought in is another story. I do think Tejada is a little overrated but he's still a good player and we're desperate at 3rd base.

Where did you get these rumors from?

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-10-2007 12:39 PM]
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11/10/2007  12:35 PM
However, I think it would be an awful decision to not bring Andy back. He should have never left and should remain a Yankee for life. He had a very good season. Reward him for it. We can't afford to lose him.
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11/10/2007  1:01 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:



Where did you get these rumors from?

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-10-2007 12:39 PM]

The tejada rumor was in fridays daily news and today I read in the post stuff about santana and tori hunter.

Its a pretty easy plan if you ask me.

They say baltimore might take farnsworth and some outfielding prospects for tejada. That's pretty easy to deal with.

Santana would have to include more than that though....like one of the big three pitchers.....

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11/10/2007  1:04 PM
I think the only one that has a hope is the Tejeda deal.
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11/10/2007  1:04 PM
Santana is a no brainer, but I wouldn't sell the farm for him since I believe he will still want to test the market when he becomes a free agent after next year. If they do trade for him, they better lock him up.

Tejada is a nice replacement and I think would be a good pickup since they can probably get him at a reasonable cost since the Orioles want to get rid of him and the $32M they still owe him.

Hunter would be a big addition defensively and he's better offensively than Cabrera. I worry about the miles he's put on his legs in the Metrodome. I think he breaks down a lot sooner because of that. He's 32 now and I can see 3 good years before the injuries start happening. They can move him to a corner OF spot but you're paying the premium because of his defense. I don't think it'll be a Giambi situation but I wouldn't go past 5 years with maybe a club option for a 6th.

Starphuckin yes, but with starting pitching like that and lots of money coming off their payroll within the next year or two, they can afford to spend it. As long as it makes sense. And I think those guys make sense.
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11/10/2007  1:11 PM
Andy is the fag that needs all this time.....yanks didn't push him away.....andy did. If it were up to the yanks, pettite would still be a yank and would have never left.

Baseball is just a game and if he needs to do all this soul searching....maybe he should head to brokeback mountain with roger and sort that **** out.

Yanks don't need him as much as his family. To hell with him. My family needs me too but I got bills and ****.
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11/10/2007  1:12 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Santana is a no brainer, but I wouldn't sell the farm for him since I believe he will still want to test the market when he becomes a free agent after next year. If they do trade for him, they better lock him up.

Tejada is a nice replacement and I think would be a good pickup since they can probably get him at a reasonable cost since the Orioles want to get rid of him and the $32M they still owe him.

Hunter would be a big addition defensively and he's better offensively than Cabrera. I worry about the miles he's put on his legs in the Metrodome. I think he breaks down a lot sooner because of that. He's 32 now and I can see 3 good years before the injuries start happening. They can move him to a corner OF spot but you're paying the premium because of his defense. I don't think it'll be a Giambi situation but I wouldn't go past 5 years with maybe a club option for a 6th.

Starphuckin yes, but with starting pitching like that and lots of money coming off their payroll within the next year or two, they can afford to spend it. As long as it makes sense. And I think those guys make sense.
It's a better use of money than the $242 mil they offered A-Rod!
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11/10/2007  1:24 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by islesfan:

Santana is a no brainer, but I wouldn't sell the farm for him since I believe he will still want to test the market when he becomes a free agent after next year. If they do trade for him, they better lock him up.

Tejada is a nice replacement and I think would be a good pickup since they can probably get him at a reasonable cost since the Orioles want to get rid of him and the $32M they still owe him.

Hunter would be a big addition defensively and he's better offensively than Cabrera. I worry about the miles he's put on his legs in the Metrodome. I think he breaks down a lot sooner because of that. He's 32 now and I can see 3 good years before the injuries start happening. They can move him to a corner OF spot but you're paying the premium because of his defense. I don't think it'll be a Giambi situation but I wouldn't go past 5 years with maybe a club option for a 6th.

Starphuckin yes, but with starting pitching like that and lots of money coming off their payroll within the next year or two, they can afford to spend it. As long as it makes sense. And I think those guys make sense.
It's a better use of money than the $242 mil they offered A-Rod!

Santana, Hunter and Tejada next year for what they paid ARod and Clemens this year.

