All I have to say is the comments about the knicks future as being the worst in the league is so bogus I had to check the writers. I guarante you from this season on NY will "NEVER" have the "WORST" record in the league. This is a man's league not some bubble gum chewing zit face young buck league. NY will always be at the door even though they are in a "MAJOR" transition, why? Because they have vets who have pride. Some people want Dolan to turn into Peter Pan and use his magic wand and make some fans happy like some i just read. READ MY KEYS IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN YOUR WAY. Chill

Every one has a opinion, this a qoute from my good friend Playa. I read this opinion and i think of all the quality players we have passed on in the draft for a "Quality Veteran" then i think of how most of them were no Quality at all. I also think of how to become a Quality Veteran one day a team has to take a chance and draft you. I think in competition you must look at the best, and become better than that to be the best. like Ric Flair, you got to beat the Man to be the man. If some one asks me who are the top 7 guys in the NBA, I will say, Shaq,Kobe,Duncan,Garnett,Webber,Kidd,Iverson, then maybe dirk,Stephon and Francis. ok that more than 7, out of this list one one guy was drafted a college senior. All these guys were drafted Young what a shocker. Most of these guys are Still young. You need a influxion of youth to win in the NBA, with solid Veterans. but to have a team of just Vets and to pass up draft after draft, shows no vision, creativity or just common sense. basket ball is a young mans game, And after 35 your abilty to competes starts to drop every year, ask Hakeem olajuwon. I also look at top top five team (consensus) this year and next, spurs,lakers,Sac,Net Dallas, A lot Talented young players taken right out the draft, is it a conindence. I wrote a lot my bad,

YOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the knicks will go youth it will only be because we have a top pick in the draft or maybe top 3. We surronded Ewing with scrubs Sparrow, Bannister, Eddie Lee Wilkins etc... Then we were able to draft the Stricklands , Wilkins, M.jackson's of the draft. Until we get the "TOP" pick , dolan will not go with an entire overhall of youth. So understanding the knicks past is understanding the knicks future. Go Knicks

now listen to this proposal. with the 9th pick, there is'nt any guarantee that we will get a player that will help us at all. look at the endless list of top ten player that end up doing nothing ( kendrick brown, sharone wright, etc.). i am not saying to trade our pick by any means but we have to take steps AFTER the pick to get us competitive without relying on two things: our pick and dice coming back. so here is a legitimate proposal.

1.) compensation for jvg- this will probably not be a draft pick but cash that we could use for the free agent pool. houston is a fairly lucrative team and could be willing to do this. they can send money instead of a pick.

2.) draft sweetney- i know. another undersized power forward. he could end up being an elton brand or a danny fortson or worse (spoon?). but he had a remarkable college stat ( 23pts and 11 rebs in college) and the scouts said, besides kaman, he has the best polished moves around the basket. he is a legit post presence who will learn a lot with thomas, spoon and dice showing him the ropes. true he is not athletic and possibly boring but he is effective. elton brand is the same way but i would trade most of my roster to acquire him. i think this kid will be a very good player, possibly an all- star in his career.

3.) get olowakandi- another controversial topic but we have extra money as is for the exception thanks to longley and lj off the books. so we have close to 5 mill. to sign a big man. we can use the cash for van gundy to make it 5 mill. and the kandi man is as good as ours. he is legitimate canter with developing post skills and can intimidate. in the east, he is an all- star. don't let him slip and go to miami. i tell you now, if that happens we will be looking at miami in the playoffs next year. forget nestorovic. he stunk it up in the playoffs and will continue to do so under the pressures of ny. kandiman is our man.

these moves could help our team be eastern conference contenders. in the playoffs, size matters. ask boston and philly. even detroit. look at new jersey. they have the most size in the east and they overpowered them by controlling the boards for their running game to work. they are also the only team that could give the western conference teams problems because of their size.

jazz you make good point but olawikandi, i am not big on him, he has turned out to be a decent player, but he has no heart. plays like he doesn't care. We can win games with him but a championhip, dont think so.

Knicks arent going to get compensation, period. Knicks are doing this because its stupid to hold him for another 2 months. Especially since you dont want to ruin any relationship with other teams because you will be calling with trade proposals later.

Posted by falcindor:

Knicks arent going to get compensation, period. Knicks are doing this because its stupid to hold him for another 2 months. Especially since you dont want to ruin any relationship with other teams because you will be calling with trade proposals later.

I disagree, this is not ruining relationships but running a franchise... Vangundy has value now because teams can't wait the 2 months, there is the draft, camps, Free Agent signings etc, the next 2 months. Those are valuable times and that is the knicks leverage, asking for compensation for what is "Value" is not ruining relationships but looking out for your business first..

under the circumstances i feel the knicks have no choice but to go with younger players at the moment

at some point the knicks need to address their cap situation in a BIG way. maybe they have began to address it...

but proven veteran players, well the good ones are not likely to end up in new york anyway.