I wouldn't trade Joba or Hughes for Santana though. I'd feel him out to see if he still wanted to test the free agent market after next year. If he was adamant on it, I'd wait and just throw a truck load of money at him. But if it cost Hughes, I wouldn't trade Joba, so be it. They need a #1 ace and he's the best.
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11/10/2007  2:07 PM
i fear torii is on the fast track to damon-ville. no thanks.

tejada is an a-hole...and wouldn't be shocked if he was linked to the roid stuff. no thanks.

santana is awesome...but the price will be VERY high.
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11/10/2007  3:04 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

i fear torii is on the fast track to damon-ville. no thanks.

tejada is an a-hole...and wouldn't be shocked if he was linked to the roid stuff. no thanks.

santana is awesome...but the price will be VERY high.

Is Tejada really that bad an influence? Why do you have that fear with Tori? I don't follow teams other than the Yankees very closely--that's why I ask.
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11/10/2007  3:43 PM
Damon already had whispers that he was hurt or hurting before the yanks signed him.....not sure if tori hunter is in the same type of situation. He's an awesome outfielder, fresh off a golden glove. He has power and speed on the bases.....but he's 32.....not the same as basketball but 32 is 32....maybe 3-4 years left in the tank.

Yanks lack speed though. What else can the yanks do to improve the ball club? Abreu seems to be the only lock in right field. Melky plays a good center field.....hideki/damon in left seems a little retarded but its still nice depth.

Shelly duncan plays a decent outfield as well.

Damn man, andy phillips is another guy that can play the game but just keeps getting caught with freak injuries.....

What to do man? What to do!?!?
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11/10/2007  3:51 PM
Focus on pitching. We don't need more bats.
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11/10/2007  4:00 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Damon already had whispers that he was hurt or hurting before the yanks signed him.....not sure if tori hunter is in the same type of situation. He's an awesome outfielder, fresh off a golden glove. He has power and speed on the bases.....but he's 32.....not the same as basketball but 32 is 32....maybe 3-4 years left in the tank.

Yanks lack speed though. What else can the yanks do to improve the ball club? Abreu seems to be the only lock in right field. Melky plays a good center field.....hideki/damon in left seems a little retarded but its still nice depth.

Shelly duncan plays a decent outfield as well.

Damn man, andy phillips is another guy that can play the game but just keeps getting caught with freak injuries.....

What to do man? What to do!?!?
Phillips' decent BA is really deceptive because he doesn't draw walks or hit for power (low on base and slugging percentages). The guy should NOT be an every day player. He's a great backup though.
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11/10/2007  4:01 PM
Posted by kam77:

Focus on pitching. We don't need more bats.

They're not mutually exclusive.
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11/10/2007  4:04 PM
Baseball is more fun in the off-season as a yankee fan....dude we are so spoiled its not even funny.
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11/10/2007  10:48 PM
no to Santana. We can sign him next year and keep our young pitchers now. Tell his agent we will give him $160mm. Same with Dan Harren. In two years the contracts of Matsui, Damon, Giambi, Mussina, ARod, Farnsworth, Pavano, Abreu et al will all be off the books (some sooner).

We will have a boat load of money to spend and in 2009 when the new stadium opens I fully expect our starting rotation to be Santana, Harren, Joba, Hughes and Kennedy.

If we have to be patient for a year fine. Let the Sox win again. Its got nothing to do with us.
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11/10/2007  10:49 PM
Tejada can be had for a song and dance... O's want to dump is salary. That moves makes some sense.
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11/11/2007  5:16 AM
no way does Tejada get traded to the Yanks unless we're throwing a couple of very good prospects their way.. think about it, they're a division rival owned by Angelos... do u think he wants to see his star player scorching his team 19 times a season in another uniform unless he gets back some good talent in return? those OF prospects they want will likely include names like Jose Tabata or Austin Jackson, 2 guys in our farm system that are very highly touted... no way do i give those guys up for Tejada, as great a player as he is... if we're going to give up our blue chippers, it has to be for top flight pitching... Johan is the guy i want, & i would easily give up Hughes or Kennedy for him as long as he signed a contract extension... on a 1 year rental, no way.
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11/11/2007  11:36 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3099528
Yankees' young pitchers not available, even for Cabrera

Associated Press

Updated: November 7, 2007, 9:59 PM ET

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Hank Steinbrenner was clear on what the New York Yankees won't do to get Miguel Cabrera.

Miguel Cabrera

Cabrera

"It's pretty obvious which players we're not going to trade," the owner's son said Wednesday, before rattling off the team's most-prized young pitchers. "Chamberlain, Hughes and even Kennedy. Not for a position player."
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